Futurist Only Your end times scenario

Douggg · Dec 23, 2015

Briefly, in outline form or chart form - present your end times scenario, start to finish.... Jesus's destroying of the armies and Satan bound in chains, in Revelation 19/20.

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dysert · Dec 23, 2015

Rapture
Antichrist revealed/Start of Tribulation
Seal judgments & start of 2 Witnesses (for 3 1/2 years) & Trumpet judgments 1-4
Antichrist turns against Israel and pursues her, but she's protected for 3 1/2 years; 2 Witnesses killed
Trumpet judgments 5-7 & Bowl judgments 1-7
Second Coming & Battle of Armageddon
satan cast to pit & Antichrist, False Prophet cast to LOF & unsaved killed
Millennium
Battle of Gog and Magog; unsaved killed
Great White Throne judgment & satan, unsaved to LOF
New Heaven, New Earth, New Jerusalem

Details available upon request ;-)

LastSeven · Dec 23, 2015

Jesus establishes his kingdom / Satan bound - done.
First resurrection of believers coming to Christ - ongoing.
Satan loosed.
Second resurrection / rapture / end of the world.
Judgement.
New earth.

ivebeenshown · Dec 23, 2015

The world continues on, mankind grows further apart from the Truth. The earth grows unstable; civilization is on the edge of total collapse as energy production becomes unfeasible and the economy falters on a global scale. Famines and resource wars abound, and faith and love depleting among society, everyone wants a solution. The man of sin offers an apparent solution, which the desperate masses are more than willing to accept. One of the prominent conditions of said solution is to eradicate all religion or belief in any sort of divine being. The solution is a farce however, as mankind cannot save himself from God's creation which is 'turned upside down' and scourging man with plagues, just as God had warned. Sometime just before all mankind would have been deceased, Jesus returns to dissolve this earth and heavens, deliver judgment, and create a new heavens and earth. From then on the mystery will be finished.

dfw69 · Dec 23, 2015

The rapture might happen here?

The false messianic age comes
The temple built
10 kingdoms form
The law established worldwide
Martyrs

The rapture might happen here?

Rise of man of sin
Wars
Famine
Plagues
Martyrs
The wrath of God begins
Trumpet judgements
Image worship
Vail judgements
Armageddon
Return of Jesus
Satan bound
Judgement of nations
Millennium

Satan loose
Gog magog
Fire from heaven
Great white throne judgement
New heaven new earth
New Jerusalem comes down from.heaven

Hazrus · Dec 23, 2015

1. Jesus died on the Cross
2. Jesus resurrected - Death is conquered. The Kingdom of God starts. Christ is reigning in the heavenly realms (Rev 4 and 5). The "millennium" starts.
2. Pentecost - God dwells in us via his Spirit. Partial fulfilment of Joel 2.
3. Christians get persecuted - from AD33 till point 4 below - - - - - The Great Tribulation
4. Millennium ends when Jesus returns:
a. Heavens and earth destroyed
b. All resurrected
c. Satan loosened to accuse the dead
e. Judgement - those in Jesus' book of life are saved, those who aren't go to eternal punishment
f. Satan sent to
5. New heavens and new earth appear. We reign there physically with God in a perfect world forever.

keras · Dec 24, 2015

An End times sequence:

Soon to happen: The great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, a CME sunstrike. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1 It will be the Sixth seal event of cosmic and worldwide effects and the Middle East will be depopulated, cleared and cleansed, Ezekiel 30:1-5 It will be the fulfilment of Psalm 83, Isaiah 2:12-21, 2 Peter 3:7 and Rev. 6:12-17 A small Jewish remnant will survive in Jerusalem. Isaiah 4:3 Many will die around the world: Isaiah 51:6, Jer.9:22, but most will survive and eventually re-establish the infrastructure.

The Seventh seal is ‘about’ a 20 year time gap until the Return of Jesus.

