Saint Peter - Much European talk relies on tradition

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We have Saint Peter spending much of his early ministry in Israel ministering to the Jews. And according to scripture the Apostles handed the gentile church to the Apostle Paul....

But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles). And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision. - Galatians 2:7-9

After that we have l and ll Peter where he declares....

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, - 1 Peter 1:1

Pontus - Due north os Syria
Galatia - Next door to Pontus
Cappadocia - Between Pontus and Syria
Asia - That whole area
Bithynia - North of Galatia

And in 2 Peter he declares, “This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:” Noting the first epistle references Asians.

Paul, writing to the Romans declares, “For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:” - Romans 11:13

I have no scriptural references of Peter ever entering or addressing Europeans.
 
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We have Saint Peter spending much of his early ministry in Israel ministering to the Jews. And according to scripture the Apostles handed the gentile church to the Apostle Paul....

But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles). And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision. - Galatians 2:7-9

After that we have l and ll Peter where he declares....

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, - 1 Peter 1:1

Pontus - Due north os Syria
Galatia - Next door to Pontus
Cappadocia - Between Pontus and Syria
Asia - That whole area
Bithynia - North of Galatia

And in 2 Peter he declares, “This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:” Noting the first epistle references Asians.

Paul, writing to the Romans declares, “For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:” - Romans 11:13

I have no scriptural references of Peter ever entering or addressing Europeans.
I am Peter and on my rocks the Church of Christ Jesus is being built
 
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At the end of First Peter, it says: "She who is at Babylon, who is likewise chosen, sends you greetings, and so does Mark, my son." (1 Peter 5:13). Which might imply that this epistle was written from Rome, or that Peter had spent some time in Rome, as Babylon was a code word for Rome, used that way in other contemporary writings. (For example the Revelation of John, where the fall of Babylon most likely refers to Rome.)
 
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At the end of First Peter, it says: "She who is at Babylon, who is likewise chosen, sends you greetings, and so does Mark, my son." (1 Peter 5:13). Which might imply that this epistle was written from Rome, or that Peter had spent some time in Rome, as Babylon was a code word for Rome, used that way in other contemporary writings. (For example the Revelation of John, where the fall of Babylon most likely refers to Rome.)
Non Christian Jews, who were at times violently opposed to Christians entirely. Refer to Rome as Babylon. But that has never been the Christian usage of the term.

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"Peter preached the Gospel in Pontus, and Galatia, and Cappadocia, and Betania, and Italy, and Asia" (Hippolytus).

1 Peter was written to Christians in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, western Asia Minor & Bithynia...

...with the help of Silas, associated with Antioch (Acts 15:22+).

1 Peter was NOT written to Christians in Italy...

...because there were NO CHRISTIANS IN ITALY...

...because Claudius had expelled all Jews in 49ad and Nero only let them back in 54ad...

IOW, 1 Peter was written to Christians across Asia Minor between 49-54ad when Peter was bishop of Antioch...

...and his focus was on the eastern Mediterranean far from Italy.

"Babylon" is a reference to either literal Babylon in the Middle East? Or to spiritual Babylon, Jerusalem (Revelation 11:8).

"Babylon" Has never been a reference to Rome.


https://taylormarshall.com/2012/01/was-saint-peter-in-rome-or-antioch.html
 
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We have no biblical records of Saint Peter being in Europe. It would of helped had Saint Peter written to a European Church.
And yet we have extra-biblical records. Interesting...
 
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Eh, let him go, he’s on a roll.
Is this what you meant, Saint Peter in Corinth? Would Be consistent with Corinth appealing to authority and advice of Saint Clement.


