Trump Season Finale Poll

CitizenD said:

What happens to Trump?

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When he gets the gunshot wound in his foot fixed he will probably com back.

Nothing until the next government is sworn in. There are still too many of the base under his sway.

If this behavior* isn’t punished, then we can expect MORE.

*President Trump’s Marching Orders speech is up on the web. You can find out. No link because of “swears” by Mister Trump.

Belk said:

Nothing until the next government is sworn in. There are still too many of the base under his sway.

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The over-the-top performance of the White House Reaction to the Insurrection, was...wink, wink; nudge, nudge.

They’re regrouping.

CitizenD said:

What happens to Trump?

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The lizard people beam him back to the mother ship.

Not sure. All that's certain is that he'll no longer be president come Jan 20th.

I was concerned when SCOTUS failed to review and make a ruling on the election issues that there would be violence. If they had ruled that there was nothing wrong with the election, I think most people would have respected that decision. But the situation continued to escalate because Trump supporters felt that they were not receiving justice, I do not think that the vast majority of the people who demonstrated expected it to become violent, there were others however to took advantage of the unrest to make a violent attack, we do not know yet if these were right wing groups or antifa or some other group or maybe even a combination of the above. I believe that the best thing for our nation at this point is to let Trump serve out his term, let things cool down, do a complete investigation into what happened and prosecute those who are truly responsible for the violence, that may include Trump if the evidence indicates that he is responsible, if he is charged and convicted of a felony his political career is over, which would accomplish as much if not more than impeaching him and would avoid the potential for violence. Things are just too unstable right now to go around lighting matches around the gas pumps. Those are my feelings, feel free to go ahead and attack me as usual, I always enjoy the opportunity to defend myself.

Trump caused at least 5 death, by brain washing his supporters, that there was election fraud. And telling them what to do. Trump is a terrorist and murderer. Pence doesn't have the backbone to take things away from a child. So the Democrats will have to do the right thing and impeach Trump.

CitizenD said:

Two words: self-pardon. There is no guarantee that Trump would be subject to charges, and a self-pardon SCOTUS case is also capable of generating great controversy.


Yeah, that seems fair. Things are very unstable.

My only counter to that is that there have to be consequences. We were one 'encounter in a corridor with a congressman' away from a potential murder here, and a few more away from a massacre.

If there aren't *unequivocal* consequences to the enablers that led us here, we are in trouble.

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I think Trump would still have liability for D.C. local prosecution, but then I dropped out of law school, so dont take my word for it.

CitizenD said:

What happens to Trump?

Forgot one:

Trump goes to prison.

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I hope he ends up in prison but he’ll play the rich white card so that’ll never happen in America.

Any votes for "flees the country to Russia/UAE/Saudi Arabia to escape prosecution"?

He'll be impeached by the house, but the senate won't hold a hearing until after he finishes his term. Several senate republicans will vote for his impeachment, but they will not convict. Trump's businesses will collapse as other companies and banks refuse to do business with him. He'll spend the next several years in court.

disciple Clint said:

I was concerned when SCOTUS failed to review and make a ruling on the election issues that there would be violence. If they had ruled that there was nothing wrong with the election, I think most people would have respected that decision.

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There were 60+ court decisions (and multiple recounts) that proved there was nothing wrong with the election. One more wouldn't have made a difference to the rabid, delusional trump supporters.

Indeed, there probably would have been calls to have the Supreme Court judges executed for treason, just as they called for Pence's execution for "betraying" trump. I expect we would have seen a hangman's nooses in front of SCOTUS as well.

MIDutch said:

There were 60+ court decisions (and multiple recounts) that proved there was nothing wrong with the election. One more wouldn't have made a difference to the rabid, delusional trump supporters.

Indeed, there probably would have been calls to have the Supreme Court judges executed for treason, just as they called for Pence's execution for "betraying" trump. I expect we would have seen a hangman's nooses in front of SCOTUS as well.

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Some of those cases were not litigated and there is still the question of some states violating the U.S. Constitution which requires state legislatures to control voting laws, which did not happen, people modified the state laws without action on the part of the legislatures.

It depends on what % of the US population remain die-hard loyalists convinced the election was stolen illegitimately. My rough guess is that it is somewhere around 10% after the capital attack. It seems to me like even with that, the remaining ones are not backing down. They are doubling down.

The % of loyalists would apply to both the civilian and the military population, probably without regard to rank or position.

The 10% number does not matter if it's Joe Soldier deployed in South Korea.
It does matter though if you have 2 armed F-22 pilots overflying the inauguration for security.
There would be a 1 in 10 chance for either of them to be a loyalist and perform an unexpected and unpleasant action. Keep in mind, they would be doing this as 'their patriotic duty'. Loyalists see themselves as patriots.

Also, there will be someone in charge of choosing the pilots to overfly for inauguration security. If that person is a loyalist (1 in 10 chance) then BOTH pilots they choose will be loyalists if the pool is big enough and the chooser is aware of their dispositions. I suspect this is at least part of how the capital security was breached. Not racism, not underestimation, not incompetence. Deliberate guard drop from sympathizers in the position to do so to facilitate the uprising. We saw this from some footage of the security guards - some guards resisted forcefully, but a % of them simply opened doors for the mob.

The potential impact from even a small % of loyalists in the military could be HUGE, depending on their positions. At the worst case, we have 14 Ohio class subs with 24 ICBM nukes each. Each of those subs have a commander and a disposition, loyalist or not.

I'm not sure whether Trump will be impeached or 25th'd. It doesn't matter. He's not going to be at the inauguration...

Could be a very interesting Season Finale.

Biden has an opportunity to tone down the unrest in this nation, build some unity, get a favorable view from Trump supporters (likely the only time that will happen) and build a good starting relationship with the Republicans that he is going to have to work with for the next four years. He could look like a real leader and at least appear to be in charge of his party. He should simply tell the Dems that we are not going to wast time on impeachment, instead we are going to go right to work on getting the financial aid out to people and businesses, we are going to get the vaccine distributed and administered and we are going to work on solving the real problems that have been ignored.