Full FDA approval will cause acceptance

[Desk trauma]

I want to see what happens and how you change your tune in a few months when the deaths from the vaccinated folks cannot be hidden or blamed on the unvaccinated. I want to see how even if you get your way and everyone gets a shot, that nothing is ever going back to normal.

Well, that’s a bit bolder than putting it a few years out like most have here.

 

[HisGraceAbounds]

Nice to see that you agree.

Acknowledging your opinion, not agreeing with you.

You really do like to read into things.

 

[Nithavela]

Well, that’s a bit bolder than putting it a few years out like most have here.

Banking on people forgetting about it either way.

 

[KCfromNC]

FDA approval won't matter to the highly educated.

True, because most of them will have been vaccinated already.

This post is an example of a debate trick called poisoning the well. There, the attempt is to make up something negative about the people participating in an attempt to convince others to ignore what they say. Here, the obvious implication is that only people who are less than highly educated will get vaccinated. But that's not only a baseless personal attack against people who have, but pretty obviously wrong given how much education medical doctors have and their 95%+ vaccination rate.

So, both an attempt to mislead using personal attacks and something obviously factually incorrect in the first sentence. Par for the course for an anti-vaxx posting.

 

[KCfromNC]

Natural immunity.

Given the death rate of getting this natural immunity, why would anyone prefer that to simply being vaccinated?

 

[Desk trauma]

Banking on people forgetting about it either way.

I book marked one but I’m sure there will be no response much less admission of being mistaken.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

You just told me that it's more fun not to.

Starting to think "HisGraceBounds" is rather a troll, likes to play games.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

I've read the FDA approval. From the text it is very clear that the trials are yet to be completed. Many trials will not be completed, written up, and submitted until 2023, 2024, or 2025. I feel sorry for those who are mislead by the press releases into thinking that all the trials have been completed, and that this covid vaccine is as safe as other vaccines that have completed all the relevant trials.

 

[KCfromNC]

I've read the FDA approval. From the text it is very clear that the trials are yet to be completed. Many trials will not be completed, written up, and submitted until 2023, 2024, or 2025.

Imagine that, we won't know how good the 2-5 year protection from the vaccine is until 2 to 5 years have passed. Not sure what that's supposed to prove, but I guess thanks for pointing it out.

 

[HisGraceAbounds]

True, because most of them will have been vaccinated already.

I was referring to this:

The most vaccine-hesitant group of all? PhDs - The Post

Thank you for the tongue lashing. Very satisfying. Hope it was as good for you.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

Imagine that, we won't know how good the 2-5 year protection from the vaccine is until 2 to 5 years have passed. Not sure what that's supposed to prove, but I guess thanks for pointing it out.

If you had bothered to read the text screen grabs I posted, you would know that the incomplete trials are nothing to do with how good the vaccine is at protecting people from covid. The incomplete trials are about how safe the vaccine is.

Nevertheless, thank you for providing an excellent illustration of how even when you put the words right in front of people in black and white, they don't read or understand any of it, and just respond to what they imagine the text says. It's hilarious, and what I've come to expect from many forum members on here, but it's also very sad that so many people are incapable of reading and processing basic information.

 

[Nithavela]

I book marked one but I’m sure there will be no response much less admission of being mistaken.

I suggest using this:
FutureMe: Write a Letter to your Future Self

 

[Nithavela]

Acknowledging your opinion, not agreeing with you.

You really do like to read into things.

Well, it is a lot of fun.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

I was referring to this:

The most vaccine-hesitant group of all? PhDs - The Post

Thank you for the tongue lashing. Very satisfying. Hope it was as good for you.

Yep. And it's because they understand what proper, robust science looks like, and covid vaccine trials aren't the real deal. It takes a lot of time and effort to gain a PhD, especially in a STEM subject. And it also takes a lot of time and effort to create robust research for publication. If there's one group that know when something doesn't smell right, it's PhDs, Post-Docs, and STEM academics and professors.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

If you had bothered to read the text screen grabs I posted, you would know that the incomplete trials are nothing to do with how good the vaccine is at protecting people from covid. The incomplete trials are about how safe the vaccine is.

Nevertheless, thank you for providing an excellent illustration of how even when you put the words right in front of people in black and white, they don't read or understand any of it, and just respond to what they imagine the text says. It's hilarious, and what I've come to expect from many forum members on here, but it's also very sad that so many people are incapable of reading and processing basic information.

That's because some of us already read what you've posted, prior to you even posting it here.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

I was referring to this:

The most vaccine-hesitant group of all? PhDs - The Post

Thank you for the tongue lashing. Very satisfying. Hope it was as good for you.

What is this "unherd" site? Never "herd" of it.

 

[Hazelelponi]

It greatly reduces the chance of infection, and in case of infection it greatly reduces the chance of the diseased person ending up in the ICU

So they say... but it's smoke and mirrors that doesn't change the truth of my statement. The vaccinated can both recieve as well as transmit the disease...

I'm not seeing a lot of benefit in "might not die".

 

[ThisIsMe123]

So they say... but it's smoke and mirrors that doesn't change the truth of my statement. The vaccinated can both receive as well as transmit the disease...

Yeah, so?

It decreases the severity of disease and reduces the amount of anti-vaxxers from clogging the hospitals.

 

[Hazelelponi]

reduces the amount of anti-vaxxers from clogging the hospitals.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I'm anti stupidity. And I'm certainly anti-totalitarianism.

You may be able to starve me out but I'll happily die before bowing to the god of modern totalitarian science.

Luke 12:4

 

[KCfromNC]

If you had bothered to read the text screen grabs I posted, you would know that the incomplete trials are nothing to do with how good the vaccine is at protecting people from covid. The incomplete trials are about how safe the vaccine is.

Is there any data from them which gives any indication there's currently anything to worry about? It is a good thing they'll continue to look for issues which might pop up in the future, but given the safety record so far, the hope by anti-vaxxers that those issues will magically start showing up just past whatever we've observed is more of a leap of faith than anything else.

I mean, a similar argument to yours might complain about car dealerships being allowed to sell new cars because we don't have complete 5 year safety records of widespread use of the new models. I'm sure people can see how this is a completely unreasonable standard.