When will Elijah the prophet appear in the world?

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The first thing we need to determine is when is "The great and terrible day of the lord"?

We know from Malachi 4:5-6:
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse


So we know Elijah comes BEFORE the curse....so before the tribulation starts.

When paul is speaking of 'the day of the lord' in 1 thessalonians 5:3 he says they will be saying peace and safety right before the day of the lord begins so it is a pre-tribulation time that Elijah arrives on the scene because Elijah will be sent "BEFORE" the day of the lord:

1 thessalonians 5:3:
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction comes upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.



The next question would be:
How long before the day of the lord does Elijah come to turn the hearts of the children to the fathers and the heart of the fathers to the children?

With television and media sources I would think 40 days would be an ample amount of time for a God sent Elijah to send a message of repentance to the people so let's work with 40 days which in the bible represents time of testing or judgement and the same period of time ninevah received to turn back to God in Jonahs time.

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When John the baptist came in the power and spirit of Elijah he came clearing a path for the arrival of messiah(Jesus)

When the last day Elijah comes he will clear a path for the arrival of "the day of the lord" in a time of judgement.

When God brings judgement he brings your enemies against you to deliver the rod of discipline and then later breaks that rod when he is finished using it.

The day of the lord may be the judgement of the united states and the carrying away captive of the small remnant that will survive the judement which will be taken into captivity and through a furnace of affliction made into a holy people

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When a moshiach(anointed one) arrives there is a pattern of showing up and then going back into hiding and then reappearing which should be the same thing Elijah will do

examples of anointed ones arriving then going into hiding then reappearing

1. Moses ruler in Egypt then went into desert for 40 years before arriving as deliverer of Hebrew children

2. Eiljah test with the prophets of baal then was afraid of Jezebel and then went into hiding to reappear later

3. Jesus arrived 2000 years ago to be our atonement for sin and after being gone for 2000 years will reappear in the end


4. The final Elijah should appear with a 40 day call to repentance before the judgement and then go into the wilderness just as most all of Gods servants do as even Jesus was 40 days in the wilderness before his beginning of his ministry


The question is what sign will bring forth the final Elijah?

Perhaps the sign of the woman clothed with the sun and moon under her feet of Ocotber 6 2013 will be the sign that brings forth the final Elijah with a 40 day call to repentance before the great and terrible day of the lord:

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The next thing we need to look at is the misconception that the tribulation period is only 7 years long when revelation 2:10 states you will have tribulation 10 days which represent 10 years:
Rev 2:10:
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer : behold , the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried ; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

There is a time known as Jacobs trouble and people automatically throw this time period in with the 7 year tribulation when actually it should be 42 months prior and separate to the 7 year tribulation bringing the total tribulation to 10 days(years) as stated in Rev 2:10


This time period will coincide with the fulfillment of the 3 fall feasts that need to be fulfilled:

1. Feast of trumpets(Day of the lord)
2. Feast of Yom Kippur(10 days later) representing 10 years
3. Feast of Tabernacles(1000 year millinium)


The time period between Feast of trumpet and Yom kippur are known as 10 days of awe but in actuality they will be 10 years of awe and will end with the death of the two witnesses being the official day of atonement(Yom kippur) as the tishri 1-10 are merely rehearsals to the true fulfillment of the fall feast which could not be celebrated with as much rememberance if they were celebrated with the true 10 years of awe so just 10 days of awe between feast of trumpets and yom kippur are celebrated each year to keep those fall feasts in rememberance


So when the judgement of America comes it will be considered the true Feast of trumpets date and possibly it will be 40 days after the final Elijah shows up which could be October 6 2013. The true yom kippur date will be the final day of the two witnesses testimony and death
 

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Assuming that one of the two witnesses is Elijah, then it will be right after or maybe right before the Gog/Magog invasion. His testimony would last through the first 1260 days of the 7 years following Gog/Magog. It is likely to begin in the fall of some year.


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I believe jesus also said elijah " shall" come which is future tense

Matthew 17:11

And Jesus answered and said to them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.


1. Shall come is future tense
2. Did John restore all things?
Try reading the next verse:
12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished.
 
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Try reading the next verse:
12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished.

Just because john was one fulfillment does not mean the final elijah which was a prophet that called fire down from the sky just as the two witnesses of revelation 11 will do and will be the final fulfillment of the one that jesus said "shall" come
 
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Just because john was one fulfillment does not mean the final elijah which was a prophet that called fire down from the sky just as the two witnesses of revelation 11 will do and will be the final fulfillment of the one that jesus said "shall" come
Yeah...well try verse 12 and 13 on for size...
12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”
13 Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist.


John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah...that's what the disciples understood.

The next time you see Elijah, will be in heaven.
 
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Doug bro, its more believable that God is going to raise two Jews in the future to the office of prophets. Because we've had 2k years of gentile domination in Christendom we've been programmed to overlook that its very probable and I'm expecting this that we will have two future Jewish prophets oh God ministering with the 144k Jewish evangelists. Just want to impute that thought since most don't even consider that.
 
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Jon Anon said:
I believe jesus also said elijah " shall" come which is future tense

Matthew 17:11

And Jesus answered and said to them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

1. Shall come is future tense
2. Did John restore all things?

Amen
 
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Jon Anon said:
The first thing we need to determine is when is "The great and terrible day of the lord"?

