DarkSoul999
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Have you shared your observations and feelings about Christ with your pastoral team?
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Have you shared your observations and feelings about Christ with your pastoral team?
How could a God that created all things including creation create something more wonderful then Himself?Is God more wonderful, less wonderful or equally as wonderful as Creation?
God doesn’t say their is “evidence” per se as you seem to be speaking about.I'm open to evidence if you have any - and will change my belief if you provide sufficient evidence. Do you have any?
There is goodness everyday every where. You just choose not to see it.The Fall of Adam and Eve canceled out the evidence of goodness in creation.
If you can't imagine a better world then you must have an astonishingly easy privileged life...
Here is the reason people cannot believe scripture unless God allows them to believe:Hi! I'm new to these forums.
I was a Christian for many years and never gave it much intellectual thought. Over the last couple years, I started to use reason and logic to analyze the claims which were associated with Christianity as well as what is written in the Bible. Upon doing this, I came to the conclusion that much of what is written in the Bible is mythology. However, many of my good friends as well as my family still attend church and find being in the community so rewarding. I've tried to attend with them, as I don't want to lose the community aspect. But I feel guilty taking up space in the church when I don't believe any of what they're talking about.
The main reasons I can't accept it:
1) contradictions in the Bible
2) the Bible advocates slaughter and killing
3) the logical problems of omniscience, omnipotence and omnibenevolence
4) the mafia boss aspect of it (e.g. "if you don't believe this, you will rot in hell")
There is goodness everyday every where. You just choose not to see it.
When someone chooses forgiveness instead of revenge. When someone chooses life over abortion. When someone sees the advance of someone of the opposite sex but ignores it to be faithful to their spouse. When someone gives money they could have kept and spent to a charity.
Do I need to go on?
I see what your point is.I don't think we are even discussing the same topic.....
You are discussing people. People are a complicated topic. Let's start with the natural world in general before moving on to that.
Physical creation is a fallen mess. Matter is basically being flung about like it is in a pinball machine. This is why the natural world is cruel to us. This is why disease came into existence. Even natural disasters are the result of us unwisely being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It is almost impossible to avoid danger for a whole lifetime even now in the 21st century despite the fact that technology has made it far less common for many people.
I see what your point is.
Mine is the sun comes up every morning, the birds chirp, the seasons come and the seasons go, the world turns, there is air to breathe, water to drink, babies being born.
Thats all beauty in the natural world. Flowers bloom, leaves grow on the trees.
It's your perspective. Your looking for all the things that can or could go wrong. And you will find them and see them.
But God is in control. Not of the day to day stuff all over, but God has a will and when things get too bad, it will end.
Hi! I'm new to these forums.
I was a Christian for many years and never gave it much intellectual thought. Over the last couple years, I started to use reason and logic to analyze the claims which were associated with Christianity as well as what is written in the Bible. Upon doing this, I came to the conclusion that much of what is written in the Bible is mythology. However, many of my good friends as well as my family still attend church and find being in the community so rewarding. I've tried to attend with them, as I don't want to lose the community aspect. But I feel guilty taking up space in the church when I don't believe any of what they're talking about.
The main reasons I can't accept it:
1) contradictions in the Bible
2) the Bible advocates slaughter and killing
3) the logical problems of omniscience, omnipotence and omnibenevolence
4) the mafia boss aspect of it (e.g. "if you don't believe this, you will rot in hell")
I don’t believe that.You are just a very lucky person. There are a lot of people who have absolutely no escape from the torture and agony every single minute of every single day. They don't get to even contemplate the EXISTENCE of morning dew, chirping birds, etc because their neurons are firing off a pain response nonstop all day long. God is not going to stop any of that until he decides to flick the off switch on the entire world.
I don’t believe that.
Hi! I'm new to these forums.
I was a Christian for many years and never gave it much intellectual thought. Over the last couple years, I started to use reason and logic to analyze the claims which were associated with Christianity as well as what is written in the Bible.
Upon doing this, I came to the conclusion that much of what is written in the Bible is mythology.
However, many of my good friends as well as my family still attend church and find being in the community so rewarding. I've tried to attend with them, as I don't want to lose the community aspect. But I feel guilty taking up space in the church when I don't believe any of what they're talking about.
The main reasons I can't accept it:
1) contradictions in the Bible
2) the Bible advocates slaughter and killing
3) the logical problems of omniscience, omnipotence and omnibenevolence
4) the mafia boss aspect of it (e.g. "if you don't believe this, you will rot in hell")
Please do not answer this question if it makes you feel uncomfortable. But do you suffer from a mental illness?You are just a very lucky person. There are a lot of people who have absolutely no escape from the torture and agony every single minute of every single day. They don't get to even contemplate the EXISTENCE of morning dew, chirping birds, etc because their neurons are firing off a pain response nonstop all day long. God is not going to stop any of that until he decides to flick the off switch on the entire world.
Apart from in many Muslim countries (whose faith I suspect you reject), the only commandments that are written into law is commandment no.6, commandment no. 8, & commandment no. 9 (in a court of law only). That is only 3 of the 10 commandments. Based on your logic, that means that we SHOULD reject most of it!You do not have to embrace all the Ten Commandments to embrace Christian values. Many of the Ten Commandments have been put into "law" in every country on this planet regardless of the faith of that country. This alone should give you reason to hold that faith and not reject it.
At least in my view of things.
Ten Commandments
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
6. Thou shalt not kill. (murder)
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.
That is an excellent video & very thought provoking.There are lots of things which helped me arrive at those conclusions. It was not one single thing. Among them were the problem of evil, the problem of omniscience and that the actions of Christians didn't line up with their stated beliefs (e.g. going to great lengths to prolong their temporal life while saying that their eternal life is a better place). Here are some links which highlight these.
Invisible Pink Unicorn
Invisible Pink Unicorn
Please do not answer this question if it makes you feel uncomfortable. But do you suffer from a mental illness?
IF you have a doctor and health insurance there is no reason for you not to be evaluated.I used to think I had a mental illness but now I'm really starting to believe that I've been cursed by some cosmic force. That cosmic force is most likely Satan but it really appears like Satan is the absolute dominant force and God is just watching him do his work like it's some sort of gladiatorial match between a barbarian champion and a toddler.
It's not just feelings but very real tangible JINXES. I can't think of a single thing that I've ever attempted that wasn't obliterated by a series of unfortunate events happening at exactly the wrong place at the wrong time.
I no longer have any hope of ever having a normal life. What little hope I had left was annihilated last year and now it's just a countdown until death. I'll never get to have a family or be accepted by another human and even heaven is impossible to reach now because my soul is a shattered, nonfunctional wreck.
The only thing left to do is continue to work 70-80 hours per week until I have a heart attack and die. At least that way I'll be USEFUL towards those who are loved and blessed by God.