Full FDA approval will cause acceptance

[ThisIsMe123]

I am kind of thinking that this whole ant-Covid-vaccination thing will end in a similar way similar to that of the X stages of grief (Forgot how many)....but I know it ends in....acceptance.

I'm pretty sure the unvaccinated will start to accept that they will have to get the vaccine if they want to be employed, join colleges/classes, gyms, facilities, or whatever place that has an indoors that they'll have to just grin and bite the bullet at get the vaccine due to the inability to do much without having it.

I know employment will be a biggie...unless you decide to go into business for yourself doing outdoor work or something.

Full FDA approval of Pfizer Covid shot will enable vaccine requirements

 

[Strathos]

Somehow I doubt it. They'll just make up another conspiracy. Just like so many people didn't accept that Biden won the election, and still refuse to accept it.

 

[Mark Quayle]

I am kind of thinking that this whole ant-Covid-vaccination thing will end in a similar way similar to that of the X stages of grief (Forgot how many)....but I know it ends in....acceptance.

I'm pretty sure the unvaccinated will start to accept that they will have to get the vaccine if they want to be employed, join colleges/classes, gyms, facilities, or whatever place that has an indoors that they'll have to just grin and bite the bullet at get the vaccine due to the inability to do much without having it.

I know employment will be a biggie...unless you decide to go into business for yourself doing outdoor work or something.

Full FDA approval of Pfizer Covid shot will enable vaccine requirements

One thing for sure: Lawyers will make money off this too!

 

[Taodeching]

I am kind of thinking that this whole ant-Covid-vaccination thing will end in a similar way similar to that of the X stages of grief (Forgot how many)....but I know it ends in....acceptance.

Even then there will be excuses not to get the vaccination, I don't trust them really and I want to be proven wrong

 

[Desk trauma]

It will cause goal post movement and different talking points, not acceptance.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

It will cause goal post movement and different talking points, not acceptance.

Exactly. As each talking point gets debunked, they'll simply try to pretend it never happened and move on to something else.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

Exactly. As each talking point gets debunked, they'll simply try to pretend it never happened and move on to something else.

Your comment is far more applicable to the covid-authoritarians, than it is to the vaccine-sceptics.

For example:
1. Most Common Masks Only Filter 10% of Exhaled Aerosol Droplets
2. Fully vaccinated adults can carry the same amount of coronavirus as those who are unvaccinated

One by one, all the covid-authoritarian pieces of dogma are being swept away.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

Your comment is far more applicable to the covid-authoritarians, than it is to the vaccine-sceptics.

For example:
1. Most Common Masks Only Filter 10% of Exhaled Aerosol Droplets
2. Fully vaccinated adults can carry the same amount of coronavirus as those who are unvaccinated

One by one, all the covid-authoritarian pieces of dogma are being swept away.

1. Depends on the mask, some filter more than others. Still better than NOT wearing them at all. Also, it's most effective if everyone in the room wears masks. Of course, the anti-maskers won't be doing this, as they are part of the problem of this spread.

2. See 1. Wear a mask. What's so hard about this?

 

[sfs]

2. Fully vaccinated adults can carry the same amount of coronavirus as those who are unvaccinated

1. Every study has shown that vaccinated people are less likely to be infected at all than the unvaccinated, with estimated reductions ranging from ~40% to ~80%. This means vaccination reduces transmission by a lot.
2. Vaccination reduces the rate of symptomatic infections. Asymptomatic breakthrough infections have lower viral load. This means vaccination reduces transmission.
3. Viral loads drop faster in vaccinated people. This means vaccination reduces transmission.
4. Vaccinated people with same viral load as unvaccinated people appear (in the latest study) to carry less infectious virus, something that had been suspected. If correct, this again means that vaccination reduces transmission.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

1. Depends on the mask, some filter more than others. Still better than NOT wearing them at all. Also, it's most effective if everyone in the room wears masks. Of course, the anti-maskers won't be doing this, as they are part of the problem of this spread.

2. See 1. Wear a mask. What's so hard about this?

1. Every study has shown that vaccinated people are less likely to be infected at all than the unvaccinated, with estimated reductions ranging from ~40% to ~80%. This means vaccination reduces transmission by a lot.
2. Vaccination reduces the rate of symptomatic infections. Asymptomatic breakthrough infections have lower viral load. This means vaccination reduces transmission.
3. Viral loads drop faster in vaccinated people. This means vaccination reduces transmission.
4. Vaccinated people with same viral load as unvaccinated people appear (in the latest study) to carry less infectious virus, something that had been suspected. If correct, this again means that vaccination reduces transmission.

