The Snare

[Loudmouth]

Dear Loud, That is evidence of common ancestry of Chimps and the sons of God (prehistoric man.) We did NOT inherit our human intelligence from Apes and you have NO evidence which supports this.

The 200,000 shared ERV's are proof that we evolved from a common ancestor with chimps, and you have not presented anything that puts this in doubt. Nothing.

Then tell us HOW and When this happened. Was it 200k years ago or 6 million years ago? Explain the mechanism which caused the change.

The mutations that separate us from chimps occurred over the last 5-7 million years, the time since we diverged from our common ancestor.

Then WHY were Neandertal not smarter than us? They had larger brains. Right?

Perhaps they were. Ever thought of that?

Because you don't know the difference between Humans and animals.

It is the same as the difference between a chihuahua and a dog.

Then show us how a Theory is better than fact. Your precious TOE is wong.

How is it wrong. Please show us the evidence that shows it to be wrong. I am still waiting for this evidence.

YOUR religious beliefs give you the ridiculous idea that Apes magically changed into Humans. What a laugh.

And now you can't tell the difference between a scientific theory and religion.

Do you believe EVERYthing a person who calls himself a scientist says?

Not at all. What I do accept is the evidence, something that your refuse to accept.

You FAITH is in man's knowlege, while you reject God's Holy Word.

The Bible was written by men. You are aware of this, are you not?

Also, I don't have faith in man's knowledge. Instead, I look at the evidence and come to my own conclusions.

Aman:>>It CANNOT. Can YOU? Of course not, but you have swallowed the false notion that this happened hundreds of thousands of years ago and that we have actual evidence for this happening. We do NOT have evidence of this happening.

Our genomes are a direct record of our evolutionary past, and that record includes a shared ancestor with other apes.

The Theory of Evolution is NOT Science.

Still waiting for you to bring any evidence to bear on this claim. All we have is your plugging your ears, covering your eyes, and repeating your mantras over and over. Time to face the music.

Not me. I agree with EVERY scientific discovery.

Then please explain why we share genetic markers with apes that can only be explained by sharing a common ancestor with other apes. ERV's are a scientific discovery.

It's the False Theory of Evolution which I disagree with. How many times must I tell you?

And yet you can not show one piece of evidence that led you to disagree with the theory.

Sure, unlike the worshippers of man's knowledge, I have evidence. It's inside YOU.

Inside you is the DNA of Mt. Eve who lived more than 150k ago. Also inside you is the highest form of intelligence in Creation. It's the human intelligence of Adam. Can you tell us HOW both got inside you? When you can, you will know God's Truth.

What evidence do you have that our intelligence came from a mythological man named Adam?

What evidence do you have that an most recent common ancestor for our mitochondrial DNA in any way supports the Genesis myth. Do you understand how MRCA's work? If you did, you wouldn't be making these grandiose claims. Perhaps this picture will help you:

Mitochondrial Eve is but one of our ancestors amongst many. If you travelled back in time to meet mitochondrial Eve she would just be a regular woman in a regular population of other men and women. Her title now as the most recent common ancestor of our mitochondria is a fluke of history. Mitochondrial Eve was not the sole female ancestor of modern humans, and neither was Y-chromosome Adam.

Again, you are speaking of NON-human evolution which I have NO problem with.

I am talking about humans evolving from an ancestor that we share with chimps.

My problem is that YOU keep falsely thinking that we are STILL animals.

You haven't shown why it is false. Did chihuahuas stop being dogs? Did parrots stop being birds?

We are animals. We ingest food. We respond to stimuli. We move around. That makes us animals.

We evolved into Humans when Noah's grandsons married and produced people with the Human intelligence of Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet of Great Apes.

Where did I ever say that we evolved on the Planet of the Great Apes? Also, you still refuse to even start to present evidence for you claims

IT IS TIME FOR US TO SEE EVIDENCE!! WHERE IS IT??

We would STILL be living in Caves and chasing animals in order to eat IF Noah had not arrived here.

Evidence please.

