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Yes, you right. Thanks for catching that. May God bless you today.
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Yes, you right. Thanks for catching that. May God bless you today.
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Even OT saints are clothed with His righteousness based on the promise of His salvation of what the Lord would do for us. Isaiah 61:10 talks about this robe of righteousness already. Isaiah is not hoping for this robe, but he speaks as if he can get it now. Again, Daniel 9 talks about the Consumation or the End. His bringing in an everlasting righteousness in Daniel 9 is talking about His set up of the Millennial reign after He destroys this sinful world. One has not brought in an everlasting righteousness if there is still sin in this world. It’s basic logic.
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Thanks for telling me about this.
They must have recently revamped their website.
Try these.
Origin of the Pretrib Rapture Doctrine
Pastor Tim Warner
http://www.4windsfellowships.net/articles/rapture_23.pdf
Pretribulationist Revisionism
(Grant Jeffrey’s revision of early Church Posttrib viewpoints)
http://www.4windsfellowships.net/articles/rapture_22.pdf
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We have to understand that righteousness is two fold. It is not just in Justification with our belief in Jesus as our Savior (believing in His death and resurrection on our behalf) and seeking His forgiveness, but it is in Sancification, too. 1 John 1:7 says if we “walk in the light” (Obey God’s commands as we abide in Him) as Christ is in the light (God the Father), the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin. So it is not just having a belief alone for Christ’s sacrifice to be applied in this life, but is in faithfulness or obedience to the Lord, as well. If not, then we can be ongoing axe murdering rapists and still be saved.
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What you are claiming above is a false doctrine, based on what the Apostle Paul said below.
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
1Co_5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
If you have been "born again" of the Spirit of God, you cannot continue to be an ax murdering rapist.
Show one example of any person in the first century Church who was a murdering rapist, after coming to faith in Christ.
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Well, I don’t believe that way. My point was that a person cannot be an axe murdering rapist and claim to be saved just because they have a belief on Jesus. What I was getting at is that after we are saved by God’s grace, works and or holiness also play a part in the salvation process. It is why those believers who did not help the poor in this life are cast into everlasting fire (See Matthew 25:31-46). It is why Jesus said if we do not forgive, we will not be forgiven by the Father (Matthew 6:15). It is why John said that if we hate our brother, no eternal life abides within us (1 John 3:15).
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God said this about Job:
“And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8).
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This isn't true. It technically was not a "wall of the ancient Jewish Temple". The remaining wall is the remnant of a platform that the Temple complex was built upon.
This is true.
It's a good thing that those that listened directly to Jesus knew otherwise.Jason0047 said:
The Destruction of the Temple Foretold (is the heading in my Bible for all 3 gospel accounts)
Matthew 24:34 ~ "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Mark 13:30 ~ “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Luke 21:32 ~ “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place."
Quoting this link: https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...rchaeology-places/pella-a-window-on-survival/Mark 13:30 ~ “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Luke 21:32 ~ “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place."
Jesus, while looking over the temple mount in Jerusalem shortly before his death, prophesied that its beautiful stones would be thrown down within a generation. He warned that the residents should flee Jerusalem to the mountains when they saw the Roman armies surrounding the city. Jesus’ admonition is found in each of the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew 24:15–22; Mark 13:14–20; Luke 21:20–24). Perhaps Jesus visited Pella during his visit to the Decapolis (Mark 7:31) and Perea (Matthew 19:1; Mark 10:1), and recalling its secure location, cryptically referred to it in this prophecy. Eusebius’s Church History (3.5.3) recounts that the Jewish followers of Jesus heeded his warning and fled to Pella for safety before Jerusalem’s destruction. Birgil Pixner believes that, after the city’s destruction, they returned to Jerusalem to rebuild their Jewish-Christian synagogue on Mount Zion.*
.....and from this link: http://saintandrewgoc.org/home/2016/9/20/the-apocalypse-in-the-teachings-of-ancient-christianity
Revelation 12:6 "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
By this flight of the woman into the wilderness, many see the flight of Christians from Jerusalem which had been besieged by the Romans at the time of the great Jewish War, 66-70 A.D. Then people fled into Pella and the desert beyond the Jordan. This indeed lasted for three and a half years. By this wilderness one may see also that wilderness where the first Christians saved themselves from the persecutors, and also that wilderness in which the holy ascetics saved themselves from the nets of the devil. It is not improbable also that the literal wilderness, as it did before for the martyrs, will save those who flee from the attacks of the apostate and false Christ into mountains, caves, and holes of the earth. The three and one-half years, signified by the twelve hundred sixty days, is the time for the course of which the apostasy will reign.
