GOD'S WORD vs TRADITIONS OF MEN; Sabbath vs Sunday

[JLB777]

I love to tell them why. It is because the Sinai covenant ended when the new one began. That event took place at Calvary. Those who so not accept what Jesus did for all mankind are denying that Jesus had the power to fulfill, bring to an end, the Sinai covenant. Paul called that covenant the ministry of death and pointed out that it was a temporary covenant. It was the guide for one nation. Paul then points out that the temporary one has been replaced by the Holy Spirit within us and offered to every living soul. The writer of Hebrews clenches what Paul so eloquently wrote. We have a NEW AND BETTER covenant with better promises.

We have to present the truth and allow the Holy Spirit to work in them. That is how I was finally released from the bondage of Adventism.

Amen Brother.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

What a conundrum you pose. So, not one tittle or even a jot has passed away because Heaven and Earth hasn't. Lets get something straight before I get into this any deeper. Heaven and Earth passing away is a metaphor. Secondly Jesus was referring to all of the Law, 613 commands. So, what you are really saying is that none of the 613 have been fulfilled, which of course is not so. So, the real fact is that Jesus did fulfill the law and of course He said ALL be fulfilled.
all of the law is fulfilled 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. One or the other brother. Either none or all.

The Law of God to Israel was 613 laws friend. Just because the book was at the side of the arc does not make it inferior to the 10. It all came from God.


14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

If you meaning of forever in that verse means the Law then you better put the feast days on your calendar and bone up on all the Law.


Perfect does not mean eternal now does it LGW?


Again you shoot yourself in the foot LGW. By now it is a wonder you have any feet.. Trying to link the 10 being eternal has failed so far, but lets read on, maybe you will stumble on to something.


Ps111:7 The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure.

8 They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness.

You really have to answer this next question and you might as well do it now instead of having us ask over and over like you mostly do. Where it says all of His commandments which ones does He give you the privilege to not uphold? Remember he says they are all sure and stands forever and ever. Can I use that verse to tell me the 10 are forever and the remainder are culled? If so you win, I erred.


It was the standard for the now defunct Israel. It was never the standard for the Gentile nations.


I have heard enough. when one uses the words of Ellen White to describe the character of God as being the 10 commandments it makes me want to boil. Anyone that would reduce God's character to 10 commands is not thinking on their own. They are just mimicking or parroting the one that was brain damaged with a big rock and never recovered. There are not words to describe God's character. Yep, I have heard enough from you and Ellen. 2Cor3:7-11 still stands and transitory doesn't mean transfer.

Hello Bob,

All I see is your words. Did you have any scripture to share for your teachings? Or anything to add to the OP. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that brake the commandments of God.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[LoveGodsWord]

If you can you show me a scripture where Jesus or the Apostles, commanded the church to gather on the Sabbath, I will be glad to address your post. I won’t however address scriptures that do not teach that the Church is commanded to gather on the Sabbath. JLB

Yet here you are and cannot show where the Church is commanded not to keep God's 4th Commandment nor can you show any scripture that says God's 4th commandment is ABOLISHED or that we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

And here we see Jesus who is our example keeping the 4th Commandment Sabbath and all the Apostles keeping God's 4th Commandment. Not to mention Paul who kept the Sabbath well after the death of Jesus with both Jews and Gentiles.

Now we know God's WORD teaches if we break ANY ONE of God's 10 Commandments we stand before God guilty of SIN (James 2:8-12) and that those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN (Hebrews 10:26-27; 6:4-8; 1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 3:3-10).

As there is NO scripture in all of God's WORD that says that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED are you not worried about standing before God come judgement day?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Bob S]

Hello Bob,

All I see is your words. Did you have any scripture to share for your teachings? Or anything to add to the OP. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that brake the commandments of God.

All you see ARE my words? Then answer my words. I , may BREAK commands, but I do not BREAK the ones given at Sinai because they have been negated.

Instead of chastising me for not using scripture that you know very well what I am writing about why not just give a reason why I am wrong. All I see IS your broken record.

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Bob S]

LGW, I presented to you the International Date Line a while back and informed you that the Sabbath that God gave to Israel at Sinai starting a sundown at the end of the 6th day at Sinai and the proceeding around the Globe and starting several hours later in Australia. Now, because of the IDL the Sabbath starts very close to Australia and proceeds around the Globe. You are not worshipping the intended hours God set forth at Sinai. How can you keep the Sabbath Holy when you worship it the wrong hours??? If Adventism is correct and there is a Halo around the Sabbath command and you knowingly do not correct the Holy time what does that do to you. Are you any better off than I am? Will God "wink" when you have the truth about the time and do not do something about it?

