When will Elijah the prophet appear in the world?

[HannibalFlavius]

Sarah and Hagar were symbolic for Jerusalem.

The same type of thing can be said of Jacob's beloved Rachel, and her sister Leah.

The birth of the beloved Benjamin is very symbolic as we see Rachel dying.


If Sarah and Hagar had so very much symbolism, then imagine the symbolism we are shown in Rachel and Leah, and their hand maidens.

There is 5 mothers of Israel, and all of them symbolic of something real important.

Rachel gives birth to Joseph, he becomes a slave, sold into the gentile nations, rejected by his brethren, thrown into a pit and presumed dead and he is a shadow that points to Jesus himself.

So how symbolic can the mother of Joseph be?

She gives birth to the true servant, but Benjamin his brother also has to be born, and in his birth, Rachel dies.








Matthew 2:18 is the eighteenth verse of the second chapter of the Gospel of Matthew in the New Testament. Herod has ordered the Massacre of the Innocents and this verse quotes from the Book of Jeremiah to show that this event was predicted by the prophets.
In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads:
In Rama was there a voice heard,lamentation, and weeping, andgreat mourning, Rachel weeping forher children, and would not becomforted, because they are not.

Rachel was weeping for her children in the days that Christ was born, so she is symbolic of something.


This death of the first born takes us back to Egypt where the sons were being put into the river and drowned in the days of Moses and also reminds us of the first born of Egypt being killed, but the Passover lamb protecting the First born of Israel.

So what is Rachel symbolic for?

 

[HannibalFlavius]

The only think I want you to do is stop printing opinions, and stick to the facts. To post anything contrary to the fact is to distort scripture.


KRS1
Keeper of Records and Seals

The facts seem to change from person to person


Nobody is going to believe crazy Hannibal anyway.

 

[precepts]

The facts seem to change from person to person


Nobody is going to believe crazy Hannibal anyway.

The facts can't change from person to person, only opinions. I provided two chapters in Daniel that details who places the abomination of desolation in the temple, and who causes the daily sacrifice to cease What verses have you provided for your claim of it being a Nubian ruler? None.

 

[HannibalFlavius]

The facts can't change from person to person, only opinions. I provided two chapters in Daniel that details who places the abomination of desolation in the temple, and who causes the daily sacrifice to cease What verses have you provided for your claim of it being a Nubian ruler? None.

Isaiah 19 shows a cruel ruler coming to rule over Egypt{the most powerful nation}. The Jewish publication bible believes this man to be a Nubian, or of Ethiopian decent, I simply agree with them.



Isaiah 19: 4 where the Egyptians are placed at the mercy of a harsh master, and a ruthless king shall rule over them, a foreigner, an Ethiopian.

The notes I have in this Jewish publication bible says that the divine punishment of Egypt will involve a foreigner coming to rule over Egypt.

Isaiah 19 shows God coming to afflict Egypt and the troubles he afflicts them with look identical with what God afflicted Israel with, and it goes on describing how Egyptians, Assyrians and Israelis all become one because they endured the same things.




What Isaiah says about Egypt in the last days leads to Ezekiel 30 showing the same thing, history repeating itself.

Ezekiel 30:19 shows the judgment executed against Egypt recalls the language of the first Exodus tradition{Exodus 6:6} suggesting that this event, the biblical paradigm for God's power, will be reenacted.


Both Isaiah and Ezekiel showing the world going through the same type of ordeal that Israel went through.






Ethiopia and Nubia have a lot of meanings when looking at Egypt, they also had their rule.

Isaiah 18:7 In that time, a present will be brought to the Lord of hosts From a people tall and smooth of skin{blacks from Ethiopia}, And from a people terrible from their beginning onward, A nation powerful and treading down, Whose land the river,



Nubian kings had once conquered Egypt and ruled it for sixty years and that their dynasty was counted as Egypt's Twenty-fifth. The Greeks, however, did not call these people "Nubians" or "Kushites," as we do today; they called them Aithiopes ("Ethiopians"), which in Greek meant "Burnt-Faced Ones." They knew perfectly well that Nubians were black-skinned, as are the Sudanese of the same regions today.

 

[precepts]

Isaiah 19 shows a cruel ruler coming to rule over Egypt{the most powerful nation}. The Jewish publication bible believes this man to be a Nubian, or of Ethiopian decent, I simply agree with them.

But you agree it's a Nubian in Dan 11?

