Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 type events.

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

It is between the sixteen minutes..... to twenty two minute mark.... most relevant part starts at eighteen minutes.....

There's no corroboration there, just a Jewish guy telling a story about a dream he had.

 

[DennisTate]

There's no corroboration there, just a Jewish guy telling a story about a dream he had.

This is a free country.....
you can understand it that way if you wish......
but from twenty seven years of researching NDE accounts and getting myself kicked out of two churches that taught a dogmatic Soul Sleep doctrine.........
I take his account very, very, very seriously!

This verse in the Catholic Bible is not a scripture to laugh at:

Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, Baruch Chapter 6

6] For my angel is with you: And I myself will demand an account of your souls."
(Baruch 6:6)

Hebrews 9:27

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

This is a free country.....
you can understand it that way if you wish......
but from twenty seven years of researching NDE accounts and getting myself kicked out of two churches that taught a dogmatic Soul Sleep doctrine.........
I take his account very, very, very seriously!

It makes no difference to me how seriously you take his story.

I originally asked, "Do we have corroboration of this from those individuals?"
You replied "Do a search and see..... . I don't think you will find it boring"
I then specifically asked you to, "give a link to the video and point me to the time in the video where those individuals corroborate the story."

You gave a link to the video and pointed me to the time when he makes those uncorroborated claims.

You could have just said, "no, there's no corroboration" and saved me this guy's boring dream story. That's the thing about dreams, they're generally only interesting to the dreamer and his psychiatrist.

Timewaster and major fail.

 

[Kaon]

Now my idea is that G-d is actually more powerful than that..... and is capable of initiating multiple time lines..... and the one that we are in at this instant...... is new..... and has never happened before...... and is being determined by our decisions.............. and significantly by the thoughts and prayers of people who do pray...............

In the gnostics and apocrypha, this "timeline" you speak of are called aeons/days/ages. This physical is a projection of the foundational aeon - the Heaven in which the Most High God resides. What is happening is new to us, but fortunately for us is also illusionary with respect to happenstance. This may or may not be a new iteration; either way, the Most High God is about unity.


I would say the entity in control of the chaos realms would be the one to gain the most by having this iteration be fundamentally different than the one in which it is kicked out of its first estate, and forced to Chaos.

I believe that time is an invention.... comparable in some ways to a bicycle, or car, or ship or jet...... it was designed to take souls...... both angels as well as humans........ from point A to point B. ... spiritually , mentally and emotionally...........

Yes, time is a way for entities to understand action. it is a "phantom" measure; we are not actually measuring time, but changes in events. How do you know how much time has passed if nothing has changed? This is why etermity is one of the most confusing things to entities like us; we are categorically subjected to subtle changes in events (minute changes times.)

Here is an example of a scripture that indicates that time was invented.........

Mark 2:27

"And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"

And, in fact, time itself did not exist until He had to separate darkness from light. Guess what He made before time?

I have read what may be anecdotal evidence that indicates non-linear time...... applied Multiverse theory..........

... and this evidence that many, many time lines that include 2018 may already have taken place...... but I am certain that what is being done now is new............ and obviously far, far, far, far better than what Dannion Brinkley was shown back in 1975......




Revelation 13:17

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

So basically..... in 1975... Dannion was shown a pretty scary future series of events.... that do overlap our time line somewhat... .but differ significantly and the "mark of the beast" that he was shown has been delayed and delayed and delayed..... in our immeditate time line/ example of applied Multiverse Theory...... example of Ezekiel 37......... because all of us in a sense have been resurrected / replicated in this new time line... if that is what Dannion's vision of the future was really all about......

I am 100% apprehensive about multiverse theory, because I feel it will be part of a deception. But, it does have merit very interesting connotations to the world spiritual climate. I do believe there are alternatives to "space-time," but I would call these dimensions.

Take everything "fantastically scoffable;" this entity to come will be all of those things, and more - so much so that if it was possible sealed people of God would this this beast is a real god. And, the tricks this entity exploits will get a lot of people on its side - I think because no one believes in aything, so it will easy to give them something to believe in.

 

[Kaon]

This is a free country.....
you can understand it that way if you wish......
but from twenty seven years of researching NDE accounts and getting myself kicked out of two churches that taught a dogmatic Soul Sleep doctrine.........
I take his account very, very, very seriously!

This verse in the Catholic Bible is not a scripture to laugh at:

Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, Baruch Chapter 6

6] For my angel is with you: And I myself will demand an account of your souls."
(Baruch 6:6)

Hebrews 9:27

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"

Yes. This will be one of the entity's possible exploits: apparent resurrection.

In fact, it is a completely different phenomenon altogether - and a very old one at that. It is appointed to man to die once, then judgment. (Think about this in context of familiar spirits/ghosts.)

