IMO - these events are future just as you believe.
Ezekiel 38&39 predict the destruction of, for want of a better term, Russia and her allies who come against Israel just prior to the Great Tribulation and perhaps just after the rapture of the church.
Those events likely form a catalyst for Israel turning from what is basically a secular state to a nation which worships God in a temple etc.as they did before 70 A.D.
Those events likely form a catalyst for Israel turning from what is basically a secular state to a nation which worships God in a temple etc.as they did before 70 A.D.
The last 3 points take place at the end of the 7 year tribulation which you list as your point number 4.
As I see things - Armageddon and the second coming of the Lord to set up His Kingdom on earth come at the end of the tribulation -
at least 7 years after the events of Ezekiel 38-39.
The reference to Gog and Magog in Revelation 20 refers to the nations of the earth in a general sort of way. Whereas their mention in Ezekiel is more specific as to their identities for the particular battle to take place at that time. IMO - Gog is likely some demonic principality or power rather than a person living on the earth like the leader of Russia.
IMO - the fact that the same name is used in both places causes people to often make the two battles the same battle - which IMO they are not even though they may involve the same Satanic power structure behind the scenes.
That may not be the "walk thru" you keep asking for. But it ought to make my interpretation of events clear to you.
If I turn out to be wrong when I view the events from top side - it won't be the first thing I was wrong about while living here on earth.
Hi His student,
We are almost identical in our view.
Those events likely form a catalyst for Israel turning from what is basically a secular state to a nation which worships God in a temple etc.as they did before 70 A.D.
exactly. Gog/Magog will have that effect on Israel. Currently, we can see the participants lining up. In my other thread about brexit, we can see shades of the EU about to change to get to the ten kings, leaders, form of government and the little horn person. Who will become the prince who shall come following Gog/Magog.
There is an unspecified break between the cleanup (your point number 3) and the beginning of the Tribulation. I don't think the 7 years mentioned in Ezekiel are the Great Tribulation. I think people will have enough on their plates during the Great Tribulation without worrying about cleaning up battle fields.
The 7 years in Daniel 9:27 begin when the prince who shall come confirms the (Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years).
I agree that is not likely to happen the day the prince who shall come arrives in Israrel. There is probably going to be a short interim period. Which if there is - is likely to be the 7 months (Ezekiel 39:4) of cleaning up the land from all the dead bodies.
Which also gives some time for messiah fevor to sweep through Israel following the destruction of all her enemies, and freeing up the temple mount.
My view is that the prince who shall come will be viewed by the Jews as the messiah and anointed the King of Israel - which is actually puts him into the Antichrist role.
Being in that role,he will confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7 year cycle that Moses required of all future leaders of Israel in Deuteronomy 31:9-13.
So the 7 years begin. The first part of the 7 years will not be the Great Tribulation or even tribulation, as Israel and the world will believe they have entered the messianic era.
They are burning the war implements during that time, probably scavenging the fuel, for heat and cooking.
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In the middle part of the 7 years, is when the Great Tribulation begins, after their perceived messiah betrays them and the covenant he confirmed, and the Jews begin to flee into the wilderness, where they will be able to burn the remaining war implements (and the fuel) in the wilderness, while protected from the beast.
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As I see things - Armageddon and the second coming of the Lord to set up His Kingdom on earth come at the end of the tribulation -
at least 7 years after the events of
Ezekiel 38-39.
Well, 7 years at least after the destruction of Gog's army in Ezekiel 39:4-16.
From Ezekiel 39:17-20 is the Armageddon Feast. And Jesus Himself speaking in Ezekiel 39:21, having returned to earth, recounting the past 2000 years of why the house of Israel went into diaspora for transgressing him... from receiving him as their King.
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That may not be the "walk thru" you keep asking for. But it ought to make my interpretation of events clear to you.
Yes, you did a good job.