We know from Malachi 4:5-6:
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse

So we know Elijah comes BEFORE the curse....so before the tribulation starts.

When paul is speaking of 'the day of the lord' in 1 thessalonians 5:3 he says they will be saying peace and safety right before the day of the lord begins so it is a pre-tribulation time that Elijah arrives on the scene because Elijah will be sent "BEFORE" the day of the lord:

1 thessalonians 5:3:
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction comes upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

The next question would be:
How long before the day of the lord does Elijah come to turn the hearts of the children to the fathers and the heart of the fathers to the children?

With television and media sources I would think 40 days would be an ample amount of time for a God sent Elijah to send a message of repentance to the people so let's work with 40 days which in the bible represents time of testing or judgement and the same period of time ninevah received to turn back to God in Jonahs time.

When John the baptist came in the power and spirit of Elijah he came clearing a path for the arrival of messiah(Jesus)

When the last day Elijah comes he will clear a path for the arrival of "the day of the lord" in a time of judgement.

When God brings judgement he brings your enemies against you to deliver the rod of discipline and then later breaks that rod when he is finished using it.

The day of the lord may be the judgement of the united states and the carrying away captive of the small remnant that will survive the judement which will be taken into captivity and through a furnace of affliction made into a holy people

When a moshiach(anointed one) arrives there is a pattern of showing up and then going back into hiding and then reappearing which should be the same thing Elijah will do

examples of anointed ones arriving then going into hiding then reappearing

1. Moses ruler in Egypt then went into desert for 40 years before arriving as deliverer of Hebrew children

2. Eiljah test with the prophets of baal then was afraid of Jezebel and then went into hiding to reappear later

3. Jesus arrived 2000 years ago to be our atonement for sin and after being gone for 2000 years will reappear in the end

4. The final Elijah should appear with a 40 day call to repentance before the judgement and then go into the wilderness just as most all of Gods servants do as even Jesus was 40 days in the wilderness before his beginning of his ministry

The question is what sign will bring forth the final Elijah?

Perhaps the sign of the woman clothed with the sun and moon under her feet of Ocotber 6 2013 will be the sign that brings forth the final Elijah with a 40 day call to repentance before the great and terrible day of the lord:

The next thing we need to look at is the misconception that the tribulation period is only 7 years long when revelation 2:10 states you will have tribulation 10 days which represent 10 years:
Rev 2:10:
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer : behold , the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried ; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

There is a time known as Jacobs trouble and people automatically throw this time period in with the 7 year tribulation when actually it should be 42 months prior and separate to the 7 year tribulation bringing the total tribulation to 10 days(years) as stated in Rev 2:10

This time period will coincide with the fulfillment of the 3 fall feasts that need to be fulfilled:

1. Feast of trumpets(Day of the lord)
2. Feast of Yom Kippur(10 days later) representing 10 years
3. Feast of Tabernacles(1000 year millinium)

The time period between Feast of trumpet and Yom kippur are known as 10 days of awe but in actuality they will be 10 years of awe and will end with the death of the two witnesses being the official day of atonement(Yom kippur) as the tishri 1-10 are merely rehearsals to the true fulfillment of the fall feast which could not be celebrated with as much rememberance if they were celebrated with the true 10 years of awe so just 10 days of awe between feast of trumpets and yom kippur are celebrated each year to keep those fall feasts in rememberance

So when the judgement of America comes it will be considered the true Feast of trumpets date and possibly it will be 40 days after the final Elijah shows up which could be October 6 2013. The true yom kippur date will be the final day of the two witnesses testimony and death

Can't say I would agree with all you've said here bud. You need to read The Footsteps of the Messiah! By dr Fruchtenbaum
 
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Yeah...well try verse 12 and 13 on for size...
12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”
13 Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist.


John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah...that's what the disciples understood.

The next time you see Elijah, will be in heaven.

Jesus never said the next time you see elijah will be in heaven....because john wa only one fullfillment of elijah but you are blind to the elijah that "shall" come because of the teachings of man and not the inspiration of the holy spirit
 
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Jesus never said the next time you see elijah will be in heaven....because john wa only one fullfillment of elijah but you are blind to the elijah that "shall" come because of the teachings of man and not the inspiration of the holy spirit
Nope...not blind by any means...I'm not the one buying into a gospel in the stars.

But I certainly can read. Jesus clearly said Elijah already came. The passage says the disciples understood...but it says nothing about a future fulfillment..nor did the Lord say.

We'll see...:thumbsup:
 
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Jon Anon said:
Jesus never said the next time you see elijah will be in heaven....because john wa only one fullfillment of elijah but you are blind to the elijah that "shall" come because of the teachings of man and not the inspiration of the holy spirit

Don't worry bout ebed he's my son :(
 
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Doug bro, its more believable that God is going to raise two Jews in the future to the office of prophets. Because we've had 2k years of gentile domination in Christendom we've been programmed to overlook that its very probable and I'm expecting this that we will have two future Jewish prophets oh God ministering with the 144k Jewish evangelists. Just want to impute that thought since most don't even consider that.

I can't say that is wrong.


Doug
 
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