What else does Romans 10:12-14 say? I'm totally serious.
The responses to the gospel includes: hearing, believing, confessing, repenting and being baptized, which a baby cannot do, so are all babies hell bound if they die?"on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus"
Jesus preached, repent, believe in Me, in truth that 'I AM HE'
And If you do not beleive in ME then you will surely die in your sins.
So the gospel of Jesus Christ whereby God will judge all men is clear that believers in Him have eternal life, and unbelievers do not.
there is ZERO ambiguity about this, so to say otherwise is the spirit of ANTICHRIST.
Yes, after the Pentecost it was the same for: mature adult Jews and mature adult Gentiles, but that does not address immature Jews and Gentiles.Actually, it does:
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved. How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? (Romans 10:12-14)
It's the same for both Jew ad Greek. If you don't call upon the name of the Lord, you are not saved. If no one preaches to you, you will not know of the only true God in whom to call upon.
So, quite definitively, we know all who have not heard of Christ or whom have rejected preaching of Him are not saved. It's pretty simple, and without contradicting the Scripture, it is the only conclusion we can draw.
Yes, after the Pentecost it was the same for: mature adult Jews and mature adult Gentiles, but that does not address immature Jews and Gentiles.
Since babies especially those not born yet cannot; call on the name of the Lord, are all babies hell bound if they die, since: how will they hear without a preacher?
Paul is writing to a group of mature adults.
Does Paul make any distinction between mature and immature, or did you just make it up?
To answer your question, I believe that it is consistent with Scripture that all people, no matter time they were born, where they were born, or their respective age cannot be saved apart from God's grace available to us through faith in Jesus Christ.
It is you; who assumes it applies to more than those Paul is addressing. If you make that same assumption throughout scripture Matt 10: These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans. Does this make Jesus out to be a hypocrite?Does Paul make any distinction between mature and immature, or did you just make it up?
Does that seem just and fair to you?To answer your question, I believe that it is consistent with Scripture that all people, no matter time they were born, where they were born, or their respective age cannot be saved apart from God's grace available to us through faith in Jesus Christ.
Is it possible to serve Jesus without knowing you are serving him?
Wait, wait, wait...don't go off in three different directions. What does Romans 10:12-14 even mean if people must be preached to about the true God to be saved?
If you cannot answer that in light of what that Scripture actually says, the conversation is over.
The world through wisdom did not know God, so God chose the foolishness of preaching to save those who hear the message. Being able to hear in the inner man what God says gets people saved, God does not speak to all men, God only speaks the message that saves to those He has called.
1 Cor 1
Those who are not elect to salvation are just making up stories about God that turn into myths about what God has said. Their wisdom is of this earth and devilish, meant to deceive the simple minded.
Avoid Divisive Persons who are contrary to sound doctrine of grace
Romans 16
It is you; who assumes it applies to more than those Paul is addressing. If you make that same assumption throughout scripture Matt 10: These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans. Does this make Jesus out to be a hypocrite?
Does that seem just and fair to you?
Does God not follow the Bible examples of justice and fairness?
I responded and you have ignored what I said.
Not possible, preaching and knowledge of Christ is necessary according to Romans 10:12-14.
Not possible, preaching and knowledge of Christ is necessary according to Romans 10:12-14.
That passage says nothing about who will not be saved.
The sheep in Matt 25 didn't even know they were serving him.
Also, Paul tells us this:
1 Tim 4:10
That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.
And Peter this:
Acts 10
34Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.
7 Consider what I say, and may the Lord give you understanding in all things.
8 Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel, 9 for which I suffer trouble as an evildoer, even to the point of chains; but the word of God is not chained.
10 Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
Before the time of Christ, God chose only one people in which to make Himself known, and that is Israel. Is that fair to you? Because, it was fair to God.
No, you actually ignored Romans 10:12-14. You need to respond to the point actually given, or by any other action you betray how intellectually bankrupt your position actually is.
Where is your proof that God did not speak to others?
Hear this word that the Lord has spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying:
2 “You only have I known of all the families of the earth;
Therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.”
Paul also gets right to who gets saved in 2 Tim 2 and it is for them that Paul labors, Paul labors for the elect, not all of the world.
Paul recognizes it is the elect who obtain salvation. So why dont you?