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My `homework` on Daniel`s 4 beasts.

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Hi Daniel,

I see you have done much work as I read some of your notes. So can you tell me any proof that the beasts of Dan. 7 are the same as the World Rulers of Dan. 2, in the Great Image?
Wasn’t that enough proof? You want even more? God already stepped in it inspiring Daniel 2. 4 empires then the promised age. God isn’t Harold Camping or Hal Lindsey. He doesn’t get to add more empires or kingdoms later down the road when it doesn’t pan out the way he said at the first. And make no mistake he used the word four. Not five not six. 4 empires followed by his kingdom filling the earth.

The problem your facing is that you don’t know there are dozens of chapters of prophecy about that promised age before the book of Daniel. In Isaiah, the Psalms, the Torah, Jeremiah etc etc. So you’ve got Mohamed’s, Jehovahs Witnesses, the Mormons and dozens of other cults and carnal readers idea’s of what that promised age that was to follow the fourth empire looks like. Rather than the dozens of chapters of prophecy proceeding Daniel plus many after about what it will look like. Your looking for the end of the world as we know it. But that is not what those dozens of chapters prophesy, by any stretch of the imagination.

What is starting in Daniel is God telling the world exactly when that promised age would begin. All the other end time prophesies following Daniel 2 are merely expansions, added details of the divine timeline.

Which is why everyone that is looking for and teaching about; speculating about the end of the world as we know it is dabbling in false prophecy.
 
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Wasn’t that enough proof? You want even more? God already stepped in it inspiring Daniel 2. 4 empires then the promised age. God isn’t Harold Camping or Hal Lindsey. He doesn’t get to add more empires or kingdoms later down the road when it doesn’t pan out the way he said at the first. And make no mistake he used the word four. Not five not six. 4 empires followed by his kingdom filling the earth.

The problem your facing is that you don’t know there are dozens of chapters of prophecy about that promised age before the book of Daniel. In Isaiah, the Psalms, the Torah, Jeremiah etc etc. So you’ve got Mohamed’s, Jehovahs Witnesses, the Mormons and dozens of other cults and carnal readers idea’s of what that promised age that was to follow the fourth empire looks like. Rather than the dozens of chapters of prophecy proceeding Daniel plus many after about what it will look like. Your looking for the end of the world as we know it. But that is not what those dozens of chapters prophesy, by any stretch of the imagination.

What is starting in Daniel is God telling the world exactly when that promised age would begin. All the other end time prophesies following Daniel 2 are merely expansions, added details of the divine timeline.

Which is why everyone that is looking for and teaching about; speculating about the end of the world as we know it is dabbling in false prophecy.

So Daniel, what does this world today look like from scripture?
 
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Hi jgr,

That`s fine. I miss things too.

Yes I did re-read your post 31 and agree that the `feet & toes,` are one kingdom. However I do not see that it is Rome. God judged that rulership as he did the others previously.

Daniel 2
32 This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,
33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.

Head of gold -- Babylon
Breast and arms of silver -- Medo-Persia
Belly and thighs of brass -- Greece
Legs and feet of iron and clay -- Rome
 
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False prophecy in the guise of pop culture end time prophecy. Turning the multiple prophecies of the coming of the Lord and the day of the Lord. Of which there are many of in the Bible. Into a prophecy of the end of the world as we know it. Taking prophecies about the end times of the second covenant age 70 AD and then other prophecies about the end times of the age of the four gentile empires 1453 AD. When what had been the capitol of the Roman Empire since 333 AD, Constantinople was conquered and the last Roman emperor killed. Then turning all those end time prophecies into a prophecy about the end of the world. In the mean time being completely blinded by that false prophecy so that one can’t see the 100 plus chapters of good news prophecy about this promised age we are now living in.

