Earth in hot water? Worries over sudden ocean warming spike

[eclipsenow]

What on Earth is a "fusion-styled" laser?

I know what fusion is. I know what a laser is. I even know what "styled" means. None of these words go together.

Sorry - that was laziness on my part. I was in a rush in my last post.
There's a specific laser that came out of a fusion research institute, and it looks like it could just BURN its way down 10km to allow us to get at deep hot rocks almost anywhere on the planet. IF it works out technically viable and economically feasible. It's still being tested etc - but could be a game changer for baseload green power. As an added bonus, apparently it melts the rock around the bore hole and creates this glass tube perfect for pumping water down!

IF economical, it could do away with all the pumped-hydro dams Professor Blakers talks about. If solar keeps coming down in price, I imagine it still being on rooftops to charge any cars that might be parked at home during the day - just because solar is so unbelievably cheap now! Industry etc and various transport systems could all get a solar boost during the day. But geothermal would run at night.

 

[JohnEmmett]

From the warming water…


How does sudden climate apocalypse not result


How does that not lead to collapse of civilization


How does this not require a timeline reset

 

[eclipsenow]

From the warming water…


How does sudden climate apocalypse not result


How does that not lead to collapse of civilization


How does this not require a timeline reset

Wow - it's serious - but not that serious.
That is, it's taking a normal process (El Nino / La Nina ENSO cycle) and adding whatever % to it.
A bad El Nino caused Australia's awful 2019 fires and who knows how many billion animal deaths.
Rainforest areas that NEVER burn were dry and burned. Animals used to run to these secret valleys and cool spots, and burned.
But it didn't wipe out our civilisation. That's not going to be one universal event, but a series of ever increasing local economic damage. When the crops don't grow in one African country, they might end up going to war with their neighbours. That sort of thing. Bit by bit, getting worse each decade - until either some amazing new technologies make life better, or we go the other way into chaos.

Want some hope? Try this 6 minutes. It's the best technology since renewable energy! I just hope the economies of scale can kick in to bring the cost down.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Wow - it's serious - but not that serious.

Don’t look up

 

[eclipsenow]

Don’t look up

Great movie! Very subversive and so many pertinent insights into the culture wars.
Yet, fortunately for us, climate change is not as fast as an ELE asteroid impact.
It could cause unbelievable suffering - and some whole nations might go Mad Max for a while.
But other areas would survive.

One of the most serious climate events that could start soon are the "Wet Bulb" heatwaves. These sound like the stuff of science-fiction, but are straight from the physics of weather extremes pushed up past maximum due to all that extra heat.

Read this free opening chapter for the "Ministry for the future" to see and FEEL what it might look like.

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If my city was prone to these monsters, I would want a warning system similar to many nation's cyclone warning systems - and air-raid sirens tipped to go off the morning one was due to hit! Then some cool bunker or underground cave to hunker down in, because the electricity grid IS going down during one of these! There will not be any aircon to save anyone. (Here are the 4 ways heatwaves can impact electricity grids.)

An El Niño looms over Australia’s stressed electricity system – and we must plan for the worst

The likely El Niño is bad timing for the electricity sector, and means Australians may face supply disruptions and volatile prices.

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[Akita Suggagaki]

 

[eclipsenow]

I'm not even sure I get the joke? What do you make of all this Akita?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

I'm not even sure I get the joke? What do you make of all this Akita?

There is a common fraise that something "...is going to hell in a hand basket."
It seems at times that is so about our dear and precious Earth.
What saddens me the most is the proliferation of plastic.
There are those who deny that humans have an responsibility for climate change.
But plastics in the our seas and micro-particles now in all our bodies there can be no debate.
Our earth is in very sad shape.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Our earth is in very sad shape.