In a short while: Isaiah 29:17, all the holy Land will be regenerated, Ezekiel 36:8, Isaiah 35:1-10 and the Lord’s people, righteous Israel, be they true descendants of Jacob or grafted in, will gather in the new country of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5 They will live in peace and security and 144,000 missionaries are selected from them, to go out to all peoples and proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Revelation 7 & 14, Isaiah 66:19

The rest of the nations will form a One World Government, led by ten Presidents. Daniel 7:24, Revelation 17:12 Before long, three will be taken over and the other seven will confer their power onto another strong leader. Daniel 11:21, Revelation 13:1-8

After a few years: a Northern confederation, led by a person referred to as Gog, will be motivated to attack Beulah – an unprotected land, of great wealth. They will be totally wiped out and it takes seven years to bury them and clean the land. Ezekiel 38 & 39, Joel 2:20

Sometime later, the strong leader of the World Government, will make a seven year treaty with Beulah. Daniel 11:32a This marks the commencement of the seventieth ‘week’ [seven years] of Daniel. There is a 3½ year period of calm and peace in the world. Daniel 9:27

After that: the world dictator comes to Jerusalem in force and declares himself to be god in the new Temple. This starts the Great Tribulation, the trumpet and bowl judgements. The ‘Woman’- righteous Israel: all those who refused to accede to this treaty, Daniel 11:32b are taken to a place of safety for 1260 days. Zechariah 14:2, Revelation 12:14

Then comes the Glorious Return of Jesus: The battle of Armageddon, Jesus destroys the army of the Anti-Christ by the Sword of His Word and chains up Satan.

The regathering of Israel and all those who have kept faithful. Matthew 24:30-31

The 1000 year Millennium reign of King Jesus and His resurrected saints.

The final attack against the holy city and the armies are instantly cremated. Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 16:13-16, Revelation 19:17-21

The Great White Throne judgement, a New Heaven and a New Earth. Daniel 7:9-10, Revelation chapter 21

The 7 years of Daniel, before the Return:

The Treaty signed, peace for 3½ years. | 1260 days |

The Abomination of Desolation placed in the 3rd Temple |

The Great Tribulation, two witnesses, Woman protected. |1260 days |

The Day of Tabernacles, the Return of Jesus | The battle of Armageddon. |

The Marriage supper of the Lamb - 1290 days | 1260 + 30 |

The festival of Lights- Hanukkah – 1335 days | 1260 + 75 |

The Millennium reign of Jesus. | 1000 years
Ref: logostelos.info

tranquil · Dec 25, 2015

Seals represent the pattern of false christs in general, but also and put in another way, specifically the pattern for "decoy antichrists".

Trumpets represent the pattern referring to the man of lawlessness aka Abaddon/ Apollyon. The man of lawlessness is the 'son of perdition' which more accurately translated would be 'son of destruction'/ same root word of Apollyon / 'destroyer'.

The bowls of wrath are poured out onto worshippers of the false christ (Gog, the decoy antichrist) and also the worshippers of Abaddon/ Apollyon after the 1260 days.

Since we know the coming of the lawless one is filled with lying wonders, we know that the events of Seal 6 and Trumpets 1-5 are all designed to make Apollyon appear as the savior of mankind, with all lying wonders (the lying wonders are the 6th Seal and Trumpets 1-5). Trumpet 1 is 'hail and fire' and is the same as Gog's hail and fire upon him in Ezek 39. Abaddon/ Apollyon is destroying Gog, a decoy antichrist.

[Sorry, Keras, the "day of the Lord" (aka the year of recompense Isa 34:8) you refer to is the "day/ year" that Apollyon is revealed to the elect. But he is revealed at the end of his 1260 days also to the non-elect at his destruction. The opening year of the tribulation is the year of Apollyon imitating Jesus.

2 Thess 2:3
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

He is revealed to the elect at the beginning of the tribulation, revealed to the non-elect at the end. The real 'day of the Lord' / year of recompense would occur after or within the last year of the 1260 days.

The locusts of Trumpet 5 are the people of the prince to come (Apollyon/ the man of lawlessness). Trumpet 5 is where the "rebellion' is occurring. Then the 'day/ year of recompense' is Trumpet 6's 1 year reference.

5 months later after his being revealed to the elect, he is crowned king of "Israel" at the start of the 6th trumpet (which lasts for 1 (lunar/ Jewish) year, 1 month, 1 day, 1 hour (385 days). (the same 385 days from Dan 9, 62 - 7 weeks = 55 weeks/ 385 days then the anointed one is cut off and will have nothing. At the start of the 6th Trumpet is also when Apollyon confirms the covenant (Mosaic covenant) (hence the 1260 days of the 2 witnesses 1st half of the 7). After the 385 days, Apollyon's head wound is healed and the beast from the earth comes, aka false prophet, and makes an image of Apollyon.

keras · Dec 25, 2015

tranquil said:
Sorry, Keras, the "day of the Lord" (aka the year of recompense Isa 34:8) you refer to is the "day/ year" that Apollyon is revealed to the elect. But he is revealed at the end of his 1260 days also to the non-elect at his destruction. The opening year of the tribulation is the year of Apollyon imitating Jesus.

