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There will be many, many more killings in the name of Islam by the minority of Muslims. And the silent Majority will continue to stay irrelevant.

The MO for Muslim attacks is a small group or lone wolf. This is precisely how they are waging war and making it look as though there is no master plan at the same time.
 
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the murder of a priest, a grievous attack on a nun, and the desecration of an alter barely gets any notice at all

As soon as I heard about it, we prayed. New Martyr Priest Jacques, pray for us!
 
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The MO for Muslim attacks is a small group or lone wolf. This is precisely how they are waging war and making it look as though there is no master plan at the same time.

Although Islamic terrorism is larger due to its larger numbers, or group size, its still comparable to certain American terrorist acts. We don't bomb a whole country for the acts of terrorism do we? Do we bomb all of Oklahoma because of Tim McVeigh? It just seems crazy to go to war like that. Many innocent people will be killed. Maybe there is a master plan, and maybe not, but either way that still doesn't justify bombing raids on whole cities of people. You speak like you want to declare war.
 
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except for the fact that lady knows of what she speaks. But there are plenty of people on youtube who try to discredit her.

Yeah but that won't stop some people they don't mind looking stupid knowing the DNC will hire them...
 
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From the video: "Islam is a political movement cloaked in religion."

This is what people in the West do not understand. They see Islam as a religion, and they see all religion through Christian eyes (or their knowledge of Christianity). They do understand that Muslims do not try to gain converts, but control governments, and through the force and power of governments, force conversion at the threat of death.
 
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"The peaceful majority [of Muslims] are irrelevant."


Exactly. Which means that those here that bring that up are missing the larger point. Actually I think they are ignoring it. It's irrelevant to the conversation that a majority of Muslims aren't chopping off heads. What matters is the millions of Muslims who support such actions. If left unchecked, such terrorists will continue until they are a daily occurrence even in the US.
 
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Exactly. Which means that those here that bring that up are missing the larger point. Actually I think they are ignoring it. It's irrelevant to the conversation that a majority of Muslims aren't chopping off heads. What matters is the millions of Muslims who support such actions. If left unchecked, such terrorists will continue until they are a daily occurrence even in the US.

On 9/11/2001, 19 Muslims killed 3,000, injured 6,000, and caused 3.3 trillion dollars worth of damage and loss.

They hate us because we are, "infidels".
 
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On 9/11/2001, 19 Muslims killed 3,000, injured 6,000, and caused 3.3 trillion dollars worth of damage and loss.

They hate us because we are, "infidels".

A Muslim wrote a book, Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus, and details his painful journey out of Islam and into the Christianity faith. For every challenge to Islam (by his friend David Wood) Nabeel would go to the Islamic authoritative writings. What he found shocked him and in the end, Nabeel knew that Islam was not of God. Leaving Islam, even in the US, is no small task. Nabeel lost his family in the process. Many Muslims choose to stay in Islam because it's "safer" than trying to leave.
 
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Hail Mary, full of Grace, The Lord is with Thee,
Blessed art Thou among women and Blessed is The Fruit of Thy Womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners
spread the effect of Grace of Thy Flame of Love over all of humanity,
now and at the hour of our death, Amen.

Please dear Lord Jesus, we immerse Father's soul in Thy Blessed Holy Wounds and pray for Thy precious Holy Blood poured out upon His soul now and for eternity Amen.

We immerse all of Thy priests and religious in Thy Blessed Holy Wounds and pray for Thy Precious Holy Blood poured out upon them now and for eternity Amen.

We immerse all of Thy Christian Missionaries in Thy Blessed Holy Wounds please Dear Lord Jesus now and for eternity Amen.

Eternal Father I offer You The Wounds of our Lord Jesus Christ to heal the Wounds of our souls Amen.

My Jesus, pardon and mercy through the Merits of Your Holy Wounds, Amen.
 
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As a martyr I am sure Fr. Jacques is right now praying for his enemies in the presence of God and the saints.

Christians need to be praying for anyone who associates violence with a path to God, that like Paul, they would be converted. Years ago I met a formerly Muslim man online. He saw Jesus in a dream. He was in the process of joining one of the ancient Syrian Christian communities. I have no doubt prayers here can matter.

Thatbrain, religion itself is misunderstood by westerners. Probably due to the Enlightenment relegating religion to the realm of private experience. Which is alien to how most of the rest of the world actually experiences it. We don't realize most religions have political implications reflecting their core values.
 
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I'd argue that you can't kill an ideology, anyway and shy of millions of troops deployed across multiple countries going town to town, village to village, engaging the enemy and holding ground gained, we'd never make a real difference. Even after that, we'd have to come home at some point.
Conventional warfare is woefully ineffective against this type of enemy and there's no effective way to fight them under the expectation of meaningful progress.