Isaiah 19: 4 where the Egyptians are placed at the mercy of a harsh master, and a ruthless king shall rule over them, a foreigner, an Ethiopian.

Where does it say in Isa 19 the ruler is an Ethiopian? Why are you adding unfounded, unscriptural, twists to scripture?!

The notes I have in this Jewish publication bible says that the divine punishment of Egypt will involve a foreigner coming to rule over Egypt.

Obviously you and the Ewish publication didn't look at the context, or don't know the context of the prophecy. All prophecies in the OT testament is either pre-Babylon or post. It's either the destruction of the then known world by Nebuchadnezzar (pre-Babylon), or by the prince of Magog (the Greek lil horn, Gog) who defiles the temple courtyard post-Babylon. These attacks are repeated in Revelation's two heavenly attack on the heavenly Shalem the reason the heavenly temple courtyard wasn't measured by John.

Isaiah 19 shows God coming to afflict Egypt and the troubles he afflicts them with look identical with what God afflicted Israel with, and it goes on describing how Egyptians, Assyrians and Israelis all become one because they endured the same things.

Didn't I explain this already? The context being post-Babylon.

What Isaiah says about Egypt in the last days leads to Ezekiel 30 showing the same thing, history repeating itself.

It's amazing how you can see all that and miss Eze 30:10.

Eze 30:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also make the multitude of Egypt to cease by the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon.
Eze 30:11 He and his people with him, the terrible of the nations, shall be brought to destroy the land: and they shall draw their swords against Egypt, and fill the land with the slain.
Eze 30:12 And I will make the rivers dry, and sell the land into the hand of the wicked: and I will make the land waste, and all that is therein, by the hand of strangers: I the LORD have spoken it.

It's amazing you didn't see that! It also amazing you equate this destruction to an Ethiopian/Nubian ruler, when in almost every verse in Eze 30, it speaks of the destruction of Egypt's helpers, which included the Ethiopians.

Ezekiel 30:19 shows the judgment executed against Egypt recalls the language of the first Exodus tradition{Exodus 6:6} suggesting that this event, the biblical paradigm for God's power, will be reenacted.

That's because of the Babylon Exodus. The Babylon exodus was one like the Egyptian's with signs and wonders, but Christianity fails to recognize this.

Both Isaiah and Ezekiel showing the world going through the same type of ordeal that Israel went through.

That's because it was all done by Babylon, for the umpteenth time.

Ethiopia and Nubia have a lot of meanings when looking at Egypt, they also had their rule.

Which has nothing to do with the facts.

Isaiah 18:7 In that time, a present will be brought to the Lord of hosts From a people tall and smooth of skin{blacks from Ethiopia}, And from a people terrible from their beginning onward, A nation powerful and treading down, Whose land the river,



Nubian kings had once conquered Egypt and ruled it for sixty years and that their dynasty was counted as Egypt's Twenty-fifth. The Greeks, however, did not call these people "Nubians" or "Kushites," as we do today; they called them Aithiopes ("Ethiopians"), which in Greek meant "Burnt-Faced Ones." They knew perfectly well that Nubians were black-skinned, as are the Sudanese of the same regions today.

As were the Egyptians and the Ewes.

 

[HannibalFlavius]

But you agree it's a Nubian in Dan 11?




Where does it say in Isa 19 the ruler is an Ethiopian? Why are you adding unfounded, unscriptural, twists to scripture?!




Obviously you and the Ewish publication didn't look at the context, or don't know the context of the prophecy. All prophecies in the OT testament is either pre-Babylon or post. It's either the destruction of the then known world by Nebuchadnezzar (pre-Babylon), or by the prince of Magog (the Greek lil horn, Gog) who defiles the temple courtyard post-Babylon. These attacks are repeated in Revelation's two heavenly attack on the heavenly Shalem the reason the heavenly temple courtyard wasn't measured by John.




Didn't I explain this already? The context being post-Babylon.





It's amazing how you can see all that and miss Eze 30:10.

It's amazing you didn't see that! It also amazing you equate this destruction to an Ethiopian/Nubian ruler, when in almost every verse in Eze 30, it speaks of the destruction of Egypt's helpers, which included the Ethiopians.




That's because of the Babylon Exodus. The Babylon exodus was one like the Egyptian's with signs and wonders, but Christianity fails to recognize this.




That's because it was all done by Babylon, for the umpteenth time.