In the 10k years since Noah arrived, we have gone from Caves to the Moon and back.

You haven't even presented evidence that Noah was a real person yet.

[qutoe]
Loud:>>I have all of the evidence pointing to the evolution of humans from a common ancestor with chimps.

Then post it.[;quote]

Already did.

http://www.pnas.org/content/96/18/10254.long

Loud:>>Where on this map does it have evidence for Noah?

The Big Lake at the center right is the largest Lake in Turkey. Noah probably arrived here since it's the biggest Lake in the mountains of Ararat.[/quote]

Evidence please.

Where else would you put a 450 foot long Boat?

What 450 foot long boat? Evidence please.

Notice that the area is between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, from which came this world's Human Civilization. Proof of this is that the OLDEST Human cities, on this Planet were built by Noah's great grandsons.

How does the existence of two rivers demonstrate that Noah was a real person? You still have not explained this.

I can find tales of Paul Bunyan that mention forests in Minnesota. If I find forests in Minnesota, is this proof that Paul Bunyan was real?

IF you don't believe me, then tell us of an OLDER Human city than those built by Noah's grandsons.

You haven't presented any evidence that Noah was a real person, or that Noah had grandsons, nor that Noah's grandsons built anything. All you have is claims with no evidence.

 

[Loudmouth]

Sure you have, in your own mind. All you have shown me is that you have done little more than parrot the False TOE, in which you have placed your faith, while ignoring God's Truth.

You still have not even attempted to face up to the evidence.

I thought you might try saying that the classification system was dreamed up by a Christian, and then completly changed by heathens. I'm denying that Carl Linnaeus is more correct than God's "kinds" system. Carl was just a man. What you are trying to tell us is that a man kinows more than God. How silly.

The Bible was written by men. You are condemning your own source.

The Justice System of the United States and most civilized countries recognize that anmals don't have the ability to understand right from wrong, so animals are not tried legally.

So now you have faith in the writings of fallible, mortal men? Your tune changes by the second.

I've seen NO evidence of human traits being demonstrated on this Planet until some 10,000 years ago.

Look no further than Australopithecines 3 million years ago with their short and broad pelvises, just like those found in humans. Millions of years ago we find modern cranial features in H. erectus. Obviously, you know very little of the fossil record.

I am sorry that you have accepted man's Fable of evolution, instead of God's Truth.

I accept the evidence which you ignore.

Would you like to tell us when whatever diverged from Chimps became fully human? Please don't tell us it was 200k ago, since you will have to explain why it took 190k years for these so called "humans" to grow themselves something to eat and built themselves a house, instead of living in a hole in the ground or a Cave.

You are aware that people even today live like you describe, and they are just as intelligent as we are. You really need to get out more.

Aman:>>Should we keep referring to ourselves as animals.

Loud:>>Do we respond to stimuli?
Do we ingest food?
Are we ambulatory?
If you answer yes to all three, then yes, we are an animal.

Aman:>>Animals are innocent before God but Humans MUST give an accounting for the deeds done in the body.

Loud:>>Evidence please.

Genesis 3:22 King James Version (KJV)

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of US, (the Trinity, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) to know good and evil:

Those are the writings of mortal men which you already stated that you will not accept.

You might as well call yourself a fetus, for you were that after you were an Ape?

Stages of embryonic development are not the same as ancestral relationships. They never have been. Like I said, you need to learn some basic biology.

I'm asking because you seem to be stuck on being an Ape? Since the Ape phase was NOT experienced by any Humans, WHY do you keep thinking you're an Ape?

Humans are apes just as we are also primates, also mammals, also vertebrates, also animals, and also eukaryotes. Do you know how taxonomy works or not? You never stop being what your ancestors were. Evolution is descent with modification, not change into something completely different.

Sure, but since we are now Humans, WHY do you keep thinking you came from Apes.

We are apes in the same way that we are mammals, we are vertebrates, and we are animals.

The sons of God came from Apes, but Humans were made billions of years BEFORE Apes. Still don't understand time. Do you?

Still don't understand what evidence is, do you?