Isaiah 60: 3 And nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising. 4 Lift up your eyes all around, and see; they all gather together, they come to you; your sons shall come from afar, and your daughters shall be carried on the hip. 5 Then you shall see and be radiant; your heart shall thrill and exult, because the abundance of the sea shall be turned to you, the wealth of the nations shall come to you. (ESV)
Isaiah 49:6 He says: “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”...8 Thus said the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard you, and in a day of salvation have I helped you: and I will preserve you, and give you for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;
Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
Isaiah 49:6 He says: “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”...8 Thus said the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard you, and in a day of salvation have I helped you: and I will preserve you, and give you for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages
Isaiah 42:Behold my servant, (the messiah) whom I uphold; my elect, in whom my soul delights; I have put my spirit on him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment to truth. 4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law. 5 Thus said God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which comes out of it; he that gives breath to the people on it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6 I the LORD have called you in righteousness, and will hold your hand, and will keep you, and give you for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
Psalm 72:2 He shall judge your people with righteousness, and your poor with judgment. 3 The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness. 4 He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor. 5 They shall fear you as long as the sun and moon endure, throughout all generations. 6 He shall come down like rain on the mown grass: as showers that water the earth. 7 In his days shall the righteous flourish; and abundance of peace so long as the moon endures. 8 He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river to the ends of the earth. 9 They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him; and his enemies shall lick the dust. 10 The kings of Tarshish and of the isles shall bring presents: the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts. 11 Yes, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him. 12 For he shall deliver the needy when he cries; the poor also, and him that has no helper. 13 He shall spare the poor and needy, and shall save the souls of the needy. 14 He shall redeem their soul from deceit and violence: and precious shall their blood be in his sight. 15 And he shall live, and to him shall be given of the gold of Sheba: prayer also shall be made for him continually; and daily shall he be praised. 16 There shall be an handful of corn in the earth on the top of the mountains; the fruit thereof shall shake like Lebanon: and they of the city shall flourish like grass of the earth. 17 His name shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed. 18 Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel, who only does wondrous things. 19 And blessed be his glorious name for ever: and let the whole earth be filled with his glory; Amen, and Amen.


Yeah, we are reallly living in the kingdom age!.. Not! :sick:
 
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Yeah, we are reallly living in the kingdom age!.. Not! :sick:

Colossians 1
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


You haven't been translated into the kingdom?

Are you untranslated, or mistranslated?
 
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Colossians 1
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


You haven't been translated into the kingdom?

Are you untranslated, or mistranslated?
I mat be transsexual, but we are not in the kingdom. :D
 
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Daniel 2
32 This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,
33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.

Head of gold -- Babylon
Breast and arms of silver -- Medo-Persia
Belly and thighs of brass -- Greece
Legs and feet of iron and clay -- Rome

So who is/will be the Final Gentile World Ruler that completes the times of the gentiles ruling the world?
 
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So who is/will be the Final Gentile World Ruler that completes the times of the gentiles ruling the world?

I can identify the Final Divine World Ruler. His Kingdom is described in Daniel 2:44.

He is Messiah. His Kingdom was set up, and His Kingdom Rule began, at His first coming.

"In the days of these kings."
 
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I can identify the Final Divine World Ruler. His Kingdom is described in Daniel 2:44.

He is Messiah. His Kingdom was set up, and His Kingdom Rule began, at His first coming.

"In the days of these kings."

`And in the days of these kings...` (Dan. 2: 44)

So what `kings` is God referring to?
 
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Israel does not anoint him- that is a false teaching that you have learned from someone. You can't be a ruler who makes a covenant and then become the king. There is absolutely 0 in Scripture that the antichrist is from the line of David, nor is there any evidence that the ANtichrist is ever anointed King of Israel!
I never said Israel anoints XXXX. The false prophet will anoint XXXX the King of Israel.

XXXX is an abominable branch. Jesus is the righteous branch. Descended from David.

XXXX destroys his land and his people.

Isaiah 14:
18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Daniel 11:
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

He is killed and resurrected at the midpoint of the trib period. That is when he violates the temple and declares all out genocide against Jews and christians. this is when Jews flee to the rock city of Petra!
XXXX will be killed by strangers for going into the temple, sitting, claiming to be God. Ezekiel 28:1-10.

Not at the midpoint, but before then. At the Midpoint - "that is a false teaching that you have learned from someone" (to use your words).

The AoD is the statue image made of XXXX after XXXX has been killed and come back to life. Setup 1335 days before Jesus returns. On day 1185. day 1260 is the midpoint.

You are holding a false teaching regarding the mid-point, Nolidad, "that you have learned from someone" (to use your words).
 
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