Is the Lord's Day Saturday according to Acts of John (Apocryphal)?

LoveGodsWord said:

Also, none of which is scripture but a teaching of man that is outside of the scriptures that disagrees with what scripture says and you want to follow what he says above Gods' Word? Now where is the scripture that says "the Lords day" is Sunday or the first day of the week? - There is none.

Take Care.

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klutedavid said:

Letter of Barnabas
"and your new moons and sabbaths I cannot endure.” He has therefore abolished these things, that the new law of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is without the yoke of necessity, might have a human oblation(The Epistle of Barnabas 1 Chapter II.—The Jewish sacrifices are now abolished. AD 74)

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Carl Emerson said:

None of what?

What part of what I shared about my walk with Him is unbiblical?

Have you walked in my shoes and know my heart...

By the way I pray for you as well...

I am reminded that when the rich young ruler wanted to justify himself before Jesus - he claimed he had kept the Law. But Jesus dismissed this justification - keeping the Law was not good enough for Jesus...
Perfection comes from following Jesus and keeping His Word not keeping the Law.
So he went away sorrowful.

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klutedavid said:

It's simply strong evidence for the explanation of what the 'Lord's day' actually means. The scripture is not clear on it's usage.

If your correct and the early church was derailed in not observing the law. Then that was a virtually instantaneous event, one week church on Saturday and the next week church on Sunday.

The apostle John and some of the disciples were alive, when these two letters were written. We are talking about the first century when the Gentile Christians were in young churches. And fully aware of what day they gathered every week. In order to celebrate the risen Christ.

The Didache could have been included in the canon of the New Testament, but the authorship is unknown. Much like the letter to the Hebrews.

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klutedavid said:

Actually the rich young ruler departed sadly, because he could not throw away his wealth (commandment against loving mammon). He kept the ten words but unfortunately, you cannot love wealth and God at the same time.

An SDA member will not tell you that, but that is what the text states.

It's the fine print that's the problem.

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LoveGodsWord said:

All I am seeing for your view is the teachings and traditions of men outside of scripture that disagrees with scripture and you want to follow what he says above Gods' Word? Now where is the scripture that says "the Lords day" is Sunday or the first day of the week? - There is none.

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Carl Emerson said:

None of what?

What part of what I shared about my walk with Him is unbiblical?

Have you walked in my shoes and know my heart...

By the way I pray for you as well...

I am reminded that when the rich young ruler wanted to justify himself before Jesus - he claimed he had kept the Law. But Jesus dismissed this justification - keeping the Law was not good enough for Jesus...
Perfection comes from following Jesus and keeping His Word not keeping the Law.
So he went away sorrowful.

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klutedavid said:

Nor is their scripture that states clearly that the Lord's day is a Saturday.

That's the reason for the debate.

There is also the 'day of the Lord', which is certainly not the seventh day.

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LoveGodsWord said:

All I am seeing for your view is the teachings and traditions of men outside of scripture that disagrees with scripture and you want to follow what he says above Gods' Word? Now where is the scripture that says "the Lords day" is Sunday or the first day of the week? - There is none.

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LoveGodsWord said:

Well that is not true...

"The Lords' day" is not Sunday according to the scriptures and never has been.

So what day is "the Lords day" according to the scriptures or Jesus?

Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day.

Well there you have it. According to Jesus he is the Lord of the Sabbath day. That is the Sabbath is "the Lords day from the very words of Jesus. Now who should we believe and follow; God or man? (Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29).

The Greek wording and context for day of the lord is different to "the Lords day" which means in the Greek the day that the Lord claims ownership over.

Take Care

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LoveGodsWord said:

Well that is not true...

"The Lords' day" is not Sunday according to the scriptures and never has been.

So what day is "the Lords day" according to the scriptures or Jesus?

Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day.

Well there you have it. According to Jesus he is the Lord of the Sabbath day. That is the Sabbath is "the Lords day from the very words of Jesus. Now who should we believe and follow; God or man? (Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29).

The Greek wording and context for day of the lord is different to "the Lords day" which means in the Greek the day that the Lord claims ownership over.

Take Care

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LoveGodsWord said:

Well that is not true...

"The Lords' day" is not Sunday according to the scriptures and never has been.

So what day is "the Lords day" according to the scriptures or Jesus?

Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day.

Well there you have it. According to Jesus he is the Lord of the Sabbath day. That is the Sabbath is "the Lords day from the very words of Jesus. Now who should we believe and follow; God or man? (Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29).

The Greek wording and context for day of the lord is different to "the Lords day" which means in the Greek the day that the Lord claims ownership over.

Take Care

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klutedavid said:

Likewise, show me Saturday is the Lord's day.

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klutedavid said:

What is the 'day of the Lord'?
That day is not the Sabbath day.

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LoveGodsWord said:

Don't need to I just showed you that Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath day which is defined in the scriptures as "the seventh day" of the week in post # 248 linked. The Hebrew naming for the days is not the same as our. It was day 1 (Sunday), day 2 (Monday), day 3 (Tuesday), day 4 (Wednesday), day 5 (Thursday), day 6 (preparation before Sabbath; our Friday) and Sabbath (day 7) and their timing for the day was on biblical reckoning (sunset to sunset).

Take Care.

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LoveGodsWord said:

The day of the Lord in the Hebrew scriptures is the second coming.

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klutedavid said:

Are you trying to tell me that the Lord, is only the Lord over one day a week?

What about the other six days?

Is Jesus the Lord of the whole week or not?

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klutedavid said:

Well that's another Lord's day, day of the Lord.

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klutedavid said:

Actually the rich young ruler departed sadly, because he could not throw away his wealth (commandment against loving mammon). He kept the ten words but unfortunately, you cannot love wealth and God at the same time.

An SDA member will not tell you that, but that is what the text states.

It's the fine print that's the problem.

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Carl Emerson said:

Yes I am aware of that - hence I raised it - keeping the Law was not good enough for Jesus. Perfection is to do with the heart.

This illustrates the difference between the Law of sin and death and the Law of the Spirit.

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