Which has nothing to do with the facts.




As were the Egyptians and the Ewes.

What I see is a language that most people do not see.


I don't expect you to see what I see, because I seriously doubt you are in to all the traditions and prayers spoken on the 7 feast days of Christ.

If you don't keep up with the cycle that begins on Simchat Torah, then you miss out on a great deal of language being used.

It's just like reading Revelation, Revelation is filled with Prayers, traditions and rituals that are spoken on exact days.

If you do not know the rituals and traditions and prayers, it is extremely hard to read Revelation or any of the prophets.

Where I see 3 Passovers, 3 unleavened breads, 3 firstfruits, 3 Pentecosts, 3 feasts of Tabernacles, 3 Yom Kippors, 3 Shemini Aretzereth, I'm sure that you probably don't.


I see these prophets talking about the third Passover, the third Sukkot, the 3rd Pentecost, but unless you are very familiar with the Mission days of appointed visitation days of Christ, you will not see what I see.

I'll give you an example.

If Heaven endured silence for a space of a half an hour, what day is it?
If the kingdoms of the world have become the kingdoms of the Lord, what day is it?
If the night time turns to day, what day is it?

What are the prayers spoken on Shemini Atzereth?


The reason that we will not see eye to eye, is going to be because I keep the cycles and the traditions and prayers that are a language to themselves.


Example.


Ezekiel 45:21.


We have Passover, Pentecost, Yom Kippor and Sukkot happening in a single day.

But would you notice, and know why?


Of course we are going to see different things if I have chosen all the 7 and even 8 Holy days of Jesus and you do not.

Of course we are not going to see eye to eye, if one of us is lacking an entire language which evolves around the 7 feasts of Christ with all it's traditions, rituals and prayers.

Jesus stood up in the Temple and spoke from Isaiah 61 and then said it was fulfilled in their ears.

What was the exact date that Jesus spoke from Isaiah?

 

[HannibalFlavius]

When God sent Moses to bring a Passover to Israel in which they left Egypt, being brought out of a nation by God, it was not the first Passover.


Before God brought Israel out of Egypt, he had been doing the same thing to other nations.

He had caused Assyria to be slaves to a nation, and then he chose a man like Moses and led those people out.

Amos
"Are not you Israelites the same to me as the Cushites?" declares the LORD. "Did I not bring Israel up from Egypt, the Philistines from Caphtor and the Arameans from Kir?

God bringing nations out of other nations like Israel was brought out of Egypt has been a continual sort of thing, But Israel has 3 Passovers that speak of 3 Passovers that Jesus has to fulfill.

The first Passover was out of Egypt, the second Passover was Jesus dying, but the prophets talk about a third Passover in many places.

Notice what happens to the Egyptians being the same thing that God had done to Israel, they will also have their 40 years to wait, But God will also gather them from the nations where they were dispersed, just as he promises Israel to do the same, the Assyrians also have this promise, and all 3 become one.

Egypt, Assyria, and Israel become one people with one set of Holy days because they all go through the same things that God had done to, and for Israel.

The Egyptians are calling out for a Messiah right now.

But here is some very interesting scriptures about Egyptians.



29 In the tenth year, in the tenth month, in the twelfth day of the month, the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Pharaoh king of Egypt, and prophesy against him, and against all Egypt:
3 Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself.
4 But I will put hooks in thy jaws, and I will cause the fish of thy rivers to stick unto thy scales, and I will bring thee up out of the midst of thy rivers, and all the fish of thy rivers shall stick unto thy scales.
5 And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven.
6 And all the inhabitants of Egypt shall know that I am the Lord, because they have been a staff of reed to the house of Israel.
7 When they took hold of thee by thy hand, thou didst break, and rend all their shoulder: and when they leaned upon thee, thou brakest, and madest all their loins to be at a stand.
8 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will bring a sword upon thee, and cut off man and beast out of thee.
9 And the land of Egypt shall be desolate and waste; and they shall know that I am the Lord: because he hath said, The river is mine, and I have made it.
10 Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia.
11 No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.
12 And I will make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate, and her cities among the cities that are laid waste shall be desolate forty years: and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries.
13 Yet thus saith the Lord God; At the end of forty years will I gather the Egyptians from the people whither they were scattered:
14 And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return into the land of Pathros, into the land of their habitation; and they shall be there a base kingdom.
15 It shall be the basest of the kingdoms; neither shall it exalt itself any more above the nations: for I will diminish them, that they shall no more rule over the nations.