You miss the fact of a literal Day, in which the Lord will destroy His enemies. Isaiah 10:17, Isaiah 29:5-6, Psalms 50:1-3, Revelation 18:8
What the Lord will use to literally fulfil all the prophesies about His Day of wrath, a CME sunstrike, will only take one 24 hour day. And as the next prophesied event, it will happen before the Return and before the last seven years.

Douggg · Dec 25, 2015

My concise entimes scenario.

1. little horn, who becomes....
2. the Antichrist perceived messiah to the Jews
3. the Antichrist's betrayal, going into the temple and revealing himself to be the man of sin. (beginning the day of the Lord)
4. the person killed, and comes-back to life, possessed by the original beast ascending out of the bottomless pit.
5. the person transforming to the beast's nature. To be in power that last 42 months.
6. the image made of the person, who has transformed into the beast.... the image being the AOD.....placed in the temple (beginning the great tribulation)
7. Jesus returns.

Dave Watchman · Dec 25, 2015

Our appointed time of the end began but nobody noticed it. Just like they didn't recognize Jesus' first visit. People were more worried about their own preconceptions being fulfilled, they never noticed that they were living right at the latter end of the kingdom of the rebels, when the transgressors had reached their limit.

After a year and a half into the 3.5 year tribulation, the man of sin is revealed and comes right out of the blue like a snare on the whole world. (Only those who had been keeping the commandments of God and held to the testimony of Jesus were kept from the hour of trial.)

Jesus returns like lightning shooting from the east and to the west and just like He said it came as a complete surprise. He gathers us up, destroys the destroyers of the earth, rolls this whole place up like a scroll and takes us all back to His father's House with many rooms for a thousand years. (My cat was waiting for me there.)

Then when the thousand years were finished, Jesus brings New Jerusalem back to earth with us inside and lands us on the mount of Olives. The rest of the dead are resurrected for judgment day and are thrown into the lake of fire.

Jesus re-creates a new heaven and new earth and I let my cat out to play.

PS: It turned out that New Jerusalem was always within eyesight and mankind had actually made numerous trips near to it. Even at it's largest measurement it just tucked nicely inside of the moon with each of it's eight corners concealed just 20ft below the lunar surface.

Peaceful Sabbath

Another Lazarus · Dec 26, 2015

dysert said:
Rapture

Antichrist revealed/Start of Tribulation

Seal judgments & start of 2 Witnesses (for 3 1/2 years) & Trumpet judgments 1-4

Antichrist turns against Israel and pursues her, but she's protected for 3 1/2 years; 2 Witnesses killed

Trumpet judgments 5-7 & Bowl judgments 1-7

Second Coming & Battle of Armageddon

satan cast to pit & Antichrist, False Prophet cast to LOF & unsaved killed

Millennium

Battle of Gog and Magog; unsaved killed

Great White Throne judgment & satan, unsaved to LOF

New Heaven, New Earth, New Jerusalem

Details available upon request ;-)

Correction if i may :
the 2 witness shall be killed at 3.5 years of tribulation by the beast from bottomless pit
the beast from bottomless pit is released by the 5th trumpets
so the 5th trumpets is blown at 3.5 years

antichrist is revealed before the Rapture (world religious figure) but not yet receive power to make false peace until the 1st seal is opened.
2 Thes 2 :3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

Another Lazarus · Dec 26, 2015

LastSeven said:
Jesus establishes his kingdom / Satan bound - done.

First resurrection of believers coming to Christ - ongoing.

Satan loosed.

Second resurrection / rapture / end of the world.

Judgement.

New earth.

The death in Christ shall rise first be4 Jesus kingdom is established and they shall be gathered with the living Saints in the CLOUD not on earth because this is the Rapture, while on earth ac rules in tribulation.
1 Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

antichrist is revealed before the Rapture (world religious figure) but not yet receive power to make false peace until the 1st seal is opened.
2 Thes 2 :3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

Another Lazarus · Dec 26, 2015

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...-mt-zion-after-the-great-tribulation.7907906/

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

dysert · Dec 27, 2015

Another Lazarus said:
Correction if i may :
the 2 witness shall be killed at 3.5 years of tribulation by the beast from bottomless pit
the beast from bottomless pit is released by the 5th trumpets
so the 5th trumpets is blown at 3.5 years

antichrist is revealed before the Rapture (world religious figure) but not yet receive power to make false peace until the 1st seal is opened.
2 Thes 2 :3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

I think you and I are quite close. I too believe the Witnesses are killed at year 3.5 of the Tribulation. I too believe that the bottomless pit is opened at Trumpet 5, which occurs at 3.5. (I also believe that the Age of Grace terminates with Trumpet 7.)