 

[JLB777]

Yet here you are and cannot show where the Church is commanded not to keep God's 4th Commandment nor can you show any scripture that says God's 4th commandment is ABOLISHED or that we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

The scriptures are clear about observing one day over another.

If a people want to gather and worship on Saturday or Wednesday or Sunday, each person should be convinced in the own mind.


One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike.Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. Romans 14:5


So I’m not the one claiming people are commanded to gather on a specific day, you are.

I have shown from the scriptures where my belief comes from.


Now it’s your to post one scripture for all of us to examine, that shows us that Jesus or the Apostles commanded the Church to gather on the Sabbath to worship Jesus.



JLB

 

[LoveGodsWord]

The scriptures are clear about observing one day over another.

If a people want to gather and worship on Saturday or Wednesday or Sunday, each person should be convinced in the own mind.


One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike.Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. Romans 14:5


So I’m not the one claiming people are commanded to gather on a specific day, you are.

I have shown from the scriptures where my belief comes from.


Now it’s your to post one scripture for all of us to examine, that shows us that Jesus or the Apostles commanded the Church to gather on the Sabbath to worship Jesus.



JLB

Really now JBL ?

Where does it say in all of Romans 14 or for that matter all of the bible that God's 4th Commandment which is one of the 10 Commandments that defines what sin is has been abolished and we no longer need to keep it as a Holy day?

The topic of Romans 14 is not the Sabbath vs Sunday it is food connected to Holy days, eating and not eating.

Your reading into the scriptures something it is not even talking about.

Please provide the scriptures that say we are not to meet on God's Sabbath. God's 4th commandment has already been given by God to his people along with all the other 10 Commandments and define what sin is.

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[JLB777]

Really now JBL ?

Where does it say in all of Romans 14 or for that matter all of the bible that God's 4th Commandment which is one of the 10 Commandments that defines what sin is has been abolished and we no longer need to keep it as a Holy day?

The topic of Romans 14 is not the Sabbath vs Sunday it is food connected to Holy days, eating and not eating.

Your reading into the scriptures something it is not even talking about.

Please provide the scriptures that say we are not to meet on God's Sabbath. God's 4th commandment has already been given by God to his people along with all the other 10 Commandments and define what sin is.

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

I quoted my scripture that shows it up to each of us to observe which days we decide to gather.


Now it’s your turn to post a scripture that shows Jesus commanded the Church to gather on the Sabbath.

So far, no scriptures have been presented by you from the Lord Jesus or His Apostles that comnand the Church to gather on the Sabbath to worship.


It really looks like you have been deceived into believing a false doctrine because you have no scripture to validate your man made claim.


JLB

 

[JLB777]

Where does it say in all of Romans 14 or for that matter all of the bible that God's 4th Commandment which is one of the 10 Commandments that defines what sin is has been abolished and we no longer need to keep it as a Holy day?

You obviously must be blind and can’t read English.

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike.Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. Romans 14:5

Is the Sabbath a day, or not?



JLB

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I quoted my scripture that shows it up to each of us to observe which days we decide to gather.

Now it’s your turn to post a scripture that shows Jesus commanded the Church to gather on the Sabbath.

So far, no scriptures have been presented by you from the Lord Jesus or His Apostles that comnand the Church to gather on the Sabbath to worship.


It really looks like you have been deceived into believing a false doctrine because you have no scripture to validate your man made claim.

JLB

Yet NOPE nothing you have quoted says Romans 14 is in reference to the Sabbath day? Where does it say in God's WORD that his 4th Commandments is now Abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You obviously must be blind and can’t read English.

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike.Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. Romans 14:5

Is the Sabbath a day, or not?

JLB

Now JBL there is no need to be unfriendly. I have made no personal attacks on you only asked you where does it say God's 4th Commandment is ABOLISHED. You have provided no scripture or did I expect you to as there is NO scripture that says this.

Now If there is NO scripture that says God's 4th Commandments is ABOLISHED you should be warned that Gods 4th commandment is one of the 10 Commandments that give us a KNOWLEDGE of what sin is and the wages of SIN is death to those who continue in it by rejecting the gift of God's dear son.