No they were not.

Evidence please.

This will be proven when we go to other Planets and find the sons of God there. Where ever we find liquid water, we will find life, but NOT human life, since there was but ONE Ark. ONLY the descendants of Adam have his superior intelligence level.

Made up stories are not evidence.

NO creature, whose origin was in the water, has this high an intelligece level. ONLY God and the descendants of Adam have human intelligence.

Evidence for God and Adam please.

Gobbledegoop, spurred on my mistaken men who don't know that Humans did not originate on this Planet. They FALSELY suppose that this is the only Earth made. All of their thinking is contaminated by this "belief."

Please show how their results were contaminated by this belief. Please be specific.

From Chimps came the sons of God and when the sons of God married Noah's grandsons, we changed from animal intelligence to the higher intelligence level of Adam. NO evoolution involved.

Baased on what evidence?

Correction. You have shown support for the evolution or adaptation of the sons of God from a common ancestor with Chimps. You keep forgetting that Humans were made Billions of years BEFORE Chimps.

Still waiting for evidence of this claim.

Come on now. You're looking at yourself in the Mirror again. Right?

You are the one who refuses to look at evidence because it was found by mortal men, and then you turn around and cite the Bible as evidence even though it was written by mortal men. Double standard much?

No you won't. I have given you God's evidence and you have rejected it and His Holy Word.

You have shown me claims, not evidence. Do you know the difference or not?

I've given you God's Word on it and you have rejected His Word outright. Is that because you THINK you know more than God?

You have shown me the writings of men.

Now, the problem comes to the top. You THINK ancient men wrote the Bible but can come up with NO answers when I ask you HOW ancient men of 3k years ago knew the things which today's Science is just now discovering?

They didn't know things that modern science knows. That's the whole point. Nowhere in the Bible do we find mention of our universe expanding from a singularity 13 billion years ago. Nowhere.

You have NO answers, only a constant cry for "evidence."

You have no evidence, and therefore no truth.

Since bacteria is the oldest, we should call ourselves bacteria. Right?

We did not descend from modern bacteria. We evolved from our common ancestor with bacteria, and from the looks of it those common ancestors were different from both eukaryotes and prokaryotes.

Sure I do, and I agree. We inherited the genetic markers from Mitochondrial Eve, a descendant of the sons of God (Prehistoric people) who lived 150,000 years ago.

The LTR divergence of the ERV's puts them at millions of years old. Our common ancestor with other species of apes had to exist millions of years ago to explain the divergence we see in ERV's and other genetic markers. Your explanation does not fit the evidence.

That means that we are NO longer Natural people, for we have inherited the Jackpot of the Universe. We are Humans and we are destined to rule EVERYthing, Eternally, thanks to Jesus.

Based on what evidence?

Your Godless unbelief leads to death and rot and loss. It must be terribly hard to sell to people who are alive forevermore in Christ.

In Love,
Aman

Show me any evidence that people are alive forevermore. Any.

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Dear Cab, There is NO evidence of long periods of time and multiple mutations producing human intelligence in Apes.
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Cab:>>That's strange since we have already supplied you with that evidence.

Dear Cab, Correction: What you have supplied is evidence of the evolution of Apes to the sons of God (Prehistoric man). What you have NOT shown is the we inherited our human intelligence from animals. We did NOT evolve our Human intelligence from ANY other creature on this Planet. We inherited the Human intelligence of Adam, who lived on another Earth, which was destroyed in the Flood.


Aman:>>Your idea that evolution produces human intelligence in Apes cannot be repeated.

Cab:>>The evolution of humans left evidence that can be repeatedly tested. That makes it scientific. If we evolved from a common ancestor with chimps then we should be able to find shared genetic markers, and we do. We find 200,000 endogenous retroviruses in the human and chimp genomes that occur at the same position in each genome. Given the random nature of retroviral insertion, this can only be explaned by the inheritance of these markers from the same ancestor.