The people of the Church in Jerusalem were commanded by an oracle given by revelation before the war to those in the city who were worthy of it to depart and dwell in one of the cities of Perea which they called Pella. To it those who believed on Christ traveled from Jerusalem, so that when holy men had altogether deserted the royal capital of the Jews and the whole land of Judaea…"
— Eusebius, Church History 3, 5, 3
— Eusebius, Church History 3, 5, 3
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If you are born again, you will flee from sin and treat it as poison.
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Um. No. While sin may take place, it will not be common place. The Millennium will be a time of righteousness because Jesus is directly ruling and sin and Satan are not ruling upon the Earth (like it does today in our world).
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God brought His righteousness into the chaos. We have the choice to "choose life" as the "kingdom of God is in your midst" (Luke 17:21)Jason0047 said:
http://www.thattheworldmayknow.com/176
ETA: Quoting from Jay Guin (a review of N.T. Wright's book titled, How God Became King )
God’s people are rescued, not to fly off to another dimension, but to be enthroned. There are, in Daniel 7, “thrones.” One is for the Ancient of Days and another is for the Son of Man — which is both the Messiah and the saints, as he is a representative of the saints.
Jesus suffered and died in order to establish a theocracy — but a different kind of theocracy in which the king is a servant.
God himself will come to the place of pain and horror, of suffering and even death, so that somehow he can take it upon himself and thereby set up his new style theocracy at last. The evangelists tell the story of Jesus in such a way that this combination of Israel’s vocation and the divine purpose come together perfectly into one. This, I suggest, is the reality behind the later abstractions of “humanity” and “divinity.” The humanity is the humanity of Israel, the divinity is the divinity of Israel’s God. ~https://oneinjesus.info/2012/06/how-god-became-king-part-1/
Jesus suffered and died in order to establish a theocracy — but a different kind of theocracy in which the king is a servant.
God himself will come to the place of pain and horror, of suffering and even death, so that somehow he can take it upon himself and thereby set up his new style theocracy at last. The evangelists tell the story of Jesus in such a way that this combination of Israel’s vocation and the divine purpose come together perfectly into one. This, I suggest, is the reality behind the later abstractions of “humanity” and “divinity.” The humanity is the humanity of Israel, the divinity is the divinity of Israel’s God. ~https://oneinjesus.info/2012/06/how-god-became-king-part-1/
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The cited verses confirm unequivocally that Christ's sacrifice has brought everlasting righteousness, bestowed on all who will turn to Him in faith and obedience.
It, and all of the other related accomplishments found in Daniel 9:24-27, have been realized and fulfilled by Christ's perfect and completed sacrifice at Calvary.
To deny their completed fulfillment is to deny that Christ fulfilled and completed what He came to do.
Sadly, such denial is an integral part of dispensationalism's pseudogospel.
But He declares otherwise.
Luke 24
25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Does Daniel's prophecy qualify as among "all that the prophets have spoken"?
Does it qualify as among "all things must be fulfilled" in the prophets?
The answers are self-evident.
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No. A believer can still sin and they are in a world that is ruled by sin. So, I disagree, my friend. Also, not all prophecy has been fulfilled. The OT verses on the 2nd coming is just one of several examples. The Millennium is another.
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You are making progress, but do not confuse our part in the salvation process, which none, with the fruit that we produce because we are saved.
If lava is flowing out of a volcano and a person digs up a small tree in its path and transplants to a new location, then the tree had nothing to do with it being saved from the burning lava.
However, that tree now has an opportunity to produce fruit, because it was saved.
If trees could talk, the tree should tell the story about the one who saved it from the fire...
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Well, if a person produces fruit because they are saved, then fruit obviously deals with the salvaton process (Unless you believe a person can live out their faith with no fruit and they can sin and still be saved). Just as lava is a part of a volcano, you cannot separate works from faith. James says faith without works is dead (James 2:17). I mean, I get it. I used to believe that works did not play a part in our salvation at one time, too. I understand why people believe in such a belief. But after being honest with myself when I read many verses in the Bible, I could not in good conscience believe that way anymore and also serve the Lord. For it would be living a lie (if I denied certain portions in Scripture). Jesus did not say that not helping the poor was optional in regards to our salvation. He said those who did not help the poor in this life will be cast into everlasting fire. A few verses above the sheeps and goats we read about how the unprofitable servant was cast into outer darkness. The person who did what was right with the Lord and was fruitful was said, "Well done good and faithful servant, enter thou into the joy of thy Lord." The Lord Jesus did not say, "Good job in just having a belief alone in me as being your Savior and or ignoring sin and or my commands, enter thou into the joy of thy Lord." Jesus says, if you will enter into life, keep the commandments (Matthew 19:17). Jesus actually means what He says here.
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5 "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness" (Jeremiah 23:5-6).
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