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To Trinitarians: The Son is Jehovah Jehovah is our Father Therefore the Son is the Father? It seems the bible never says "O Jehovah, you are our Son", or "O Jehovah, you are our Holy Spirit", or similar... So why is the Trinity [Aka Jehovah] called the Father? Regards

Hi All. As one of Jehovah's witnesses its no secret that we do not think the trinity to be scriptural. The Jews (for the most part) also reject this doctrine.... But my question is, when did the Jews first begin to reject it? Are there any recorded 'rejections' in the scriptures? Or are all the...

Holy Spirit: A Person? Because the Holy Spirit is given personality in the scriptures, does that make it/him a literal person. Speaks (Acts 13:2) Can be grieved (Eph. 4:30) Has a will (1 Cor. 12:11) I say not necessarily, because other inanimate objects are also given personality...

Apologies... I hate long OP's I've tried to condense it as much as possible... The Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4-6) “Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. 5 And you must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your vital force (Mark 12:28-34) Now one of...

From here 679 Hi, I read the above misunderstanding from the 'Trinity = God' thread and wanted to explain the bible's position clearly. (James2:17) Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself. JW's know that the blood of Jesus is what saves and without it we...

So that time of the year is upon us again, the time for families to get together and catch up on the previous years activities. My question is, how does Jehovah feel about this annual celebration, and should we really care what he thinks anyway? Your thoughts..... Richard.

Here is a list of every mention of baptism/baptizing/baptized/baptise in the bible, if there’s any missing then please could you post them and I’ll add them to the list. I’m hoping this list can identify what baptism is, why it is, and when it is, etc. etc. Baptizing (Matthew 28:19) 19...

Hi Everyone, What do you all think about this; Matthew 4:8-9 8 Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, 9 and he said to him: "All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me...

Goodbye to everyone at CF, it’s been an informative experience and I wish you all the best and hope you all grow in the true wisdom of God. With thanks to Lightbearer, True believer, lared and mauwvi for a great time here but all things must come to an end and I especially hope and pray that...

This is a quote from a poorly named thread by Eksesar directed at JW’s; He types this after quoting Watchtower articles totally out-of-context and saying that certain articles suggest stuff that they don’t when read in full. Should this dishonesty be allowed to happen at Christian forums...

Well? I think yes, because if we are aware of our existence then that would lead us to freely question it, we would ask questions like; why are we here, where did we come from, why should we serve the creator etc. etc. However, if we take free will out of the equation then such questions could...

I can't see a Triune God in this Bible book? Am I missing something????????

Welcome all, In my research of the early church I have found that the early Fathers were essentially subordinists, that is, Christ was a lesser person than the Father, which means that they couldn't be Trinitarian doesn't it? For example; Cyprian "That Christ is the First-born, and that He is...