The language being used in these scriptures is showing the same language and things done to Israel.

 

[Gracelands]

Rachel was weeping for her children in the days that Christ was born, so she is symbolic of something.


This death of the first born takes us back to Egypt where the sons were being put into the river and drowned in the days of Moses and also reminds us of the first born of Egypt being killed, but the Passover lamb protecting the First born of Israel.

So what is Rachel symbolic for?

i don't know if youre asking a rhetorical question or what. I'm only half with the thread but ive got a metaphysical bible concordance here which says Rachel means 'ewe', 'migrating' 'sheep' or 'lamb'. She was the mother of Benjamin and Joseph which were children she bore through faith. She had been barren.

Its interesting that the lamb was sacrificed for the hebrews in Egypt and the children of Rachel were killed instead of Christ ( the lamb). Patterns always mean something in the bible. I'll have to ponder that one.

Hope that helped. = )

 

[Strong in Him]

I don't think I'm clever enough to understand all this; probably best if I leave you to it.

Not sure I believe that anything's going to happen on Wed/Thurs though.

 

[Jon Anon]

I don't think I'm clever enough to understand all this; probably best if I leave you to it.

Not sure I believe that anything's going to happen on Wed/Thurs though.

If you read the book of Jonah you see the feasts played out throughout the book

1. Jonah in the fish 3 days
Jesus in the tomb 3 days

2. 40 day call to repentance
Elul is a 40 day call to repentance

3. We saw the 120 on the day of pentecost
Ninvevah had 120(thousand) people type of pentecost

4. We see the feast of tabernacles as Jonah is setting up a "booth" in the desert

Elijah comes to bring repentance before the judgement comes just as Jonah did.

So when Elijah shows up he will be doing the 40 day call to repentance before God judges america. I will show an example with the days I think it will come about

October 16/17 2013 Elijah begins the 40 days of Elul
30 days later(november 14/15 2013) will be the feast of trumpets(rosh hashanah) and will be "the day of the lord" which is the judgement on america and some say a harvest whether it be 1 of 3 harvests:

1. barley harvest(easy to remove shell)
2. wheat harvest(harder to remove shell)
3. grapes harvest(crush to bring forth wine)

when those first 30 days of the 40 are completed it will be Rosh Hashanah and this will be the beginning of a 10 year tribulation or 3 sets of 42 months

1. 42 months Jacobs trouble(america destruction)
2. first half of 7 year tribulation
3. last of 7 year tribulation

The first 30 days of the 40 day call to repentance are actual 30 days but as soon as Rosh Hashanah comes then we begin a different calendar. We begin a 360 day year calendar and those last 10 days of the 40 turn into 10 years instead of 10 days. Those last 10 years are the repentance chance for the tribulation saints







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[HannibalFlavius]

i don't know if youre asking a rhetorical question or what. I'm only half with the thread but ive got a metaphysical bible concordance here which says Rachel means 'ewe', 'migrating' 'sheep' or 'lamb'. She was the mother of Benjamin and Joseph which were children she bore through faith. She had been barren.

Its interesting that the lamb was sacrificed for the hebrews in Egypt and the children of Rachel were killed instead of Christ ( the lamb). Patterns always mean something in the bible. I'll have to ponder that one.

Hope that helped. = )

Rhetorical, Just rambling, it's the way I learn.


I write these ridiculously long posts that nobody reads, but I learn as I go.

Have you ever considered that You are Rachel?

That your death and birth might be the birth of Benjamin and the death of Rachel?

I Try to put a concept in the mind of somebody else, so that they may see it from an angel that I maybe missing.

Jacob and Rachel is an idea of making one person out of two brothers.

While Jacob was born from Abraham, Rachel was from Nahor.

The concept is to make the children of Nahor, Abraham, and Haran one people, because these 3 brothers represent a whole.

It's just like looking at the 3 sons of Adam, 3 sons, of Noah, and these 3 sons of Noah together represent the whole world.

When we see Moses and his two siblings, we are looking at a whole that says,'' Body, soul, and spirit.''

So we are trying to make one body out of Abraham, Nahor, and Haran.

So we see Abraham in Jacob, and Nahor in Rachel.



If the first born of Rachel was Joseph who only shadowed what Jesus would be, then the second born of Rachel points to who?