Peter in Corinth? A Review of the Evidence from 1 Corinthians

Abstract

The claim made by Dionysius of Corinth (Euseb., Hist. Eccl. 2.25.8) that both Peter and Paul had founded the Christian community in Corinth is not supported by Paul’s statements in 1 Corinthians (esp. 1 Cor. 3:6). On the other hand, Paul mentions Peter/Cephas several times in 1 Corinthians (1:12; 3:22; 9:5; 15:5). This has given rise to the question whether Peter might not have come to Corinth at some point during the ‘unknown’ period of his life in the 50s of the first century. This essay weighs the different interpretations of the evidence that have been brought forward during the last century and concludes that a positive answer to the question is more probable. This allows more nuanced insights into the working of Christian local memory that eventually led to Dionysius’ claim.
 
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At the end of First Peter, it says: "She who is at Babylon, who is likewise chosen, sends you greetings, and so does Mark, my son." (1 Peter 5:13). Which might imply that this epistle was written from Rome, or that Peter had spent some time in Rome, as Babylon was a code word for Rome, used that way in other contemporary writings. (For example the Revelation of John, where the fall of Babylon most likely refers to Rome.)

Babylon could actually refer to Jerusalem, especially if one follows a preterist reading of prophecy. The major center of persecution of the early Church was actually Jerusalem, not Rome. Romans barely had any cognizance of Christians at the time, and mostly they were considered a strange but harmless cult. The worst persecutions of Christians actually happened much later, when Christians had grown in size.
 
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Non Christian Jews, who were at times violently opposed to Christians entirely. Refer to Rome as Babylon. But that has never been the Christian usage of the term.

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"Peter preached the Gospel in Pontus, and Galatia, and Cappadocia, and Betania, and Italy, and Asia" (Hippolytus).

1 Peter was written to Christians in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, western Asia Minor & Bithynia...

...with the help of Silas, associated with Antioch (Acts 15:22+).

1 Peter was NOT written to Christians in Italy...

...because there were NO CHRISTIANS IN ITALY...

...because Claudius had expelled all Jews in 49ad and Nero only let them back in 54ad...

IOW, 1 Peter was written to Christians across Asia Minor between 49-54ad when Peter was bishop of Antioch...

...and his focus was on the eastern Mediterranean far from Italy.

"Babylon" is a reference to either literal Babylon in the Middle East? Or to spiritual Babylon, Jerusalem (Revelation 11:8).

"Babylon" Has never been a reference to Rome.


https://taylormarshall.com/2012/01/was-saint-peter-in-rome-or-antioch.html
I think what I wrote is probably not true. To Peter, References one Peter. So 2 Peter which we know was written in 64. Was not written long after one Peter?

Much like the writings of Paul one Thessalonians and 2 Thessalonians were written relatively. Close to each other.

So the reason why one Peter does not reference. Italy is because PETER WAS IN ITALY. He was in Rome and was able to directly deal with any Italian issues himself in person. Whereas he had to write a letter. To circulate in Asia Minor.
 
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Is this what you meant, Saint Peter in Corinth? Would Be consistent with Corinth appealing to authority and advice of Saint Clement.


Peter in Corinth? A Review of the Evidence from 1 Corinthians

Abstract

The claim made by Dionysius of Corinth (Euseb., Hist. Eccl. 2.25.8) that both Peter and Paul had founded the Christian community in Corinth is not supported by Paul’s statements in 1 Corinthians (esp. 1 Cor. 3:6). On the other hand, Paul mentions Peter/Cephas several times in 1 Corinthians (1:12; 3:22; 9:5; 15:5). This has given rise to the question whether Peter might not have come to Corinth at some point during the ‘unknown’ period of his life in the 50s of the first century. This essay weighs the different interpretations of the evidence that have been brought forward during the last century and concludes that a positive answer to the question is more probable. This allows more nuanced insights into the working of Christian local memory that eventually led to Dionysius’ claim.
The extra-scriptural sources I mentioned in my post about St. Peter visiting Europe come from the Early Church Fathers (such as St. Irenaeus), who recorded him visiting, among other places, Rome, where he founded the local church there and became the bishop.
 
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