How can you feel free to disregard God's 4th Commandment, when God's WORD say that those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT ENTER the KINGDOM of HEAVEN?

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[LoveGodsWord]

LGW, I presented to you the International Date Line a while back and informed you that the Sabbath that God gave to Israel at Sinai starting a sundown at the end of the 6th day at Sinai and the proceeding around the Globe and starting several hours later in Australia. Now, because of the IDL the Sabbath starts very close to Australia and proceeds around the Globe. You are not worshipping the intended hours God set forth at Sinai. How can you keep the Sabbath Holy when you worship it the wrong hours??? If Adventism is correct and there is a Halo around the Sabbath command and you knowingly do not correct the Holy time what does that do to you. Are you any better off than I am? Will God "wink" when you have the truth about the time and do not do something about it?

Sorry Bob, this will not help you either. God's WORD is very clear as to when the Sabbath starts as it is written in Genesis a day in God's time starts from evening to evening (night and day = one day).

God's WORD says the SEVENTH DAY is the Sabbath so that is Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. The rest of your post has no truth in it and only your own words, accept the last part of your post which I agree with and well said (after the dotted line) ...

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[JLB777]

Yet NOPE nothing you have quoted says Romans 14 is in reference to the Sabbath day?

Is the Sabbath a day that you esteem over other days?

It’s a yes or no question?


One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it.
Romans 14:5-6

Where does it say in God's WORD that his 4th Commandments is now Abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

As I said before, I don’t advocate the keeping of Sunday.


What has changed is how we keep the Sabbath. Under the law of Moses there were specific ordinances that were to be observed.


Do you observe the Sabbath according to the law of Moses?


I didn’t think so.


Now we must find what Jesus and the Apostles commanded as to how to keep the Sabbath, under grace, rather than how it was kept, under the law of Moses.


Since you have no scriptures, from the New Testament that commands the Church to gather on The Sabbath, then you have simply become just another false teacher, promoting a man made theology, whose focus is on telling everyone that they have to gather on the Sabbath, rather than any other day of the week, or they will go to hell.



11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 1:11-17

• So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths

You have no scriptural proof of any command anywhere in the New Testament to gather on the Sabbath.


You must repent of promoting heresy, or you will not inherit the kingdom of God.



JLB

 

[Bob S]

Sorry Bob, this will not help you either. God's WORD is very clear as to when the Sabbath starts as it is written in Genesis a day in God's time starts from evening to evening (night and day = one day).

God's WORD says the SEVENTH DAY is the Sabbath so that is Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. The rest of your post has no truth in it and only your own words,

Got your head in the sand LGW. I presented the real truth about where Australia stands concerning the IDL and all you are able to come up with is the above comment??? How about telling me where I am wrong instead of indicating that I am a liar. If you are correct and I have lied the the least you could do is inform me how it is a lie. It appears you are losing credibility by being so evasive.

Bob S wrote and LGW evaded

All you see ARE my words? Then answer my words. I may BREAK commands, but I do not BREAK the ones given at Sinai because they have been negated.

Instead of chastising me for not using scripture that you know very well what I am writing about why not just give a reason why I am wrong. All I see IS your broken record.

Just a reminder that you evaded answering posts 1055, 1059 and 1060. Telling me it isn't true Bob is not an answer. You need to tell us where and why I am writing falsehood. When you do and it is not disputable I will have to stop presenting it. That should solve your, now, thorn in the side.

 

[listed]

Yet here you are and cannot show where the Church is commanded not to keep God's 4th Commandment nor can you show any scripture that says God's 4th commandment is ABOLISHED or that we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

Where is the verse in the NT making the sabbath an obligation of the Christian?

And here we see Jesus who is our example keeping the 4th Commandment Sabbath and all the Apostles keeping God's 4th Commandment. Not to mention Paul who kept the Sabbath well after the death of Jesus with both Jews and Gentiles.

Why are you issuing a call to a form of Judaism?

Now we know God's WORD teaches if we break ANY ONE of God's 10 Commandments we stand before God guilty of SIN (James 2:8-12) and that those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN (Hebrews 10:26-27; 6:4-8; 1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 3:3-10).

Where in the NT is the law taught as a requirement for Christians?

As there is NO scripture in all of God's WORD that says that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED are you not worried about standing before God come judgement day?