We have seen Jesus come and literally fulfill the life of Joseph, and so we must figure that we have already seen the birth of Benjamin, OR, we will see the birth of Benjamin, or.

Jesus{Joseph} is presumed dead right now, but he is co ruler of all the gentiles who believe in him, he reigns in their lives.

No doubt, the story of Joseph demanding to see his brother Benjamin will play out, and Judah will stand up for Benjamin. Jesus will no doubt tell his brothers that he forgives them for what they had done to him, he will say,'' You meant it for evil but God meant it not only for your salvation, but the salvation of all the world.




Here is what I am thinking.


It's not hard to relay the concept of Jesus having to be both, '' Suffering Messiah Ben Yoseph, AND the ruling and reigning Messiah Ben David,''

But what are we missing?


Between these two kingdoms, and in the midst of these two Messiahs, there is a third.

Jerusalem was built in Benjamin to unite all of Israel.


Benjamin is the beloved of the Lord who literally rests between the bosom of the Lord, and between two sons of God.

Not only did Jesus have to be Joseph, and not only did he have to be David, he also has to be Benjamin.

The birth of Jesus in the flesh shows Joseph which is the body.

But what about the second birth of Jesus?


Jesus was born in the flesh on the 15th of Tishri.
Jesus was also born on the 17th of Nisan.

Being born the first man to die, and then to be reborn through that death.


Jesus was the first fruits of all those who will be reborn, just as a woman gives birth, so too this body has a day of birth for the child that we have raised.

There was a virgin, and then we saw a partition wall tear from the top down.

Blood and water spilled out upon the earth and the Earth became pregnant, 3 days later the Earth gave birth to a full grown man on the day of birth, first fruits.


Woe to those with child in those days who are weaning children.
Have you fed your child the milk of the word, raised him, giving him understanding of the meat of the word?

WE are more concerned with raising the flesh and building a kingdom here, that we forget that we are pregnant with the child of God who needs the milk and we should be doing good works as to building him a better future.


If a demand goes out to produce Benjamin, it means that we are given a time to seek the Lord with all our hearts, because Benjamin is that child who is lurking within you like a man in the belly of a fish having scales on his eyes

WE feed this body of flesh and we give it all it desires, but we neglect that child within, we are abusive parents when we stick that child in a corner, we don't feed it the milk of the word enough so it can learn to eat the meat of the word.

WE seek out riches and the things of this world while neglecting little Benjamin.

Benjamin became corrupt and was almost completely destroyed, but a way was found to replenish Benjamin.
Provision for Benjamin's Survival
…20And they commanded the sons of Benjamin, saying, "Go and lie in wait in the vineyards, 21and watch; and behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to take part in the dances, then you shall come out of the vineyards and each of you shall catch his wife from the daughters of Shiloh, and go to the land of Benjamin. 22"It shall come about, when their fathers or their brothers come to complain to us, that we shall say to them, 'Give them to us voluntarily, because we did not take for each man of Benjamin a wife in battle, nor did you give them to them, else you would now be guilty.'"…



1Then Jacob called for his sons and said: “Gather around so I can tell you what will happen to you in days to come.

The last days, the last group of 3's.


Genesis 49 is a 12 step ladder in your walk with God.

You begin in the first 3 which is bad but you move up, you begin sacrificing in Judah, the word goes out in Zebulun and you witness, but in Isaachar, you haven't commited and your on a fence. Dan comes and punishes you and you bend your knee and pray the prayer. You get stronger in Gad and you just keep climbing.

It's both a ladder and a timeline, and the last 3 shows what the people of God become in the last days, and Benjamin will have his time.

God's people are set free in Naphtali and Joseph comes

But then comes Benjamin.

Naphtali is a doe set free
that bears beautiful fawns.j
22“Joseph is a fruitful vine,
a fruitful vine near a spring,
whose branches climb over a wall.k
23With bitterness archers attacked him;
they shot at him with hostility.
24But his bow remained steady,
his strong arms stayedl limber,
because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,
because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,
25because of your father’s God, who helps you,
because of the Almighty,m who blesses you
with blessings of the skies above,
blessings of the deep springs below,
blessings of the breast and womb.
26Your father’s blessings are greater
than the blessings of the ancient mountains,
thann the bounty of the age-old hills.
Let all these rest on the head of Joseph,
on the brow of the prince amongo his brothers.




