Iran Erupts: Crowds Burn US Flags and Swear to Ayatollah

[Job 33:6]

This is just my opinion. And I say this as a civilian who is not in the military. But, I believe that the cost of nuclear proliferation and inevitable nuclear war in the middle east by association, would far far far outweigh a conventional war against Iran in terms of casualties and destruction.

And we can all complain about Israel and complain about Donald Trump all day.

But if Iran developed nuclear weapons, we would have a dark future ahead. And not just Isreal, but the world. Because we know that regional rivals would then also seek them out. Every Sunni nation that rivals Iran today. Saudi Arabia. Perhaps Kuwait. Egypt. Maybe even Jordan or Qatar. They wouldn't sit by with a nuclear Iran as their neighbor. They've waged war against one another for centuries.

But, alternatively, if we get shah 2.0 in, the issue resolves itself for decades to come.

 

[durangodawood]

This is just my opinion. And I say this as a civilian who is not in the military. But, I believe that the cost of nuclear proliferation and inevitable nuclear war in the middle east by association, would far far far outweigh a conventional war against Iran in terms of casualties and destruction.

And we can all complain about Israel and complain about Donald Trump all day.

But if Iran developed nuclear weapons, we would have a dark future ahead. And not just Isreal, but the world. Because we know that regional rivals would then also seek them out. Every Sunni nation that rivals Iran today. Saudi Arabia. Perhaps Kuwait. Egypt. Maybe even Jordan or Qatar. They wouldn't sit by with a nuclear Iran as their neighbor. They've waged war against one another for centuries.

But, alternatively, if we get shah 2.0 in, the issue resolves itself for decades to come.

Shah 1.0 was the reason for Irans revolution and the predicament we're in now. Going down that road again just sets up the same kind of problem.

 

[DaisyDay]

Within Shia Islamic belief, the destruction of Israel is considered a necessary precursor for the reappearance of the 12th Imam, also known as the Mahdi
.
Key Points:

• Twelver Shia Belief: The Mahdi, who is believed to be the 12th Imam in hiding, will reappear at the end times to restore justice and establish a global Islamic state.
• Israel as an Obstacle: Some hardline clergy affiliated with the IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) claim that religious hadiths (sayings and actions of the Prophet Muhammad) state that the "Jewish state" (referring to Israel) must be destroyed before the Mahdi's return.
• The Mahdi's Actions: It is believed that the Mahdi will lead military operations against "tyrannical dictators" in the region and destroy them, eventually conquering Jerusalem and establishing his rule there. Islamic tradition also depicts the Mahdi leading an army to reconquer Israel for Islam and fighting against Jews, leading to a significant decrease in the Jewish population.

That's odd because Israel was destroyed about six hundred years before Islam even began.

 

[Job 33:6]

Shah 1.0 was the reason for Irans revolution and the predicament we're in now. Going down that road again just sets up the same kind of problem.

There has to be someone out there that can lead a nation without laws for execution of apostates.

 

[durangodawood]

There has to be someone out there that can lead a nation without laws for execution of apostates.

Its seems there was. But we were complicit in ousting him back in '53 for the crime of certain basic "Iran first" economic policies.

 

[Job 33:6]

Its seems there was. But we were complicit in ousting him back in '53 for the crime of certain basic "Iran first" economic policies.

Maybe we can go find him.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Your ideas about your political opponents are beginning to worry me.

If by "my idea about", you're referring to the tangible evidence I posted showing how an element of the left will blindly glom on to anything perceived to be "against the conservatives", my noticing that shouldn't be the thing that's concerning you... (nor is it merely "my idea", there's literally pictures and videos of them doing it)


..the thing that should be concerning you is that the aforementioned types of people are likely a contributor to why Democrats are struggling with poll numbers like this:

CNN's Harry Enten Unpacks Democrats' low approval ratings

Have you discussed them with anyone who could helpt you out?

Yes, I've tried talking to several Democrats and told them they need to do a better job distancing themselves from the looneys so that they can win over those of us who are moderates again and I could actually have a reason to vote in the next election, but they don't seem to want to take that advice, and merely want to keep the focus on bad Trump is.

Evidently they've decided to stick with the approach of "Because the other side is a dumpster fire, we'll foist upon people a slightly smaller dumpster with a little less fire in it, and just try to keep the focus on how bad the other guys are"

 

[ThatRobGuy]

That's definitely ironic. Painfully so, in fact.