I recommend that both of you read and understand the post I quoted and was responding to, and then re-read what I said and make sure you understand the proper context of my post. Once you've done that, you might be in a better position to respond to what I was saying, rather than responding to what you imagined I was saying.

 

[sfs]

I recommend that both of you read and understand the post I quoted and was responding to, and then re-read what I said and make sure you understand the proper context of my post. Once you've done that, you might be in a better position to respond to what I was saying, rather than responding to what you imagined I was saying.

I read it originally. I have now reread it and I have no idea what you're complaining about here. Your statement was that all pro-vaccine pieces of dogma were being swept away; I assumed the link you provided was intended to support that point. It doesn't. Offered as a rebuttal to pro-vaccine arguments, it's misleading.

If you weren't trying to rebut a pro-vaccine argument, what were you trying to do?

 

[Fantine]

The most untrustworthy president to ever hold the office encouraged his supporters to distrust government and its agencies.

People who don't trust the FDA will still suspect it has surveillance chips, etc.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The most untrustworthy president to ever hold the office encouraged his supporters to distrust government and its agencies.

And now they don't even trust him anymore...

Trump booed after telling supporters to get Covid vaccine

 

[Mark Quayle]

The most untrustworthy president to ever hold the office encouraged his supporters to distrust government and its agencies.

People who don't trust the FDA will still suspect it has surveillance chips, etc.

(Maybe I'm wrong, but,) you seem to imply here that the etc. is 'like the surveillance chips conspiracy, utterly bogus'.

I don't trust the FDA because they have not proved trustworthy. Nor the AMA nor so many others. All of them agenda, power and money driven, as far as I can tell. The older I get the less reason I see to trust Government and its agencies and organizations-in-good-standing. Equity has long been absent.

 

[Mark Quayle]

And now they don't even trust him anymore...

Trump booed after telling supporters to get Covid vaccine

Some of us never did. But we trusted Hillary less.

And I have to say, Trump surprised me with how well he did, and particularly with how well he did in the face of such opposition, and in waking people up to many facts about the corruption in Government. (Not to mention that I love his thumbing the nose at mainstream media).

But I still don't entirely trust him —this is nothing new. But I support him.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I am kind of thinking that this whole ant-Covid-vaccination thing will end in a similar way similar to that of the X stages of grief (Forgot how many)....but I know it ends in....acceptance.

I'm pretty sure the unvaccinated will start to accept that they will have to get the vaccine if they want to be employed, join colleges/classes, gyms, facilities, or whatever place that has an indoors that they'll have to just grin and bite the bullet at get the vaccine due to the inability to do much without having it.

I know employment will be a biggie...unless you decide to go into business for yourself doing outdoor work or something.

Full FDA approval of Pfizer Covid shot will enable vaccine requirements

Let's find out:

Pfizer's COVID Vaccine Gets Full Approval From The FDA

Let the new excuses begin...

 

[jayem]

I don’t understand the thinking of the masking/social distancing/vaccine deniers. They spout a constant refrain that these measures may have limited effectiveness, a failure rate, and in the case of vaccines, significant side effects. They’re not perfect. Heck, no medical intervention is perfect. That should be obvious. But I’ve never seen a realistic and coherent answer to my question: what do you have that’s better?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Exactly. As each talking point gets debunked, they'll simply try to pretend it never happened and move on to something else.

The whole world has now become an internet message board.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Anyone who has spent any time talking to serious antivaxxers knows they have a bagful of red herrings to throw out as they play pigeon chess. Their bag will not even be measurably lighter after this. But hopefully it will matter to the people who are sincerely 'hesitant' about the vaccine.

 

[Strathos]

I don’t understand the thinking of the masking/social distancing/vaccine deniers. They spout a constant refrain that these measures may have limited effectiveness, a failure rate, and in the case of vaccines, significant side effects. They’re not perfect. Heck, no medical intervention is perfect. That should be obvious. But I’ve never seen a realistic and coherent answer to my question: what do you have that’s better?

Hydroxychloroquine, horse dewormer, and bad interpretations of the Bible?