Christian Nudists

[bugkiller]

does the bible never say its both?

What about the comment about the Image of God? I've found other sites say similar claims.

Are you interested in what the Bible has to say or more interested in what others say about the Bible? What others have to say about the Bible is religious trash protecting their lively hood. They care about their pocket book, not your soul. They need you under control and in their bondage.

bugkiller

 

[Sammy-San]

About women having nothing of the image of God? Not at all. The Gen 1 verse I quoted says the exact opposite.

And beyond that, most of the OT descriptions of the Father are in feminine terms. the most obvious one is El Shaddai - with "shad" being the Hebrew for breast. I suppose a very literal translation would be something like "God - my breast." Of course it is an idiom meaning the all sufficient one like a mother being all the nutritional needs for her newborn. But the image of a nursing woman is an image of God supplying us with what we need.

So I ask you - do you take it that women "have absolutely nothing to do with the nature and appearance of God?"

Feminist theology teaches that there is a feminine side to God-the Bible presents him in a masculine way.

 

[Dave-W]

Feminist theology teaches that there is a feminine side to God-the Bible presents him in a masculine way.

Christian interpretation presents HIM in a masculine way. The actual text is more balanced.

 

[Sammy-San]

Christian interpretation presents HIM in a masculine way. The actual text is more balanced.

Bible view women - creation.com

The male imagery used to depict God is fundamentally different from the female similes found in Scripture. God may be like a mother in certain aspects, but He is Father; Jesus prayed to Him as Father and taught His disciples to do the same (Matt 6:9). The Second Person of the Trinity, Jesus Christ, became incarnate as a man, not a woman, and Jesus referred to the Holy Spirit with the pronoun “He” (John 14:16–17). These are not similes or metaphors, but teaching regarding the very nature of God and how He relates to His creation, and how the members of the Godhead relate to each other.

 

[Dave-W]

That is all christian interpretation.

 

[Sammy-San]

That is all christian interpretation.

Are you saying calling God Mother is biblical?

 

[Dave-W]

Are you saying calling God Mother is biblical?

No. But it is scriptural to say that God can be as nurturing as a mother.

 

[Darkhorse]

I realize that I'm stretching the boundaries for some people, but consider these hypotheticals:

1) You are alone at a pool, or pond, or lake, or creek.
No one is around, and no one is likely to appear.
You are not in view of the public.
It's a hot day and you would like to swim, but you have no swimsuit with you.
Assuming you would consider swimming alone (a safety issue), would you consider swimming there nude?

2) Same situation as above, but a same-sex friend is there with you.
Would you consider swimming there nude with your friend?

3) Same situation as above, but your spouse is there with you.
Would you consider swimming there nude with your spouse?

In each case, how does Christianity influence your decision?

 

[Sammy-San]

I can understand euphemisms, discreet drawings, etc.

But the idea of teaching that Adam and Eve were not naked after all is eisegesis - putting into the text - rather than exegesis - getting the meaning out of the text.

Isn't exegesis a type of eisegesis?

 

[faroukfarouk]

Isn't exegesis a type of eisegesis?

No, exegesis is bringing out clearly the meaning that is already in the text; eisegesis is putting meaning into the text that isn't there (politicians and unfaithful preachers do it all the time).

 

[Dave-W]

No, exegesis is bringing out clearly the meaning that is already in the text; eisegesis is putting meaning into the text that isn't there (politicians and unfaithful preachers do it all the time).

LOL - and if you pull something out that is actually in there but stands in contrast to the other guy's beliefs - he accuses you of eisegesis.

 

[HermanNeutics13]

Yeah that is why King David got into trouble.

bugkiller

Notice it was David and npt Bathsheba that got in trouble. It was not her fault she bathed at least in a public enough area to be seen.

 

[HermanNeutics13]

I think the command to be fruitful and multiply is about the only command that the human race has obeyed!

It isn't really true anymore, in AMerica if we maintain our current course we will become underpopulated and Europe is even worse because the birth rates are below 2 which is what is needed to maintain a steady population.

 

[Dave-W]

Notice it was David and npt Bathsheba that got in trouble. It was not her fault she bathed at least in a public enough area to be seen.

It was not a public place. It was up on top of the house and the ONLY place around tall enough to look on it was the upper part of the Palace.

 

[Darkhorse]

My family and I spent a week at our favorite nudist resort enjoying the spring weather without any clothes at all.

As usual, there were several scheduled events, and lots of free time to swim, soak in the hot tub, lie in the sun, play volleyball, and talk with friends.

The scheduled events included karaoke, a wine-and-cheese social hour, a dance with a DJ, another dance with a band, a Sunday worship service, and a Memorial Day service with military speakers in attendance.

And all this took place with no lewd behavior, no sexual innuendo, and nothing unsuitable for children - which is good, because about a dozen children scampered around, especially in the pool.

Many people consider this lifestyle inappropriate for anyone, and certainly for Christians. One of our more-prolific posters here on CF will probably post articles on "Why Christians Can't Be Nudists" and similar topics.

I disagree.

My wife and I are Christian nudists and have raised our children as nudists.

Their sexual morals and attitudes are far "cleaner" than most young people their ages.

They are still virgins.

They avoid pornography.

My wife and I have been married almost 27 years (our only marriage), and have always been faithful to each other.

And many of the 200 people at the resort have the same experiences to report.


I think most Christians would benefit by adopting nudism.

 

[dayhiker]

I got to a nudist resort in just under a month. Looking forward to it.

 

[HermanNeutics13]

I got to a nudist resort in just under a month. Looking forward to it.

How did you like it?

 

[dayhiker]

Herman ... I had a very nice 24 hours at the resort. Relaxing and quiet. It was during the week so mostly just the people that have a summer home on the resort there.

 

[Darkhorse]

I'm reviving this thread mostly as an alternative to the other active "Christian nudist" thread, where the OP is seeking the views of those opposed to the idea of Christians being nudists.

This thread seeks posts from both opponents and proponents, and may provide interesting reading for new members who have joined CF in the last couple of years...

 

[dayhiker]

I'm off to Mexico in 3 weeks to a clothing optional place for a week of vacation. Let the fun begin!