Yes, you can't kill an ideology.

But something can be done. You only need to worry about male Muslims in the ages between 8 to 40.

The CCTV cameras can be employed and the process automated, basically to predict an attack and identify potential terrorists based on pattern of activities like places visited, people met, items acquired, etc.
 
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For those who are playing nice with Islamic actions just know we mean well, we don't want anything to be taken too seriously and least of all, have innocent children killed. Good point, but just remember whether you think they should be given a chance to do something better in future or not, they are hell bent on preaching and raising their teachings even it means killing innocent children.

One of our attacks.

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They don't want war, they want Islam to rule the world, whether we believe they want war or not, they will bring the war to you. W2L, I have said this somewhere else. In our case, our attack was a year before the US 9/11, we also had thousands killed and injured. Did we retaliate? No. Many years passed and they started harassing our marines on our offshores, taking them captive, asking for ransom bla bla bla. So we decided since their Country was unstable too, we decided to smoke them out of their hideouts and strongholds. The Process was clean, we protected their civilians and only attacked those who exchanged fire but most of the time, no Jihadist would let you walk away free so too bad most of them were killed in the process.

Well, when they decided to hit back, they never went to look for the army, they went to look for civilians, killed them at will and spared none including women or anyone who was viewed without any defense. This is what I'm saying, Please just keep quiet if you can't support any retaliatory move, just keep quiet. Because, it was written they will never want peace we have to accept FATE as it is. But stop being oblivious of what they can do. That's all I'm saying, we have to stop being naive.
 
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They don't want war, they want Islam to rule the world, whether we believe they want war or not, they will bring the war to you. W2L, I have said this somewhere else. In our case, our attack was a year before the US 9/11, we also had thousands killed and injured. Did we retaliate? No. Many years passed and they started harassing our marines on our offshores, taking them captive, asking ransom bla bla bla. So we decided since their Country was unstable too, we decided to smoke them out of their hideouts and strongholds. The Process was clean, we protected their civilians and only attacked those exchanged fire but most of the time, no Jihadist will let you walk away free so too bad most of them were killed in the process.

Well, when they decided to hit back, they never went to look for the army, they went to look for civilians, killed them at will and spared none including women or anyone who was viewed without any defense. This is what I'm saying, Please just keep quiet if you can't support any retaliatory move, just keep quiet. Because, it was written they will never want peace so, we have to accept FATE as it is. But stop being oblivious of what they can do to YOU!!! That's all I'm saying, we have to stop being NAIVE!

Look, I use to think like you. I supported every war. Am i being naïve or am I being cautious with my words and judgment? What does the Lord teach us? That's all I want to know. Should I be quiet about that?
 
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I won't pass judgment but I won't sit back and believe they have been meaning well. I would like to preach peace but I think, what the LORD has said, can't be unsaid. Christians can be kind and warm to them. I don't think I would turn away someone in need because they've killed thousands of our people and I won't be harsh on them because of terror dreams as well as one month filled with paranoia they will kill all of us. So, I will help if I have the ability to, after all, whatsoever I do to the least of my brothers so that I do unto the LORD. Fair enough, but I know they will kill and I won't be able to stop them even if I COULD because the Bible passed that Judgment long time ago.
 
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I won't pass judgment but I won't sit back and believe they have been meaning well. I would like to preach peace but I think, what the LORD has said, can't be unsaid. Christians can be kind and warm to them. I don't think I would turn away someone in need because they've killed thousands of our people and I won't be harsh on them because of terror dreams as well as one month filled with paranoia they will kill all of us. So, I will help if I have the ability to, after all, whatsoever I do to the least of my brothers so that I do unto the LORD. Fair enough, but I know they will kill and I won't be able to stop them even if I COULD because the Bible passed that Judgment long time ago.

I am not saying that they mean well. I believe they want war, killing and death. Do all Muslims want that? I don't know. What I do know is that I want to follow the scriptures, as hard as it may be. What do the scriptures teach us? I see a cross that we bear, not an M-16. I'm not against the military either. I'm not judging them. Who am I to judge them? God is the judge. Maybe God will choose to put down this Jihad. All I am concerned with is what I am supposed to do as a Christian.
 
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I only pray that if my time comes, LORD HAVE MERCY! :/

Me as well. I don't think I'm fearless or a great holy man. I know I would be afraid if my time came. I know also that its harder to speak about faith without a gun in your hand than it is with one. Its harder to speak about courage without a gun as well. I'm just having trouble supporting war and the gospel at the same time. I'm not naïve, and I know that if I support peace in this way that I may just need to walk that walk one day instead of just talking it. Sure its difficult seeing this fear inside myself, but at the end of the day I ask myself, if I truly believe in the Lord then why am I afraid to die? Isnt heaven going to be much better than here?
 
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