My post stated the facts of Hebrews 11 and 12.
The definition of a witness is someone who watches or sees, not someone we watch. That is fact not opinion.
Its also fact that your interpretation of what Jesus said in Jn3v13 is proved completely false by the scriptures of people who went up to heaven before and after Jesus. Again scriptural fact, not opinion.
You clearly don't understand that all mankind from Adam onwards relied on Jesus to coming down as the basis of them going up to heaven.
And BTW, here's another one who went to heaven before his time and before Jesus came down.
Heb11v5By faith Enoch was translated not to see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him up.
Again fact, not opinion. Seems Enoch got the Elijah treatment, or maybe the other way around, but either way, they were both taken up to heaven which completely contradicts your posts. It is merely the body which dies, the spirit and soul is very much alive.
James2v26For just as the body apart from spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.
Take not, it does not say that the spirit without the body is dead. That's because its the spirit within the body which gives it life, and that life can exist when the body dies.
False preachers in ravening wolves clothing would have you believe that people go to heaven; which is a lie
for they are calling Christ a Liar:
John 3:13 And
no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
1 Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto;
whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
1 John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was taken up to heaven so that he did not see death; he was seen no longer, for God took him away: for before he was taken, witness had been given that he was well-pleasing to God:
2 Kings 2:11 And while they went on their way, going on talking together, suddenly there were carriages and horses of fire separating [from H995 בִּין A primitive root;
to separate mentally] them from one another and Elijah
departed aloft [ H8064 שָׁמֶה shaw-meh'] in a great wind. [alluding to the visible arch in which the clouds move]
If it was to mean Heaven it would have to be G3772 οὐρανός sky.
2 Kings 2:12 And when Elisha saw it he gave a cry, My father, my father, the carriages of Israel and its horsemen! And
he saw him no longer; and he was full of grief.
James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as
the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
good works are second acts, necessarily flowing from the life of faith; to which may be added, and by these faith
appears to be living, lively and active, or such who perform them appear to be true and living believers. [GILL]
Exodus 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel.
"who was
the Angel that spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai" [GILL]
Exodus 24:9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
"and the seventy elders were not all the elders of Israel, but were so many of them selected out of them, the chief and principal; who were heads of tribes and families, and were no doubt many, if not all of them, of those who by the advice of Jethro were chosen to be rulers of thousands, hundreds, and fifties;
these were called to come up to the Lord on the mountain, but not to the top of it, only Moses went thither: [GILL]
2 Corinthians 12:2 I have knowledge of a man in Christ, fourteen years back if he was in the body, or out of the body, I am not able to say, but God only, who was taken up to the third heaven.
"whether in the body or out of the body, and which he repeats and refers to the knowledge of God, clearly shows
he must mean himself; besides, it would otherwise have been no instance of any vision of his, nor would the rapture of another have at all affected his character, commendation, and praise, or given him any occasion of glorying as this did: though he did not choose to take it, as is clear by his saying that if he gloried of it he should not be a fool, yet forbore, lest others should entertain too high an opinion of him" [GILL]
John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 6:46
Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
Heaven on this earth!
Psalms 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
Psalms 37:11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Matthew 5:5 Blessed
are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Hebrews 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Psalms 132:13 For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation. 14 This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it.
Psalms 76:2 In Salem also is his tabernacle, and his dwelling place in Zion.
Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Micah 4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
Micah 4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Micah 4:3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Micah 4:4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.
Micah 4:5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.
Job 19:25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