I didn't say that we did not inherit the genetic markers of the sons of God. (Prehistoric man) ALL of us have the DNA of Mt. Eve, but we are NOT still prehistoric people and we did NOT inherit our Human intelligence from animals. We changed from animal to human intelligence when Noah arrived. Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry. They produced descendants of Adam (humans) with the prehistoric people who were already here when Noah arrived. The SAME thing happened on the 1st Earth when Cain married a descendant of the sons of God on that Earth. Gen. 6:4

Cab:>>We have undeniable evidence that we share a common ancestor with chimps.

Not mentally. Our human intelligence is what makes us Special. We inherited it from Adam who was made with a much higher intelligence level than ANY other creature except God, Himself. We are destined to have dominion over every other living creature and that is WHY we were made billions of years BEFORE any creature whose origin was in the water, 3.7 Billion years ago. Adam was alive BEFORE the plants were made, BEFORE trees grew, BEFORE the Sun, Moon, and Stars lit up our world, and BEFORE any other living creature. Genesis 2:4-7

Loud:>>Next, the mutations. Would you agree that the difference in human and chimp intelligence is due to the differences in our genome? Yes or no.

Since you cannot study the genome of intelligence. because it's invisible, you should stop looking for it in the physical genome. The correct answer is NO. Try again?

In Love,
Aman

 

[Loudmouth]

What you have NOT shown is the we inherited our human intelligence from animals. We did NOT evolve our Human intelligence from ANY other creature on this Planet. We inherited the Human intelligence of Adam, who lived on another Earth, which was destroyed in the Flood.

Still waiting for you to show evidence for this claim.

I didn't say that we did not inherit the genetic markers of the sons of God. (Prehistoric man) ALL of us have the DNA of Mt. Eve, but we are NOT still prehistoric people and we did NOT inherit our Human intelligence from animals.

Still waiting for your evidence for this claim.

We changed from animal to human intelligence when Noah arrived.

Still waiting for evidence that Noah existed and did what you claim he did.

Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry. They produced descendants of Adam (humans) with the prehistoric people who were already here when Noah arrived. The SAME thing happened on the 1st Earth when Cain married a descendant of the sons of God on that Earth. Gen. 6:4

Still waiting for evidence for these claims.

Cab:>>We have undeniable evidence that we share a common ancestor with chimps.

Not mentally. Our human intelligence is what makes us Special. We inherited it from Adam . . .

Need evidence for this claim.

Since you cannot study the genome of intelligence. because it's invisible, you should stop looking for it in the physical genome. The correct answer is NO. Try again?

Please show that our intelligence is not due to our physical genome.

This is another bare assertion from you.

 

[Aman777]

Loud:>>Evidence please.

Aman:>>Where else would you put a 450 foot long Boat?
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Loud:>>What 450 foot long boat? Evidence please.

Dear Loud, God told Noah to make the Ark 300 cubits (450 feet) long. Noah believed God and did what God told him to do. Genesis 6:13.

Aman:>>Notice that the area is between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, from which came this world's Human Civilization. Proof of this is that the OLDEST Human cities, on this Planet were built by Noah's great grandsons.

Loud:>>How does the existence of two rivers demonstrate that Noah was a real person? You still have not explained this.

Just as YOU have not explained How and When the concept of evolution produced human intelligence in Apes. Mesopotamia means "land between the rivers." It's where human civilization began, at the same time Noah arrived.

Loud:>>I can find tales of Paul Bunyan that mention forests in Minnesota. If I find forests in Minnesota, is this proof that Paul Bunyan was real?

The tale of Paul Bunyan was written by a man. I have shown you that NO man of the time could have possibly written Genesis and you have NO refute to offer. Do not compare the words of a man with the Holy Word of God.

Aman:>>IF you don't believe me, then tell us of an OLDER Human city than those built by Noah's grandsons.
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Loud:>>You haven't presented any evidence that Noah was a real person, or that Noah had grandsons, nor that Noah's grandsons built anything. All you have is claims with no evidence.

I have the BEST and ONLY evidence available. Read Genesis 10 and you will find that the first human cities on this earth are listed there. These are the FIRST human cities because there were NO humans on this Planet until Noah arrived.