 

[DennisTate]

In the gnostics and apocrypha, this "timeline" you speak of are called aeons/days/ages. This physical is a projection of the foundational aeon - the Heaven in which the Most High God resides. What is happening is new to us, but fortunately for us is also illusionary with respect to happenstance. This may or may not be a new iteration; either way, the Most High God is about unity.


I would say the entity in control of the chaos realms would be the one to gain the most by having this iteration be fundamentally different than the one in which it is kicked out of its first estate, and forced to Chaos.



Yes, time is a way for entities to understand action. it is a "phantom" measure; we are not actually measuring time, but changes in events. How do you know how much time has passed if nothing has changed? This is why etermity is one of the most confusing things to entities like us; we are categorically subjected to subtle changes in events (minute changes times.)



And, in fact, time itself did not exist until He had to separate darkness from light. Guess what He made before time?



I am 100% apprehensive about multiverse theory, because I feel it will be part of a deception. But, it does have merit very interesting connotations to the world spiritual climate. I do believe there are alternatives to "space-time," but I would call these dimensions.

Take everything "fantastically scoffable;" this entity to come will be all of those things, and more - so much so that if it was possible sealed people of God would this this beast is a real god. And, the tricks this entity exploits will get a lot of people on its side - I think because no one believes in aything, so it will easy to give them something to believe in.

One of the strange implications of Multiverse Theory perhaps connecting with Ezekiel 37 would be the possibility of multiple versions of each of us when the years between our conception and deaths....... are replicated??????

One of the questions that I personally have regarding what was made before time....... would be how many energetic dimensions would have to exist previous to our needing to use the word......"space"....... ?

I assume that Intelligence began in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy...... later on the tenth space time dimensional energy was invent..... then later on ninth.... then later on eighth.... then later on seventh...... then later on sixth...... the later on fifth...... and then perahaps around 13.72 billion years ago fourth dimensional space and time.......... but time in some form should probably have existed before then??????

I am no physicist..... my only partial handle on this is philosophical....

(Post #55 in this discussion has a good quotation related to that)....

Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 type events.

 

[DennisTate]

Sooner or later both you and I are going to have either a near death experience..... or a full fledged death experience..... and what we consider to be a waste of time under the circumstances that we are in this week....... could by that time be understood to have been an excellent investment of time.

Here is what I personally consider to be corroboration for the theme of Rabbi Alon Anava's video, (which by the way I listened to about 2/3 of it again after finding the link for you because I felt it was definitely worth another hour or so of my time.)

John 5:45

"Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust."

Those moments..... or hours..... or days.... or weeks.... whatever we spend in Life Review....... can be easier if we accept the substitutionary sacrifice on our behalf..... of Messiah the Passover Lamb but........ if Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus had an NDE or something like it in Matthew chapter 4........ then perhaps Rabbi Alon Anava could do a better job of explaining some of the statements of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus in Matthew chapter 5...... than many Christians might do.

Mat 5:17

¶
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

It makes no difference to me how seriously you take his story.

I originally asked, "Do we have corroboration of this from those individuals?"
You replied "Do a search and see..... . I don't think you will find it boring"
I then specifically asked you to, "give a link to the video and point me to the time in the video where those individuals corroborate the story."

You gave a link to the video and pointed me to the time when he makes those uncorroborated claims.

You could have just said, "no, there's no corroboration" and saved me this guy's boring dream story. That's the thing about dreams, they're generally only interesting to the dreamer and his psychiatrist.

Timewaster and major fail.

 

[RealityCheck01]

...He sounds accurate to me..... am I incorrect to think that?

You are wrong to think that a "Power of Positive Thinking" video is science.
What Kaon wrote in that post and repeats later is non-science word salad unrelated to time or space as used in science.

26 April 2018 Kaon: Unsupported "nonsense" about time being not a dimension/an operator/arbitrary when time is a dimension, is not an operator and is specific.
26 April 2018 Kaon: Cite your sources for "coupling of space (with respect to the metric,) and the action"
26 April 2018 Kaon: Cite your sources for "coupled to a real "spacial" dimension(s) in field theory".

 

[RealityCheck01]

One of the strange implications of Multiverse Theory perhaps connecting with Ezekiel 37 would...

The implication actually would be this is a lie about Ezekiel 37 when anyone can read that it is not about the multiverse.

22 April 2018 DennisTate: Your friend was at least misleading and seems deluded about Ezekiel 37 ("a vision of the resurrection of dry bones").

 

[Sammy-San]

An online friend of mine posted an explanation in the language of high level theoretical physics that fits extremely well with the idea that Ezekiel chapter 37 is not limited to being a one time event but instead may occur again and again and again as G-d leads all Israel and all the world closer and closer to the time spoken of by Paul......

