Earth in hot water? Worries over sudden ocean warming spike

[eclipsenow]

How come you're being abusive? You don't believe?

It's against the forum rules to insinuate a fellow brother is not a believer, and as I was explaining in my last post, basically trolling to keep coming into the science forums and using "Escapist Eschatology" to pretend climate change isn't a huge moral obligation Christians must deal with. It's the moral equivalent of the abolition of slavery, and at the moment you don't sound like you're on Wilberforce's side if you get my drift.

 

[friend of]

Fingers crossed that the heat kills many humans and creates a famine and migration crisis that leads to even more death and destruction.

Hey! I'm recycling and using 1 sheet of toilet paper per visit to the washroom. Climate change should not be happening

 

[AV1611VET]

It's just impolite to keep coming into the science forum and going "Oh yeah" and sticking your Dispensational tongue out at everyone in here.

If you want to sound an alarm that Mother Nature is getting hot under the collar and about to start throwing a tantrum, that's your prerogative.

But do you mind if I chime in with a glimmer of hope now and then?

Doesn't GOD IS IN CONTROL make you feel better about the world situation?

Or do you just want to talk gloom & doom all day long?

 

[AV1611VET]

Hey! I'm recycling and using 1 sheet of toilet paper per visit to the washroom. Climate change should not be happening

Check out all this stuff that's supposed to contribute to global warming, that tree huggers probably use daily:

gas-powered cars
cement patios
glass windows
barbecue grills
fireplaces
soda pop
CO2 extinguishers

 

[eclipsenow]

If you want to sound an alarm that Mother Nature is getting hot under the collar and about to start throwing a tantrum, that's your prerogative.

It's your duty as well buddy, because it's real, it's us, and you have responsibilities to love your neighbour.

But do you mind if I chime in with a glimmer of hope now and then?

I have eternal hope - but it could be that the Lord returns in 5 seconds or 50,000 years. We don't know. He said we don't know. Anyone saying anything different is threading the needle for the Emperor's new clothes, and it ain't gonna end well.

Doesn't GOD IS IN CONTROL make you feel better about the world situation?

You need to read some theology about sovereignty and responsibility.

Or do you just want to talk gloom & doom all day long?

I want to talk about the very real demonstrable physics of this, and what we can do about it.
You just want to crash in like a bull in a China shop, and shout "Don't worry everyone, I've got this...." and then offer trite and irrelevant Dispensational platitudes. It reveals an ignorance of the importance of the science, a glibness in your theology, and a something out of whack in your spiritual attitude - although I don't know you and don't know what that is. But it's just off. It's not a good look for a Christian to be behaving like this in a science forum. Please stop

 

[friend of]

You just want to crash in like a bull in a China

Speaking of China. Why are they always getting off the hook on climate change when they contribute more CO2 emissions than any other developed country on earth?

 

[AV1611VET]

Please stop.

I don't intend to.

1 Thessalonians 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[USincognito]

Speaking of China. Why are they always getting off the hook on climate change when they contribute more CO2 emissions than any other developed country on earth?

Where did you get the idea that they're "always getting off the hook"?

 

[friend of]

Where did you get the idea that they're "always getting off the hook"?

Sic Greta Thunberg on their environmental minister why don't you.

 

[USincognito]

Sic Greta Thunberg on their environmental minister why don't you.

Again, where did you get the idea that they're "always getting off the hook"?

 

[JohnEmmett]

I don't intend to.

Proverbs 16:18

 

[friend of]

Again, where did you get the idea that they're "always getting off the hook"?

Because they never get the scrutiny they deserve. Climate change is always the west's fault. China is angel. West's bad.

 

[eclipsenow]

Because they never get the scrutiny they deserve. Climate change is always the west's fault. China is angel. West's bad.

Historically we've dumped more emissions. Look at the per capita rates. Basically speaking, the average Westerner STILL dumps vastly more CO2 into the atmosphere than the average Chinese - just because there is still so much poverty in China. Sure, they overtook the annual output rates but they have 1.3 billion people. America has about 0.3 billion people, yet burns a quarter of the planets oil! Go figure.

Basically, on historical measures, it's like Freddy Kruger walking past a day care and saying, "OK, now one of you kids was DEFINITELY teasing the other! Fess up! Don't think you're going to get away with this!"

 

[USincognito]

Because they never get the scrutiny they deserve. Climate change is always the west's fault. China is angel. West's bad.

That's a popular conservative talking point, but it's just not true. Anyone who understands GLOBAL warming knows that it's cause is global. China and India have extremely large populations so they're a big part of the problem, but per capita China's C02 emissions are half of the U.S. and India's are 1/8th.

 

[Astrid]

Dispensational timelines are concocted around whatever the flavour-of-the-month is in the geopolitics of the day.
I'm Amillennial - but taking a break from the frantic nature of the eschatology forum these days.
You're welcome to head over there if you want to discuss whatever it is you want to discuss - but this is a science forum.
It's just impolite to keep coming into the science forum and going "Oh yeah" and sticking your Dispensational tongue out at everyone in here.

There's a super easy way to put an end to it.

 

[friend of]

Look at the per capita rates.

Per capita rates don't matter. China is still responsible for a staggering 40% of emissions. The air quality in many areas of China proves this. You cannot significantly tackle climate change if China isn't on board.

 

[friend of]

There's a super easy way to put an end to it.

How?

 

[JohnEmmett]

This warming water is why I suspect a time loop is necessary

 

[AV1611VET]

How?

Some resort to the IGNORE button when they realize they're getting more Scripture or doctrine than science.

 

[Astrid]

How?

Ignore.