27“Benjamin is a ravenous wolf;
in the morning he devours the prey,
in the evening he divides the plunder.”

 

[HannibalFlavius]

Why is the design of the kingdom of heaven shown in 3 parts being Elijah, Moses, and Jesus?


It is the same reason why the Temple is in 3 sections because the Temple is only built in the design of the kingdom of heaven, and it's 3 divisions , 3 divisions of priests having a 3 fold ministry with 3 main feasts.

The Way
The Truth
The life

A progressive walk through 3 divisions of the Temple, each progressive step shows a progressiveness of righteousness.

We all begin in the outer court, but only the true people of God may enter the Temple.

As you walk in the Temple, it goes from Brazen to silver to Gold, and with each progressive step toward the Holy of Holies, it is a progression of where you are in your walk with God.

Will you be found residing in the Outer court and be considered still a gentile?

Or will you be found in the sections of God's two witnesses who have progressed?

 

[HannibalFlavius]

October 16/17 2013 Elijah begins the 40 days of Elul
30 days later(november 14/15 2013) will be the feast of trumpets(rosh hashanah) and will be "the day of the lord" which is the judgement on america and some say a harvest whether it be 1 of 3 harvests:



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I'm certainly not one to talk because I have come up with strange dates myself in the past, But I wouldn't agree with your calendar of when Rosh Hashanah is.

Just sayin.

 

[Jon Anon]

I'm certainly not one to talk because I have come up with strange dates myself in the past, But I wouldn't agree with your calendar of when Rosh Hashanah is.

Just sayin.

Would you agree that it is possible that Elijah will lead the true month or as it is observed 40 days of Elul as this is the most repentant time of the year and leads up to the true feast of trumpets and ends on Yom Kippur

WHat more appropriate time for Elijah to appear than the most repentant time of the year leading up to Rosh Hashanah which is also known as "the day of the lord" and we know from Malachi 4 that Elijah is sent BEFORE the day of the lord Or in other words Elijah arrives before Rosh Hashanah(day of the lord)

 

[precepts]

What I see is a language that most people do not see.

I don't care what language you see, my questions and points were in plain English.

I don't expect you to see what I see, because I seriously doubt you are in to all the traditions and prayers spoken on the 7 feast days of Christ.

That's an excuse for perverting scripture.

If you don't keep up with the cycle that begins on Simchat Torah, then you miss out on a great deal of language being used.

Israelis don't have a calendar from day one in Eden. It's ridiculous for you to think you do. Another excuse.

It's just like reading Revelation, Revelation is filled with Prayers, traditions and rituals that are spoken on exact days.

Something that only you can see eventhough Revelation is written in plain English by a Christian. Example please.

If you do not know the rituals and traditions and prayers, it is extremely hard to read Revelation or any of the prophets.

What kind of fool am I? Just another one of your lame excuses.

Where I see 3 Passovers, 3 unleavened breads, 3 firstfruits, 3 Pentecosts, 3 feasts of Tabernacles, 3 Yom Kippors, 3 Shemini Aretzereth, I'm sure that you probably don't.

Not if it's written in English.

I see these prophets talking about the third Passover, the third Sukkot, the 3rd Pentecost, but unless you are very familiar with the Mission days of appointed visitation days of Christ, you will not see what I see.

Poppy [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].

I'll give you an example.

If Heaven endured silence for a space of a half an hour, what day is it?
If the kingdoms of the world have become the kingdoms of the Lord, what day is it?
If the night time turns to day, what day is it?

None of these statement relate to any Ewish tradition. You've been decieved.

What are the prayers spoken on Shemini Atzereth?

The prayers recently devised by Israelis.

The reason that we will not see eye to eye, is going to be because I keep the cycles and the traditions and prayers that are a language to themselves.

I doubt that. God's true calendar has been hidden from world since the NT. You're decieved by the reinvented Israelian culture.

Example.


Ezekiel 45:21.


We have Passover, Pentecost, Yom Kippor and Sukkot happening in a single day.

But would you notice, and know why?

I would know why not because the three occur on different dates in different months.

Of course we are going to see different things if I have chosen all the 7 and even 8 Holy days of Jesus and you do not.

That would be a great assumption on your part, wouldn't it?

Of course we are not going to see eye to eye, if one of us is lacking an entire language which evolves around the 7 feasts of Christ with all it's traditions, rituals and prayers.

We won't see eye to eye because one of us isn't using logic.

