Matthew 24/Olivet Discourse and Partial Preterists question

LittleLambofJesus said:

Anymore views from Partial Preterists on this? Thanks

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Bible2 said:

It's curious that a partial preterist should say that
because it is partial preterism's stance that the
tribulation of Matthew 24:4-28 and Revelation
chapters 6-18 happened in 70 AD which eviscerates
(just as pre-trib does) the whole raison d'etre of
Matthew 24:4-28 and Revelation chapters 6-18, which
is to warn the Church (Revelation 1:1, 22:16) ahead
of time (Matthew 24:25) what it is going to have to
face so that it won't be deceived (Matthew
24:4b-5,24-25) and won't lose faith (Revelation 13:10,
14:12-13) during the coming tribulation.

Partial preterism (just as pre-trib) would have the
Church completely unprepared for what is coming,
thinking that it won't have to face it at all, because
it already happened in 70 AD (or, in the case of pre-
trib, because the Church will be raptured into the
third heaven before it happens).

But thank God that Jesus has told us beforehand
everything that we need to know (Mark 13:23) in order
to not be deceived and not lose faith during the coming
tribulation, but to endure unto the end of it, knowing
that "immediately" after it Jesus will return and gather
us together to Him (Matthew 24:29-31; cf.
2 Thessalonians 2:1) and destroy the Antichrist
(2 Thessalonians 2:8, Revelation 19:20).

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Thank you for the informative post. I see absolutely no reason to put a 2000yr gap into Matthew 24 unless it is to keep from being "full preterism" with all of it fulfilled in 70ad. It is no different than some viewing a 2000yr gap in Daniel 9.

Do other see a gap in Matt 24 or is it ALL ONE PAROUSIA/Day of the Lord?

Matthew 24:
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He is yet sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples toward-came to Him according to own, saying, `be telling to us! when? shall these be
and what? the sign of Thy ParousiaV <3952>,
and of the full-end<5056>/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age?'

1 Corinthians 15:23
and each in their proper order, a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the Christ’s, in His parousia<3952>, 24 then — the end<5056>,

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for even as the lightning/star-flashes/astraph <796> comes-out from risings, and is appearing till of west, thus shall be the parousia <3952> of the Son of Man;
37
For as even the days of the Noah thus shall be the parousia <3952> of the Son of Man
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and not they know till came the flood and took/lifted all away.
Thus shall be also the parousia <3952> of the Son of Man.

James says it is nigh at hand:

James 5:8
be ye patient!, also stand-fast the hearts of ye,
that the Parousia <3952> of the Lord has-neared <1448>

Peter mentions the End is nigh at hand and that it is also the parousia of the Day of God:

1 Peter 4:7
And of all things the end<5056> hath come nigh<1448>;
be sober-minded, then, and watch unto the prayers,

1 Corinthians 15:23
and each in their proper order, a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the Christ’s, in His parousia<3952>, 24 then — the end<5056>,

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2 Peter 3:12
waiting for and hasting to the parousian <3952> of the day of God, by which the heavens, being on fire, shall be dissolved, and the elements with burning heat shall melt;


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This was posted on another thread and thought is would also be appropriate here:

Erik Nelson said:

I can't justify this position systematically. But I still feel that the beginning of the Olivet discourse clearly refers to a LOCAL event. 70 AD. Whereas. The end of the Olivet discourse. Clearly refers to a GLOBAL cataclysmic event come parable with the biblically global. Noah's flood.

Obviously Jesus uses the exact same language "coming of the son of Man in glory."

Yet most to all of us here seem to sense that we're still talking about 2 different events.

So perhaps there is a way of viewing. seventy AD as a foreshadowing pre figuring "mini second coming" or something like that?

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I have never heard of a "mini second coming" unless you mean after the 1000yr period?

Matthew 24:
3
He is yet sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples toward-came to Him according to own, saying, `be telling to us! when? shall these be
and what? the sign of Thy ParousiaV <3952>,
and of the full-end<5056>/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age?'

1 Peter 4:7
And of all things the end<5056> hath come nigh<1448>;
be sober-minded, then, and watch unto the prayers,

The same word "parousia" is also used concerning the "Day of God":

2 Peter 3:12
waiting for and hasting to the parousian <3952> of the day of God, by which the heavens, being on fire, shall be dissolved, and the elements with burning heat shall melt;

Which is shown in Revelation 16:14 at the battle of Armegeddon [which is in Israel]

Rev 16:14
For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the land and of the whole being-homed to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Some interesting info on "Meggido"

Daily Bible Study - Old Testament Armageddon

The vast plain around Megiddo has long been a place where troops gather, as a staging area, or to pass through, as was the case when Necho, the king of Egypt, sent his army through the area on the way to battle in Mesopotamia (see also The Medes And Chaldees Prophecies).

The English-language rendering of "Megiddo" originated from the Hebrew word, pronounced meg-id-do, which means rendezvous, or place of troops. From that comes the Hebrew term, pronounced har-megiddon, meaning the hill (or mount) of Megiddo, from which we get the English pronunciation "Armageddon."

"Megiddo" is first documented by name in the Holy Scriptures as one of the fortified Canaanite cities taken during the time of Joshua (see Israel In History and Prophecy: Joshua). As shown in the model below that is on exhibit in Israel, Megiddo was a highly-fortified hill-top city.






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