I wonder, if Israel bombed the proud boys, would those same protestors hit the streets wearing those black and yellow polo shirts lol, or does that phenomenon only happen when certain "demographic dynamics" are in the mix?


I seriously think if Israel got in some sort of conflict with N. Korea, they'd actually start waving N. Korean flags and cheering Kim Jong un...and that's not an exaggeration.

 

[seeking.IAM]

Our foreign policy on Iran is not driven by religion. It is driven by not allowing Iranians the means to kill millions with nukes

We reserve the right to the means of killing millions for ourselves. Because, unlike the Iranians, we would never drop...oh, wait. Never mind.

 

[rjs330]

Tulsi Gabbard testified so in front of congress not so long ago (March 2025).

Did Gabbard say there was no reason to hit the Iranian nuke sites? I dont remember her saying that.

 

[rjs330]

Your arguments are not convincing, no. But never say never just because your defense of the event is weak.

Your defense is the same as was also during the US attack on Iraq and elsewhere. However, if we learned something, the US-led actions in the world are mostly proven wrong, disruptive or embarrassing (Afghanistan), after some time passes.

I cant really argue with this. This is why Trump is not the same as Bush or Obama. Bush really hosed us over with the way he did things and Obama kept it going. Then Biden totally dropped the ball on rhe withdrawal.

And because Bush screwed up so royally with Iraq it makes all the intelligence suspect. So I get that.

But this isnt Iraq. This is Iran and its a targeted hit on the nuclear sites. This isnt going into Iraq with the military and defeating the army and trying to set up.a new regime. Trump has said iver and over again hes not for that.

So you can question the intelligence, thats fair. But to equate everything that went on with Bush to what Trump did, is like trying to compare apples and oranges.

 

[rjs330]

Iran’s anti-West protests exploded again on Friday as thousands of demonstrators set US and Israeli flags ablaze in Tehran, chanting “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.”
The massive outpouring followed Friday prayers, with crowds lining Tehran’s streets, brandishing Hezbollah flags and portraits of slain commanders hit in recent Israeli missile strikes. One banner read, “I will sacrifice my life for my leader,” reflecting the fervor uniting the demonstrators behind Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

One moment, please...

I hope this left no doubt as to Iran's intentions toward America.

Its always been their intention. Has been since the 70s. Iran has killed more Americans than any other country.

 

[Bradskii]

I seriously think if Israel got in some sort of conflict with N. Korea, they'd actually start waving N. Korean flags and cheering Kim Jong un...and that's not an exaggeration.

No, it's simply nonsensical. But it seems you can't stop yourself from using this 'argument'.

Incidentally, anyone know how you commit 99% adultery? Asking for a friend...

 

[BCP1928]

Well you copied and pasted, we all know now.

It would have been different had you stated from your heart. But you did a copy paste.

Should I have sung you a hymn? But we are discussing doctrine, rather than faith, so I thought it best to post the authoritative statement of doctrine for Western Christendom. The question was not "Do you believe in God?" but "What God do you believe in?" I believe in the God described by that "cut and paste." Do you?

 

[BCP1928]

No, it's simply nonsensical. But it seems you can't stop yourself from using this 'argument'.

Incidentally, anyone know how you commit 99% adultery? Asking for a friend...

It's got to be a vast conspiracy. A tangle of overlapping, sometimes reinforcing, sometimes conflicting agendas just is not what he wants.

 

[Postvieww]

We reserve the right to the means of killing millions for ourselves. Because, unlike the Iranians, we would never drop...oh, wait. Never mind.

Sounds like someone doesn’t know history and can’t tell the difference between a righteous cause and an evil one. Your analogy was not as witty as you intended.

 

[BCP1928]

Sounds like someone doesn’t know history and can’t tell the difference between a righteous cause and an evil one.

How do you tell? The Iranians think it's the other way around.

 

[Postvieww]

That's odd because Israel was destroyed about six hundred years before Islam even began.

They believe it is a future prophetic event. It is Jews they hate which is what Israel today is largely compromised of.

 

[Postvieww]

How do you tell? The Iranians think it's the other way around.

They probably do but they are deceived! How do I know that? I believe the Bible.

 

[rjs330]

How do you tell? The Iranians think it's the other way around.

Yeah and Hitler thought the same way, so did Mao and Stalin. Gee there is just no way at all to tell who's got the right cause and who doesn't. We all have the right cause and if you rape and murder a woman you probably have rhe right cause too. Cause its all even right?