Antichrist may be revealed before the Rapture, but not *as* the antichrist. 2 Thes. 2:7-8 says that the lawless one will be revealed after the Holy Spirit is removed.

Another Lazarus · Dec 27, 2015

dysert said:
Antichrist may be revealed before the Rapture, but not *as* the antichrist. 2 Thes. 2:7-8 says that the lawless one will be revealed after the Holy Spirit is removed.

Yes ac will be revealed be4 rapture not as ac but as a Lovely Famous Religious Figure.
he will rcv power to make false peace with the opening of 1st seal.
and be appointed as the world leader by UN.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

bibletruth469 · Jan 1, 2016

My end times scenario is below:
The rapture is imminent, meaning that nothing has to happen first in order for it to take place and it can happen at any time. Only God knows when it will happen and it will be in His perfect timing. For various reasons, I believe it will happen before the tribulation starts.

The tribulation will not start until the covenant is confirmed. It may take place days, months or years after the rapture takes place. Look at Daniel 9:27," And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week..."( seven years).This is the Antichrist and he will confirm an existing covenant or treaty with Isreal and many nations. The nations and Israel will believe that they have true peace and they will also believe that this Antichrist is their true Messiash and will bring lasting peace, but it will not be true.

At mid point or 3 1\2 years of the tribulation, the Antichrist will break the covenant and cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease in the temple and he will declare himself to be God. 2 Thes 2:4. Also look at Matt 24:15. The last 3 1\2 years is known as the great tribulation and the one true and Holy God will declare righteous judgement on an unbelieving world.

Jesus returns after the tribulation and battle of Armageddon. All of the seal , trumpet and vial judgement have ended. Satan is bound for 1000 years and Jesus will then set up His earthly kingdom reign. Look at rev: 20

After Jesus has reigned on the earth for 1000 years, Satan will be loosed for a short season from the bottomless pit to deceive the nations. Many people will follow him instead of Jesus. Satan will be then cast into the lake of fire forever.

The great white throne judgement of unbelievers of the world will occur and they will also be cast into the lake of fire along with the Antichrist and false prophet.

A new heaven and new earth will come down prepared for a bride adorned for her husband.Rev 21:2 also look at rev 4. God will wipe every tear from eyes and there will be no more death or pain.

There are so many other details that can be added, but this above is a small example of an end times scenario. God bless!

keras · Jan 1, 2016

What is missing from most peoples view of what will happen, is how the AC will rise to power in order for him to make a treaty with the nation living in the Holy Land.
We know that first there will be 10 'kings' in control of the fourth kingdom, that will 'devour the whole earth'. Daniel 7:23-24. Revelation 17:12-13 This describes a One World Government, something that isn't possible at present, nations will not give up their sovereignty. It will take a worldwide disaster to force people to accede to the establishment of a OWG.
What this disaster will be and what will trigger it, is extensively prophesied in our Bibles. 1 Thessalonians 5:3-4 says this terrible Day of wrath will come suddenly and unexpectedly to the world, but we believers are not in the dark, we should be aware and prepared physically and spiritually for the fulfilment of the Lord's plans.

Douggg · Jan 1, 2016

keras said:
We know that first there will be 10 'kings' in control of the fourth kingdom, that will 'devour the whole earth'. Daniel 7:23-24. Revelation 17:12-13 This describes a One World Government, something that isn't possible at present, nations will not give up their sovereignty.

The European countries gave up their currencies (no CME event). The next step is federalizing Europe. That's where the ten leaders will be over, that final form of the EU government.

keras · Jan 2, 2016

Douggg said:
The European countries gave up their currencies (no CME event). The next step is federalizing Europe. That's where the ten leaders will be over, that final form of the EU government.

Not according to the Bible prophets, it isn't:
Daniel 7:23 .... this kingdom will control the whole earth, treading it down......
Revelation 13:7-8 ....given authority over every tribe, nation, and race. All the inhabitants of the world will worship him, except those whose names are written in the Book of Life.....

Why is it so difficult to see that it would only take a few big earthquakes, accompanied by devastating tsunamis and storms, to put our entire civilization in jeopardy? Then an OWG will be seen to be the answer to reorganizing everything.
But we who do read the Bible prophesies [presumably] can and should know how God will reset the world this time, as He did in Noah's day.

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