Jesus stood up in the Temple and spoke from Isaiah 61 and then said it was fulfilled in their ears.

What was the exact date that Jesus spoke from Isaiah?

It sure wasn't anno domini yrs and I doubt you know because God's true calendar has only recently resurfaced, base on clues left in scripture. I'm sure Israelis haven't got wind of this yet because it would undermind everything they've accomplish so far in their attempts to recreate/reinvent Israel.

When God sent Moses to bring a Passover to Israel in which they left Egypt, being brought out of a nation by God, it was not the first Passover.

I agree.

Before God brought Israel out of Egypt, he had been doing the same thing to other nations.
He had caused Assyria to be slaves to a nation, and then he chose a man like Moses and led those people out.

Says who?

Amos
"Are not you Israelites the same to me as the Cushites?" declares the LORD. "Did I not bring Israel up from Egypt, the Philistines from Caphtor and the Arameans from Kir?
God bringing nations out of other nations like Israel was brought out of Egypt has been a continual sort of thing,

True God judges all nations and sets up and tears down leaders but I think you're taking it out of context. The context you're trying to put it in is as if God is acting on the behalf of their gods.

But Israel has 3 Passovers that speak of 3 Passovers that Jesus has to fulfill. The first Passover was out of Egypt, the second Passover was Jesus dying, but the prophets talk about a third Passover in many places.

Totally unscriptural except for Christ being the passover lamb.

Notice what happens to the Egyptians being the same thing that God had done to Israel, they will also have their 40 years to wait, But God will also gather them from the nations where they were dispersed, just as he promises Israel to do the same, the Assyrians also have this promise, and all 3 become one.
Egypt, Assyria, and Israel become one people with one set of Holy days because they all go through the same things that God had done to, and for Israel.

Egypt's 40 yrs was a coincidence. God said and promised the same thing to all the nations conquered by Babylon. Egypt and Assyria aren't exceptions.

The Egyptians are calling out for a Messiah right now.
But here is some very interesting scriptures about Egyptians.

Which is out of context because, for the umpteeneth time, happened post Babylon, from the fall of Babylon thru the Maccabean heresy to the times of Rome.

29 In the tenth year, in the tenth month, in the twelfth day of the month, the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Pharaoh king of Egypt, and prophesy against him, and against all Egypt:
3 Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself.
4 But I will put hooks in thy jaws, and I will cause the fish of thy rivers to stick unto thy scales, and I will bring thee up out of the midst of thy rivers, and all the fish of thy rivers shall stick unto thy scales.
5 And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven.
6 And all the inhabitants of Egypt shall know that I am the Lord, because they have been a staff of reed to the house of Israel.
7 When they took hold of thee by thy hand, thou didst break, and rend all their shoulder: and when they leaned upon thee, thou brakest, and madest all their loins to be at a stand.
8 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will bring a sword upon thee, and cut off man and beast out of thee.
9 And the land of Egypt shall be desolate and waste; and they shall know that I am the Lord: because he hath said, The river is mine, and I have made it.
10 Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia.
11 No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.
12 And I will make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate, and her cities among the cities that are laid waste shall be desolate forty years: and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries.
13 Yet thus saith the Lord God; At the end of forty years will I gather the Egyptians from the people whither they were scattered:
14 And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return into the land of Pathros, into the land of their habitation; and they shall be there a base kingdom.
15 It shall be the basest of the kingdoms; neither shall it exalt itself any more above the nations: for I will diminish them, that they shall no more rule over the nations.
The language being used in these scriptures is showing the same language and things done to Israel.

And for the umpteeneth and one time, it was fulfilled post Babylon. How can you know so much about holy days and sacred rites and not know the scriptures? These were fulfilled post Babylon.

You said I will never see and ignored my last response which included Eze 30:10's statement of Egypt being destroyed by Babylon. That's your clue and you answer to the context of these verses and situation.

 

[HannibalFlavius]

Would you agree that it is possible that Elijah will lead the true month or as it is observed 40 days of Elul as this is the most repentant time of the year and leads up to the true feast of trumpets and ends on Yom Kippur

WHat more appropriate time for Elijah to appear than the most repentant time of the year leading up to Rosh Hashanah which is also known as "the day of the lord" and we know from Malachi 4 that Elijah is sent BEFORE the day of the lord Or in other words Elijah arrives before Rosh Hashanah(day of the lord)

Never can tell what I'll agree with.

