We, however, place a greater value in our own opinions.
That is actually very accurate. Creationists do hold their beliefs in higher esteem than the facts.
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We, however, place a greater value in our own opinions.
The tools we have for testing the physical world around us work well on studying physical things, but they aren't designed to test non-physical things.
Man didn't make the universe, so your entire argument falls apart. You are simply assuming that natural processes can't produce something more complicated than man can create.
We do have reasons. They are called natural mechanisms.
That would be a God of the Gaps fallacy. "I don't know" is a valid answer if we really don't know. Just because we are ignorant of something does not mean that God did it.
What creator? If you have no evidence for a creator then there is nothing to deny.
What objective evidence?
Nope I'm not assuming a thing, I know for a fact things are created, happens all the time and have never seen anything just come out of nothing of what you call "natural processes" lol....NOT assumption.
I've seen a lot of natural processes but still never something from nothing all by itself.....ever.
Try all day long to spin things to where that falls apart if you like, but throwing the words out there hardly makes is so...you are going to have to do much better than that pitiful little attempt.
Doesn't some type of matter have to exist before natural mechanisms can work.
Are you ignorant of the common sense it takes to see that things are created all the time and you have never just sat there and seen something appear form nothing?
Are you ignorant that the claim it does come form nothing is hidden in time and no one can prove it because no one can see it?
I just put it all out there for you, but I can't hold your hand and make you see what is right there in front of you...even if it is backed by much more believable evidence than you will ever have.. If your choice of what to see and what not to see weren't so sad, it would be hilarious.
Where is the evidence that the universe was created? Pointing to man creating a Ford Taurus is not evidence for the universe being created.
Evolution is not something from nothing, so I don't see how that applies.
You just described your own argument.
Matter existed before man evolved, so I don't see where the problem is. Evolution has humans evolving from a primate ancestor shared with other primates, so again, where is the problem?
We don't know where the universe came from, so repeating this nonsense isn't helping. Why couldn't the universe come from something through natural processes?
I am aware of claims that the universe came from a singularity of energy. That is something, last I checked.
All you have are bare assertions.
If you aren't going to so much as pay attention to what I write, and you clearly are not, otherwise you wouldn't be asking some of that stuff...there is not much since in my repeating myself. Acting like a contrary little child and ignoring good arguments, is not going to make the truth go away.
Look, a man creating a Ford Taurus. This is evidence that the universe is created.
That is what your argument boils down to.
You also seem to ignore the fact that the universe doesn't have to come from nothing. It can come from something through natural processes. This also refutes your entire argument.
Add to that the fact that evolution starts with something. Again, your argument is refuted.
Do you really even need evidence that things are created over coming from nothing?
You honestly don't get the logic that since I see things created,
Then you want to fall back on, "we didn't say it came from nothing". So then where did it come from?
"Oh, but we don't need that info". Of course you need that info. Like I said somewhere just a few minutes ago, if I only give you part of the directions, you will never find your way to where you want to go.
Do you really even need evidence that things are created over coming from nothing? You honestly don't get the logic that since I see things created, I feel the universe was created as opposed to since I don't see things come from nothing, so I don't think the universe came from nothing? That's as simple as I can put it for you. Yet you pretend a perfectly good, and rational concept is foolishness?
Then you want to fall back on, "we didn't say it came from nothing". So then where did it come from? "Oh, but we don't need that info". Of course you need that info. Like I said somewhere just a few minutes ago, if I only give you part of the directions, you will never find your way to where you want to go. You have to have all of the info to draw an informed conclusion and throwing out where it came from as not necessary is simply a convenient cop out because you must get rid of that beginning in order to make it even seem like you have any points.
A whole thread was started on that simple and obvious necessity all just to get others to help y'all to justify your denial of the need to know the beginning.
Wow, people.
Sadly, our education system is not among the best in the world."More than four in 10 Americans continue to believe that God created humans in their present form 10,000 years ago, a view that has changed little over the past three decades. Half of Americans believe humans evolved, with the majority of these saying God guided the evolutionary process."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx
Your a Baptist and you reject dispensationalism? First I ever heard of that. They do not allow the Scofield Study Bible in your church?A-men bhsmte. Thats another reason why I can't speculate on gap theory.
Where does all this "something coming from nothing" stuff come from? Has anyone ever said that? It's a very foolish strawman.
There were no atheists in Israel when the people said: "let not God speak with us, lest we die."then were someone to give you irrefutable proof of God's existence you would then have no chance whatever of salvation.
1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.We are here, and if we weren't created then where did it all come from? Nothing?
All I'm getting from this is that it takes far more faith to believe in Darwinian evolution than it does to believe in Creation.
No. It really does not.
Way to demonstrate a lack of understanding.There were no atheists in Israel when the people said: "let not God speak with us, lest we die."
20:18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
20:19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.