Jason0047 said:
But the context is talking about the Old Covenant because you could physically die by the hands of your own people (i.e. God's people). Jesus now teaches something different. He said he that is among you without sin, cast the first stone. So this is a new teaching. We are not to pick up stones anymore for those in the tribe of believers who may commit adultery. Paul instead told the Corinthians to kick that person out who committed sexual immorality. He did not say to pick up stones and kill this person. Spiritual death and not physical death. A person abides in spiritual death if they commit grievous sin.
NOPE! That has no truth in it whatsoever Jason. All through the OLD TESTAMENT and the NEW TESTAMENT scriptures teach that the wages of sin is death. It is not death only to those who have accepted the free gift of God's dear son (Romans 6:23). Who has chosen to die this death on our behalf as our sacrifice for sin (John 3:14-21). If the waged of sin is not death why did Jesus have to die on the cross for the sins of the world *1 JOHN 2:1-4?
Again, the context is talking about the Law of Moses in 2 Corinthians 3:7.
"Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses’ face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end," (2 Corinthians 3:7) (ESV).
"For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life." (2 Corinthians 3:6).
The Law of Moses was a ministry of death and the letter killed in the Law of Moses was in the fact that it could put the Israelite to death physically by the hand of his own people (when the Old Covenant was in effect before the cross).
While it is true that Jesus paid the price for the majority of man's sins with His death physically so as to offer man the free gift of salvation and so that man can be responsible with that gift, this is in view of the fact that Jesus saves us from primarily spiritual death first and then eventual physical death (by preventing us from being cast into the Lake of Fire).
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The only thing that has changed here from the OLD COVENANT to the NEW is that we are not a part of the NATION of ISRAEL under the NEW COVENANT and the death penalty for sin is carried out by God at the 2nd coming * HEBREWS 10:26-27; 2 PETER 3:3-12; HEBREWS 6:4-8; ROMANS 6:23.
Hebrews 10:26-27 does not say that the Judgment takes place after the 2nd Coming. Please show me the exact wording that says that. I just don't see it.
2 Peter 3:7 at first glance could sound like it talking about the main Judgment taking place after Christ's return, but how then could Christ judge those who rebel against Him at the end of the Millennium? Are there going to be two judgments? Scripture says it is appointed unto men once to die, after this is the judgment and not judgments. So what is 2 Peter 3:7 saying? It is referring to the day of judgment upon ungodly men living at the time of Christ's return when He returns to execute His wrath upon them in battle. This will then be followed by the purification of this world by fire.
As for Hebrews 6:8:
This in no way gives us the timing of the Judgment or those cast into the Lake of Fire.
Okay. Romans 6:23 also does not give us the timing of the Judgment, either.
You said:
I suggest you read your bible.
Please do not patronize me by telling me to read the Bible.
It's not nice. I studied the Bible almost every day since 2010.
You said:
Now Jason all the posts sent to you have gone through each of your posts section by section and scripture by scripture. Some of those posts were long as your posts you sent were long. You do not have to reply to them if you do not wish to. At the very least you should prayerfully consider the content showing that why you have left CONTEXT out of your interpretation of the scriptures. I did spend a lot of my own time on those posts as a help to you. Ignoring God's WORD is the same as rejecting it.
If I refuse to listen to your spin on God's Word, it does not mean I reject God's Word. You are not the sole gatekeeper of God's Word. I do just fine studying, and praying over God's Word on my own without your help. There are things I know that you do not know about God's Word, just as I am sure there may be some things you may know. But I am not going to read everything you say because my time is limited and I don't agree with the majority of what you have to say with God's Word.
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Jason all you have proven is that you are not open to discussion or correction and not interested in looking at the scriptures found in God's WORD that disagree with your teachings.
I can say the same to you, but I wouldn't do that because such a situation does not apply. You are not my Pastor, or elder, etc. Then again, I believe we are living in the last days and finding a Pastor or elder that actually follows the teachings of Jesus like we see in the New Testament is extremely rare.
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May God help you brother as you continue to seek him through his Word.
Same to you.
Blessings to you in the Lord.