Romans 11:32....."For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all."

https://crossexamined.org/god-or-multiverse/

 

[DennisTate]

https://crossexamined.org/god-or-multiverse/

Personally... I think that G-d has gotten better and better and better at creation.... and has designed the Multiverse.......
to save many of those who got lost in other time lines.

 

[Sammy-San]

Personally... I think that G-d has gotten better and better and better at creation.... and has designed the Multiverse.......
to save many of those who got lost in other time lines.

There's no proof its true.

 

[DennisTate]

There's no proof its true.

But there is evidence.........
and all of us have the freedom of choice to take that evidence more or less seriously.... the near death experience of little Colton Burpo is a great place to start your research..... in my opinion.

I consider him to be a highly credible witness...... you may disagree...... that is your choice.
Friends of yours watch Heaven Is For Real and ask you about it?

 

[RealityCheck01]

But there is evidence...

28 May 2018 DennisTate: A lie of evidence that "G-d has gotten better and better and better at creation" and created the multiverse.
The possibly fraudulent, near death experience of a three year old child is not evidence for your assertions. A three year old child is not a reliable witness in any reasonable eyes. Add that his father is a pastor and we have an easily influenced child. Colton Burpo stated child-like fantasies such as Jesus riding a rainbow-colored horse. There is no medical evidence of he was clinically dead during the surgery.

The evangelical book industry is dubious. The boy who didn't come back from heaven: inside a bestseller's 'deception'

Alex Malarkey co-wrote a bestselling book about a near-death experience – and then last week admitted he made it up. So why wasn’t anyone listening to a quadriplegic boy and a mother who simply wanted the truth to be heard?

22 April 2018 DennisTate: Your friend was at least misleading and seems deluded about Ezekiel 37 ("a vision of the resurrection of dry bones").

 

[DennisTate]

Attempts to find sub-atomic physics in the pages of the Bible make me cringe.

At the one hour and ten minute mark in this video
Lance Wallnau Ph. D. does a good job of summarizing
one valid angle on this.

 

[DennisTate]

28 May 2018 DennisTate: A lie of evidence that "G-d has gotten better and better and better at creation" and created the multiverse.
The possibly fraudulent, near death experience of a three year old child is not evidence for your assertions. A three year old child is not a reliable witness in any reasonable eyes. Add that his father is a pastor and we have an easily influenced child. Colton Burpo stated child-like fantasies such as Jesus riding a rainbow-colored horse. There is no medical evidence of he was clinically dead during the surgery.

The evangelical book industry is dubious. The boy who didn't come back from heaven: inside a bestseller's 'deception'


22 April 2018 DennisTate: Your friend was at least misleading and seems deluded about Ezekiel 37 ("a vision of the resurrection of dry bones").

and also......

Luke 18:8

"I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"

 

[RealityCheck01]

and also......

28 May 2018 DennisTate: A lie of evidence that "G-d has gotten better and better and better at creation" and created the multiverse.

18 June 2018 DennisTate: An irrelevant (not about multiverses) Bible quote not addressing his lie.

 

[DennisTate]

28 May 2018 DennisTate: A lie of evidence that "G-d has gotten better and better and better at creation" and created the multiverse.

18 June 2018 DennisTate: An irrelevant (not about multiverses) Bible quote not addressing his lie.

The question of whether or not there will be faith on the earth.......
can also be quantified..... could Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in his present form.... .
resurrect all humans who ever lived without breaking a sweat?

"You seek to know and walk in My Power so that you can heal the sick and perform miracles, but you have not even begun to comprehend the power of My word. To resurrect all the dead who have ever lived on earth will not even cause me to strain. I uphold all things by the power of My word. The creation exists because of My word, and it is held together by My word." (Rick Joyner, page 176, The Vision)

 

[RealityCheck01]

and also...

28 May 2018 DennisTate: A lie of evidence that "G-d has gotten better and better and better at creation" and created the multiverse.

22 April 2018 DennisTate: Your friend was at least misleading and seems deluded about Ezekiel 37 ("a vision of the resurrection of dry bones").

18 June 2018 DennisTate: An irrelevant (not about multiverses) Bible quote not addressing his lie.

 

[RealityCheck01]

The question of faith ...

9 July 2018 DennisTate: An irrelevant "question of faith" post not addressing his lie.
28 May 2018 DennisTate: A lie of evidence that "G-d has gotten better and better and better at creation" and created the multiverse.

22 April 2018 DennisTate: Your friend was at least misleading and seems deluded about Ezekiel 37 ("a vision of the resurrection of dry bones").

18 June 2018 DennisTate: An irrelevant (not about multiverses) Bible quote not addressing his lie.