Full FDA approval will cause acceptance

[Mark Quayle]

During his campaign, I watched the man flip-flop on abortion three times in one week.

I didn't. But your mainstream news did, no doubt. Or that's how they took it.

 

[Pommer]

I didn't. But your mainstream news did, no doubt. Or that's how they took it.

“‘Take the guns first, go through due process second,’ Trump said.”

Did he ever change his mind on that one?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

“‘Take the guns first, go through due process second,’ Trump said.”

Did he ever change his mind on that one?

Why bother with due process if you have the guns?

 

[Fantine]

Part of doing research involves choosing the right sources. If someone does lots of research but consistently uses unreliable sources, they could be educated in other fields but uneducated in epidemiology (like the European veterinarian trying to peddle his own COVID remedies, although they are unpatented and unsuccessful).

I am educated and well-read in a number of disciplines but ask me a question about mechanical or chemical engineering or physics and I am completely at a loss.

In a field like climate change, for example, 3% of scientists look at the same stats and find a different conclusion. Since fossil fuel companies hire scientists, would you be surprised they find their employers blameless?

Why do smart people come to not so smart conclusions? Those might be a few reasons.

 

[TLK Valentine]

“‘Take the guns first, go through due process second,’ Trump said.”

Did he ever change his mind on that one?

As always, it was his followers who changed their minds... specifically, their memories.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Your comment is far more applicable to the covid-authoritarians, than it is to the vaccine-sceptics.

For example:
1. Most Common Masks Only Filter 10% of Exhaled Aerosol Droplets
2. Fully vaccinated adults can carry the same amount of coronavirus as those who are unvaccinated

One by one, all the covid-authoritarian pieces of dogma are being swept away.

That's what you did. You ignored the issues with the most common masks, and viral loads in vaccinated people, and diverted onto a whole load of other stuff. And if more covid-authoritarian stuff is discredited, then I expect you'll do the same, until eventually there's nothing left to support the covid-authoritarian position.

Wow - same post quoted twice in the same thread before I could even reply....

BTW - in your first point you debunked yourself.

“There is no question it is beneficial to wear any face covering, both for protection in close proximity and at a distance in a room,” said Serhiy Yarusevych, a professor of mechanical and mechatronics engineering and the leader of the study.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Why bother with due process if you have the guns?

"Why bother with due process at all?" was the question on a lot of minds on January 6.

 

[Mark Quayle]

“‘Take the guns first, go through due process second,’ Trump said.”

Did he ever change his mind on that one?

If that was his mind. I am skeptical that was the whole quote.

What was the context, arrests? Or purchasing firearms?

Edit: Nevermind, I got past the popup. There is a lot more to the story than what was presented there: "The suspected shooter, Nikolas Cruz, was able to legally purchase the AR-15 reportedly used in the shooting despite numerous calls to law enforcement about his unstable behavior." Wonder why....

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

But I’ve never seen a realistic and coherent answer to my question: what do you have that’s better?

Natural immunity. The thing our sainted FDA wants to pretend isn't durable and robust. Memory B cells don't lie (except in a quiescent state, sometimes for decades).

Natural Immunity After COVID-19 Found Durable and Robust

 

[ThisIsMe123]

Natural immunity. The thing our sainted FDA wants to pretend isn't durable and robust. Memory B cells don't lie (except in a quiescent state, sometimes for decades).

Natural Immunity After COVID-19 Found Durable and Robust

PrecisionVaccanations? I don't trust a web domain that long.

 

[Taodeching]

Exactly. As each talking point gets debunked, they'll simply try to pretend it never happened and move on to something else.

Your comment is far more applicable to the covid-authoritarians, than it is to the vaccine-sceptics.

For example:
1. Most Common Masks Only Filter 10% of Exhaled Aerosol Droplets
2. Fully vaccinated adults can carry the same amount of coronavirus as those who are unvaccinated

One by one, all the covid-authoritarian pieces of dogma are being swept away.

They start even before the FDA has said anything.I think they want us always to have the pandemic around

 

[NxNW]

Natural immunity.

That's not going to help the 600,000 Americans who who died from it, it the millions who have permanent organ damage.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

PrecisionVaccanations? I don't trust a web domain that long.

I expected no more.

 

[Pommer]

FDA approval won't matter to the highly educated. They've done their research and there is no changing their mind. Violations of all 10 points of the Nuremberg Code, especially those dealing with 'informed consent' and the lack of a control group in the initial clinical trials. Folks with PhDs know how research is SUPPOSED to be conducted, so when something smells rotten in Denmark...

FDA approval won't matter to the innately stubborn. Make life difficult for them to manipulate them into compliance? Cowardly, and it won't work. The more it is pandered, the more resistance they will meet. The vaccination rate in the US is less than HALF of what is being reported in the mainstream media. Everyone OVERSOLD it as soon as it came out, and that threw up flags of suspicion for a lot of people.

"A vaccine so safe the government has to coerce you to take it, for a virus so deadly you have to get a test to find out if you have it"

FDA approval only matters to folks who trust the medical establishment, trust the media, and trust that they have a benevolent government who would never do anything to harm them.

Oh? So it’s not an attempt by Mother Nature to get rid of an infection of psychotic apes, but psychotic apes scheming to have control over other psychotic apes?
Wow…yeah.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Everyone OVERSOLD it as soon as it came out, and that threw up flags of suspicion for a lot of people.

Flags of suspicion are flying all over this Covid brouhaha.

 

[Pommer]

Flags of suspicion are flying all over this Covid brouhaha.

It’s a pandemic, we’ve had them before, we will get them again…the best that we can do, is to try to be of one (collective) mind about getting through these difficult times without tearing one another apart.

Do you think that we are able to do that?, get along to get through these times?

I am absolutely certain that we can (and will), (whatever hardships or freedoms curtailed there may have been), we we’re confident in our fellow citizens that the “normal course of order” will have been be restored at the earliest time allowable to meet the goals set by our society!

What do you think?

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

It’s a pandemic, we’ve had them before, we will get them again…the best that we can do, is to try to be of one (collective) mind about getting through these difficult times without tearing one another apart.

Do you think that we are able to do that?, get along to get through these times?

I am absolutely certain that we can (and will), (whatever hardships or freedoms curtailed there may have been), we we’re confident in our fellow citizens that the “normal course of order” will have been be restored at the earliest time allowable to meet the goals set by our society!

What do you think?

I hope we can.

 

[ranunculus]

"A vaccine so safe the government has to coerce you to take it, for a virus so deadly you have to get a test to find out if you have it"

You have to get a test huh? You mean like for cancer, or aids, or pretty much any disease?

FDA approval only matters to folks who trust the medical establishment, trust the media, and trust that they have a benevolent government who would never do anything to harm them.

Can't wait for the anti vaxxers to shift their argument from 'the vaccines haven't been FDA approved yet so I'm not taking it' to 'I don't trust the government so I'm not taking it'.

 

[Nithavela]

I think now that the Pfizer vaccine has gotten full FDA approval, it will help to convince some people to get vaccinated but I'm pretty sure there are still people out there who will refuse it. I posted on Facebook about it getting full approval earlier and right away one of my relatives posted that they would still not get vaccinated. I just hope and pray that none of my unvaccinated relatives come down with the virus because it could potentially kill them.

Its good that you pray, because it would take a miracle to prevent an infection with the delta variant without vaccination.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Its good that you pray, because it would take a miracle to prevent an infection with the delta variant without vaccination.

haha... except the vaccine doesn't prevent an infection with the delta variant, nor does it prevent the vaccinated from spreading the disease..

So basically your saying prayer is ALL we have...