jgr,
1. You are wrong.
Paul was talking about the whole nation when he said he had not cast away his people.
The reason always has gone on because they had a remnant.
2. 2 Samuel 7:13-16; David's house and throne would be established forever.
If Israel committed sin they would chasten Israel with the rod of men and with the stripes of the children of men.
This has happened in Israel's history; Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. This is a fact!!!
The Revised Roman Empire and the Antichrist are to come to which Daniel 2 & 7 and Revelation 12 & 13 and 17 which is the 7th Kingdom and the 8th.
Going back to 2 Samuel 7:15; But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul whol I put away before them.
Verse 16: And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established forever before thee: thy throne shall be established forever.
1 Chronicles 28:1-8; the same message.
Verse 9 God said said he would cast off Solomon forever if he forsook God.
Though Solomon had done great things he also failed towards the end. An accommodation was made and God would take the kingdom away from Solomon's son Rehoboam. This accommodation was to David not Solomon.
This point is made all through Chronicles. God was going to keep the Davidic Covenant forever.
3. God talked about desolating the nation but always would eventually heal them. Read the book of Hosea and the unfaithful wife.
Hosea 6 talks about God having torn Israel but how God will heal them. After 2 days he will revive and raise them up on the third day and live in his sight.
This and the early and latter rain upon the earth is prophetic to Israel, not the church.
Ezekiel 37:24 is prophetic to David being King over Israel when Israel and Judah are joined together as one stick foreve, not the church.
The true church has never, is not now and never will be divided and do not have to Repent so they can be healed. This is why replacement theology is an abomination of hermeneutics and rightly dividing the word.
4. Revelation 12: 14 shows Israel being preservered in the wilderness for the time of Jacob's trouble. Verse 17 the believing remnant are scattered.
I have already explained Hebrews 8 that the New Covenant will be made with Israel and Judah and God will forgive them of their sin and not through the church's testimony but because they will see him come and mourn which means to Repent when they see the one whom they had pierced Revelation 1:7.
5. Christ will come back to the Mt. of Olives Zechariah 14:4, with his saints who are the church saints as well as Old Testament saints and the tribulation saints that were resurrected and were in Heaven who are all at the Marriage of the Lamb Revelation 19:7-10.
6. The fact is you have to admit Israel of ethnic Jews will be one nation with Judah with David as King according to Ezekiel 37:16-28.
God promised it to his house and the throne forever.
Christ promised the church mansions in his Father's house which is in Heaven.
It will also be that the church will have positions of authority on earth throughout the earth.
Gentiles can live in Jerusalem and will Zechariah 14:11 but the promise was made to the ethnic Jew who Christ was born as.
So why do you fight so hard against the real truth. You have to run through hoops and make up doctrines etc.
I almost believe you and Berean both believe because the church includes Jews and Gentiles are the church today the Kingdom has to be the same, otherwise God is being a respect of persons.
Now you may not be anti-Semitic but the Catholic Church believes this and they are more apt to be accused of anti-Semitism because they believe the are the only church etc.
Why should you care if the ethnic Jewish nation is at the head of the nations when God promised it to them according to their earthly calling?
Romans 3:1-2 is why Israel will always be relevant to the land and throne in the KoH reign promises. Jerry kelso
Jerry,
Romans 11:1-2
“His people which He foreknew” is clearly related to:
Romans 8
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
This is an unmistakable description of the believer. There is no mention of or implication involving unbelieving Israel in these verses or anywhere in the entire chapter.
1 Peter 1:2
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Here God's foreknowledge identifies the elect, who within the New Testament are exclusively believers.
You can quote OT promises ad infinitum, but unless they are repeated within the NT, they are revoked, nullified, and voided under the legal and scriptural definitions and descriptions of a Will and Testament.
All OT promises must be judged in the NT context; everlasting, eternal, and forever; included.
Numbers 25
11 Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, hath turned my wrath away from the children of Israel, while he was zealous for my sake among them, that I consumed not the children of Israel in my jealousy.
12 Wherefore say, Behold, I give unto him my covenant of peace:
13 And he shall have it, and his seed after him, even the covenant of an everlasting priesthood; because he was zealous for his God, and made an atonement for the children of Israel.
Has Phineas' seed continued as OT everlasting priests, or has Christ our great NT High Priest superseded them?
Romans 3:1-2 describes the Old Covenant advantages enjoyed by the Jews, which should have translated into their grateful reception of the New Covenant, but did not. Paul cites no New Covenant advantages which they could claim, and reinforces their status before God in v.29.
You need to get with the program in God's New Will and Testament.
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