National Reviews Tells Fellow Conservatives - Better Options than Trump

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Trump feels inevitable, but nothing is settled until Republicans actually caucus and vote. They would be well advised to opt for one of the alternatives who are far and away better on the merits, more likely to win in November, and, if elected, more likely to deliver — free from the wild drama of a second Trump term — conservative results.

They’re right, of course.

 

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The National Review used to be a fairly consistent conservative group ….
But over the last 10 years … it has been on a steady decline towards appeasement. No backbone anymore …they have lost their relevancy.
 
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They're right that there's other options. The issue is, it's irrelevant.

The (increasingly few) cooler heads in the Republican Party leadership know that Trump hurts their chances with the majority of voters. The problem is, when the entire host of Republican politicians basically declared full loyalty to him, defending him even after his attempted insurrection, they've completely handed the reins of the Republican voter base over to Trump and his base.

Even now during the Republican Primary debates, the candidates that haven't already dropped out are defending the person they're running against as the greatest president ever who they 100% support. Which is weird, considering the entire point of running presidential candidate is that they think they're a better fit than the guy they're running against. Which they keep having to undermine because if they turn against Trump, the base will eat them alive.

It's the Party of Trump now, and it appears that it will stay that way until Republican voters finally change their tune.
 
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The National Review used to be a fairly consistent conservative group ….
But over the last 10 years … it has been on a steady decline towards appeasement. No backbone anymore …they have lost their relevancy.
By that do you mean they think there are better conservative options than Trump? Or something else as the appeasement I have been seeing has been former solid conservative towards Trump.
 
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The National Review used to be a fairly consistent conservative group ….
But over the last 10 years … it has been on a steady decline towards appeasement. No backbone anymore …they have lost their relevancy.
Are you trying to equate the 45th with “conservative“, (as close as he is, is right-wing populist).
 
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The National Review used to be a fairly consistent conservative group ….
But over the last 10 years … it has been on a steady decline towards appeasement. No backbone anymore …they have lost their relevancy.
The National Review remains conservative. It’s Trump’s camp followers that have swing too far right.

Conservative and “far-right” are not synonymous.
 
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I agree with National Review here, though I should note that National Review has never liked Trump much.
In hindsight they were wise and perceptive. The GOP should have been as well.
 
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They’re right, of course.


Here's what I see, as an actual conservative (not establishment Republican)

First thing, the very first thing I see here, is that anyone who considers themselves "above" others such that they believe it's not just their right, but somehow their responsibility, to TELL those they deem in need of their guidance who we should or should not vote for, is not someone who's 'opinion' (as it is an opinion only) will be listened to.

I personally shut completely off followed by walking away without listening, when the language manages to devolve into "tell"ing me what to do, think, or vote for.

I'm quite certain I'm not alone.

Most actual conservatives are quite happy to discuss our thoughts on these issues and even clearly explain why we, by and large in a general sense, stand behind the various policies and issues at hand, but we absolutely draw the line at being told what to do by a bunch of snobs completely out of touch with reality.

God bless.

Edit to Add:

I personally think Ramaswamy is the best candidate - this is my personal OPINION only.

I agree that Trump is a minefield - however this is due to the unconstitutional actions of the "uniparty"

And I have lately been weighing my primary vote and debating with myself on what to do.

What I am personally most afraid of is to split the vote such that there would be room for the establishment candidate to win the primary.

That and that alone may give a primary vote to Trump instead of Ramaswamy. Conservatives like myself trust Trump because he followed through on policy promises and was a good president despite all opposition - and perhaps since the group of similar thinking conservatives want to vote Trump again then maybe I will too ..

Just so the likes of Haley won't see the oval office. We simply cannot afford to split the vote too much.

But I would love to see Ramaswamy in office someday... I pray he continues on, regardless of how this election season turns out.

^^^ this above begins a lovely discussion - it doesn't tell people what to do.
 
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Here's what I see, as an actual conservative (not establishment Republican)

First thing, the very first thing I see here, is that anyone who considers themselves "above" others such that they believe it's not just their right, but somehow their responsibility, to TELL those they deem in need of their guidance who we should or should not vote for, is not someone who's 'opinion' (as it is an opinion only) will be listened to.

I personally shut completely off followed by walking away without listening, when the language manages to devolve into "tell"ing me what to do, think, or vote for.

I'm quite certain I'm not alone.

Most actual conservatives are quite happy to discuss our thoughts on these issues and even clearly explain why we, by and large in a general sense, stand behind the various policies and issues at hand, but we absolutely draw the line at being told what to do by a bunch of snobs completely out of touch with reality.

God bless.

Edit to Add:

I personally think Ramaswamy is the best candidate - this is my personal OPINION only.

I agree that Trump is a minefield - however this is due to the unconstitutional actions of the "uniparty"

And I have lately been weighing my primary vote and debating with myself on what to do.

What I am personally most afraid of is to split the vote such that there would be room for the establishment candidate to win the primary.

That and that alone may give a primary vote to Trump instead of Ramaswamy. Conservatives like myself trust Trump because he followed through on policy promises and was a good president despite all opposition - and perhaps since the group of similar thinking conservatives want to vote Trump again then maybe I will too ..

Just so the likes of Haley won't see the oval office. We simply cannot afford to split the vote too much.

But I would love to see Ramaswamy in office someday... I pray he continues on, regardless of how this election season turns out.

^^^ this above begins a lovely discussion - it doesn't tell people what to do.
What sane individual (i.e. not blinded by pathological ambition) is going to want to go up against the Trump political juggernaut?

Politics used to “belong” to the horse-racing crowd; it still does, (but in the paddocks, not the grandstands).
This is supposed to be “good”, for some raisin.
 
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