I would tell anyone that the coming of Elijah happens for Passover where the traditions show his coming, putting a cup of wine for him being present.

Having said that, I would also say that on Passover, Yom Kippor happened, and what the fall rain of the coming of Jesus shows is all the Holy days happening.

Elul is certainly a time of repentance, and maybe there is something to it.

But I would say again and again, The mission of Elijah is to bring the other kingdom to Judah in order to make the two one.

His mission is about gentiles, and so was John's mission.

To prepare a highway for the return of God's lost sheep, to the flock of Judah.

To make the two one, John prepared gentiles who had to be redeemed through marriage.


There are two witnesses, one is a witness and friend of the groom, the other is an attendant to the bride.

So when we talk of Elijah, I am thinking of one of two witnesses, and Elijah's job is not the same job as the job of Moses.

 

[precepts]

Why is the design of the kingdom of heaven shown in 3 parts being Elijah, Moses, and Jesus?

What makes you think it is? Because Eliyah and Moses appeared to Christ?

It is the same reason why the Temple is in 3 sections because the Temple is only built in the design of the kingdom of heaven, and it's 3 divisions , 3 divisions of priests having a 3 fold ministry with 3 main feasts.

Revelation might have divisions of threes but the temple and the priesthood doesn't. The priesthood consist of the Eleazar, Phinehas, and their sons.

The Way
The Truth
The life

A progressive walk through 3 divisions of the Temple, each progressive step shows a progressiveness of righteousness.

If it can't be proven by scriptures I can't accept it.

We all begin in the outer court, but only the true people of God may enter the Temple.

As you walk in the Temple, it goes from Brazen to silver to Gold, and with each progressive step toward the Holy of Holies, it is a progression of where you are in your walk with God.

I don't think that has anything to do with anything.

Will you be found residing in the Outer court and be considered still a gentile?

Gentiles couldn't enter the courtyard. You should of known that. That's one of the defilement in the OT abomination of desolation and the reason for John not measuring the temple courtyard in Revelation.

Or will you be found in the sections of God's two witnesses who have progressed?

Unscriptural.

 

[Jon Anon]

Never can tell what I'll agree with.

I would tell anyone that the coming of Elijah happens for Passover where the traditions show his coming, putting a cup of wine for him being present.

Having said that, I would also say that on Passover, Yom Kippor happened, and what the fall rain of the coming of Jesus shows is all the Holy days happening.

Elul is certainly a time of repentance, and maybe there is something to it.

But I would say again and again, The mission of Elijah is to bring the other kingdom to Judah in order to make the two one.

His mission is about gentiles, and so was John's mission.

To prepare a highway for the return of God's lost sheep, to the flock of Judah.

To make the two one, John prepared gentiles who had to be redeemed through marriage.


There are two witnesses, one is a witness and friend of the groom, the other is an attendant to the bride.

So when we talk of Elijah, I am thinking of one of two witnesses, and Elijah's job is not the same job as the job of Moses.

You post a lot of good posts...I like that you see the reuniting of the two houses

 

[HannibalFlavius]

What makes you think it is? Because Eliyah and Moses appeared to Christ?


Revelation might have divisions of threes but the temple and the priesthood doesn't. The priesthood consist of the Eleazar, Phinehas, and their sons.


If it can't be proven by scriptures I can't accept it.


I don't think that has anything to do with anything.


Gentiles couldn't enter the courtyard. You should of known that. That's one of the defilement in the OT abomination of desolation and the reason for John not measuring the temple courtyard in Revelation.


Unscriptural.

I don't mind if you don't accept anything I say, I still love ya.

The Temple does show 3 sections and the outer court is a court of gentiles, and is given to gentiles.

There are 3 divisions of Priests and in those divisions are 24 divisions that represent 24 ribs that protect the inner heart.

There are 24 elders out of 3 divisions that are assigned specific ministry labors.

Just like the ribs are in 3 divisions.

John that Baptist father was among these 24 elders, and there was 2 times a year that his division would minister.

Exact prayers spoken on exact days.

 

[HannibalFlavius]

The 3 divisions of priests.

Merari was stationed North of the Temple
Gershon is stationed West of the Temple
Kohath is stationed South of the Temple.


Out of these 3 are 24 elders and these all have names, and are mentioned in Revelation as surrounding the throne just as the ribs surround your heart, and inside are the 4 beast which we all choose.