Kali yuga

 

[juvenissun]

Worries over sudden ocean warming spike​

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The world's oceans have suddenly spiked much hotter and well above record levels in the last few weeks, with scientists trying to figure out what it means and whether it forecasts a surge in atmospheric warming.​

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Some researchers think the jump in sea surface temperatures stems from a brewing and possibly strong natural El Nino warming weather condition plus a rebound from three years of a cooling La Nina, all on top of steady global warming that is heating deeper water below. If that's the case, they said, record-breaking ocean temperatures this month could be the first in many heat records to shatter.​

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From early March to this week, the global average ocean sea surface temperature jumped nearly two-tenths of a degree Celsius (0.36 degree Fahrenheit), according to the University of Maine's Climate Reanalyzer, which climate scientists use and trust. That may sound small, but for the average of the world's oceans — which is 71% of Earth's area —to rise so much in that short a time, “that's huge,” said University of Colorado climate scientist Kris Karnauskas. “That's an incredible departure from what was already a warm state to begin with.”​

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Climate scientists have been talking about the warming on social media and amongst themselves. Some, like University of Pennsylvania's Michael Mann, quickly dismiss concerns by saying it is merely a growing El Nino on top of a steady human-caused warming increase....​

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“La Nina's temporary grip on rising global temperatures has been released,” NOAA oceanographer Mike McPhaden said in an email. “One result is that March 2023 was the second highest March on record for global mean surface temperatures."​

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If El Nino makes its heavily forecasted appearance later this year “what we are seeing now is just a prelude to more records that are in the pipeline,” McPhaden wrote.​

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Karnauskas said what's likely to happen will be an “acceleration” of warming after the heat has been hidden for a few years.​

Assume seawater will flood your house in the next 100 years, are you going to cry climate change and kill yourself?
What would you do in that case? Would that be a disastrous situation to anyone?

 

[JohnEmmett]

Would that be a disastrous situation to anyone?

It’s the end of the world as we know it

 

[Frank Robert]

Assume seawater will flood your house in the next 100 years, are you going to cry climate change and kill yourself?
What would you do in that case? Would that be a disastrous situation to anyone?

The future is on a course that will be disastrous to our children and grand children. And the future is not as far off as you may think.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Assume seawater will flood your house in the next 100 years, are you going to cry climate change and kill yourself?

Assume seawater will flood your house in the next 100 years, are you going to cry to the government to replace an entire beach to save your house?

That's what people are facing right now (not in the next 100 years) in North Carolina and Florida. Insurers won't pay for it. Local government doesn't have the money for it. The most likely solution (still not cheap) is to buy up the threatened homes and tell the owners to go away. And the ones that won't sell can just vanish into the ocean.

MSN

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[sjastro]

Assume seawater will flood your house in the next 100 years, are you going to cry to the government to replace an entire beach to save your house?

That's what people are facing right now (not in the next 100 years) in North Carolina and Florida. Insurers won't pay for it. Local government doesn't have the money for it. The most likely solution (still not cheap) is to buy up the threatened homes and tell the owners to go away. And the ones that won't sell can just vanish into the ocean.

MSN

www.msn.com

The Australian government is being sued by its own citizens for rising sea levels caused by climate change.

 

[dlamberth]

Assume seawater will flood your house in the next 100 years, are you going to cry climate change and kill yourself?
What would you do in that case? Would that be a disastrous situation to anyone?

A lot of people are already dying because of climate change. There's also the climate change refugee's who's population is growing. The war in Syria began as a result of climate change. All of which points towards disastrous situations across the globe for a lot of people. And it will only get worse.

 

[eclipsenow]

And again, "Wet-bulb" heatwaves could settle in over various equatorial or Indian megacities and the grids will fail and millions, or tens of millions, will die.

What do you think the geopolitical ramifications would be?​

 

[JohnEmmett]

millions, or tens of millions, will die.

Unless there is a eucatastrophe

A eucatastrophe is a sudden turn of events in a story which ensures that the protagonist does not meet some terrible, impending, and very plausible and probable doom. Wikipedia​

 

[durangodawood]

Unless there is a eucatastrophe

A eucatastrophe is a sudden turn of events in a story which ensures that the protagonist does not meet some terrible, impending, and very plausible and probable doom. Wikipedia​

Whats a plausible eucatastrophe scenario in your opinion?

 

[JohnEmmett]

Whats a plausible eucatastrophe scenario in your opinion?

Time loop

 

[eclipsenow]

Time loop

... another sensible contribution?