Only because you are looking for exact words. Jeremiah 31:32 has been put before your eyes more than once.

 

[listed]

Yet NOPE nothing you have quoted says Romans 14 is in reference to the Sabbath day? Where does it say in God's WORD that his 4th Commandments is now Abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

So you continue to deny what the Scripture plainly says. Nothing new.

 

[The7thColporteur]

... I presented the real truth about where Australia stands concerning the IDL ...

I am going to be posting soon on the IDL in a new thread, feel free to read through it at that time.

 

[listed]

Now JBL there is no need to be unfriendly. I have made no personal attacks on you only asked you where does it say God's 4th Commandment is ABOLISHED. You have provided no scripture or did I expect you to as there is NO scripture that says this.

Now If there is NO scripture that says God's 4th Commandments is ABOLISHED you should be warned that Gods 4th commandment is one of the 10 Commandments that give us a KNOWLEDGE of what sin is and the wages of SIN is death to those who continue in it by rejecting the gift of God's dear son.

How can you feel free to disregard God's 4th Commandment, when God's WORD say that those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT ENTER the KINGDOM of HEAVEN?

Then you have a very real daunting personal problem.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Is the Sabbath a day that you esteem over other days?

It’s a yes or no question?


One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it.
Romans 14:5-6





As I said before, I don’t advocate the keeping of Sunday.


What has changed is how we keep the Sabbath. Under the law of Moses there were specific ordinances that were to be observed.


Do you observe the Sabbath according to the law of Moses?


I didn’t think so.


Now we must find what Jesus and the Apostles commanded as to how to keep the Sabbath, under grace, rather than how it was kept, under the law of Moses.


Since you have no scriptures, from the New Testament that commands the Church to gather on The Sabbath, then you have simply become just another false teacher, promoting a man made theology, whose focus is on telling everyone that they have to gather on the Sabbath, rather than any other day of the week, or they will go to hell.



11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 1:11-17

• So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths

You have no scriptural proof of any command anywhere in the New Testament to gather on the Sabbath.

You must repent of promoting heresy, or you will not inherit the kingdom of God.


JLB

Well No JBL none of that says that God's 4th commandment is ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY DAY now does it?

The key componant to your message is that you can keep 9 Commandments and break the 4th Commandment. Yet it is God's WORD that says that if we break ANY ONE of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God in SIN (James 2:8-12).

All those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT ENTER the KINGDOM of HEAVEN (Hebrews 10:26-27)

You still have not answered the questions; where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment is ABOLISHED. You have provided no scripture or did I expect you to as there is NO scripture that says this.

Now If there is NO scripture that says God's 4th Commandments is ABOLISHED you should be warned that Gods 4th commandment is one of the 10 Commandments that give us a KNOWLEDGE of what sin is and the wages of SIN is death to those who continue in it by rejecting the gift of God's dear son.

How can you feel free to disregard God's 4th Commandment, when God's WORD say that those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT ENTER the KINGDOM of HEAVEN?

Not looking good for some come judgement day when sin is the transgression of God's LAW and the wages of sin is death.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

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Got your head in the sand LGW. I presented the real truth about where Australia stands concerning the IDL and all you are able to come up with is the above comment??? How about telling me where I am wrong instead of indicating that I am a liar. If you are correct and I have lied the the least you could do is inform me how it is a lie. It appears you are losing credibility by being so evasive.

Bob S wrote and LGW evaded


Just a reminder that you evaded answering posts 1055, 1059 and 1060. Telling me it isn't true Bob is not an answer. You need to tell us where and why I am writing falsehood. When you do and it is not disputable I will have to stop presenting it. That should solve your, now, thorn in the side.

Hello Bob nice to see you ,

Now Bob, none of that is true is it? I have not evaded any of your posts that have scripture. I have ignored the ones that are just your words that do not have any basis in truth or God's WORD.

I have already answered all your posts with scripture that disagrees with you. You are free to follow your own religion. I do not judge you. Your salvation is between you and God.

If you believe you have posted scripture that I have not addressed post it up. Maybe I missed it and let's discuss it. However, I do expect you to respond to my posts and the scriptures and questions in them and not ignore them like you normally do.

Simply saying something is wrong when you have no scripture to support your teaching while ignoring the scriptures that disagree with your teaching does not make it so because you say so. This is simply stating your words over God's WORD.

Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the traditions and teachings of men that break the commandments of God.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).