The fact that you disagree has NOTHING to do with what History and Archaelogy confirm. The only disagreement comes from Evols who must plead ignorance of origins to cover their False belief in Magical Chemical Generation, and other such foolishness. ie. The latest fiction is that we came from Nothing. In the end such stupidity will be exposed for the silliness that it most certainly is.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

Loud:>>Still waiting for you to show evidence for this claim.

Dear Loud, I once tried to show evidence that Today is the 6th Day to a Moron. The more I tried the more he asked for more evidence. Years later I find another person asking for evidence without telling us of their views. Until you decide to stick your neck out and actually post something positive, I will ignore your cries for more evidence.

Any moron can post disagreement with any post, but it takes a lot more for that same moron to actually refute something instead of just asking for more evidence. This is what the moron, from long ago, taught me.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

Hitch:>>No one knows what was before the BB, not even ancient man.

Dear Hitch, Read Genesis 1:1-13 and you will be reading of a time BEFORE the Big Bang which happened on the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4

Hitch:>>"EVERY" living creature did not come from the water.

God says it did.
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

Should we believe YOU or God?

Hitch:>>There is no "formula for making other humans."

Correction: YOU don't know where to find it. I will give you a clue. It's in Genesis 6:4.

Hitch:>>Noah never existed and we have clear evidence for the evolution of brain size and intelligence.

Noah is the missing link between humans and animals. He is also the FIRST human to walk on this Earth. The sons of God (Prehistoric man) came from the water and NOT from Adam. Therefore, they were NOT Human.

Hitch:>>There is nothing in the bible, whatsoever, that could not have been written by men with current knowledge of the time.

Then explain WHY Genesis 2:4 tells us of the dating of the Big Bang when today's so called science must plead ignorance of the time BEFORE the BB.

Hitch:>>Although, instructions on how to build an iPad would have been pretty impressive. As for the bible being the "word of god," all I've seen are word written by men, who claim they speak on his behalf. Big difference.

It's probably because you haven't been born Spiritually. If not, then Scripture will be "Foolishness to You" and impossible for you to comprehend. Unless you find Jesus, you will remain in your present condition.

Hitch:>>Your entire line of reasoning has been: I believe my interpretation of the bible is right because the bible says it's right. Tautology indeed.

False accusation. I support what I write with the agreement of Scripture, Science and History. Since that is too high a standard for most Evols, they soon sink into name calling and implying I'm nuts. It's because they view God's Holy Word as a Fable instead of seeing it as the thoughts of the Supreme Intelligence of creation.

It's easier to refute the theology of ancient men of 3k years ago, than it is to actually refute what God told us in Genesis. A true understanding of Genesis shows that the TOE is totally wrong and filled with gigantic errors.

In Love,
Aman

 

[HitchSlap]

Hitch:>>No one knows what was before the BB, not even ancient man.

Dear Hitch, Read Genesis 1:1-13 and you will be reading of a time BEFORE the Big Bang which happened on the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4

Hitch:>>"EVERY" living creature did not come from the water.

God says it did.
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

Should we believe YOU or God?

Hitch:>>There is no "formula for making other humans."

Correction: YOU don't know where to find it. I will give you a clue. It's in Genesis 6:4.

Hitch:>>Noah never existed and we have clear evidence for the evolution of brain size and intelligence.

Noah is the missing link between humans and animals. He is also the FIRST human to walk on this Earth. The sons of God (Prehistoric man) came from the water and NOT from Adam. Therefore, they were NOT Human.

Hitch:>>There is nothing in the bible, whatsoever, that could not have been written by men with current knowledge of the time.

Then explain WHY Genesis 2:4 tells us of the dating of the Big Bang when today's so called science must plead ignorance of the time BEFORE the BB.

Hitch:>>Although, instructions on how to build an iPad would have been pretty impressive. As for the bible being the "word of god," all I've seen are word written by men, who claim they speak on his behalf. Big difference.

It's probably because you haven't been born Spiritually. If not, then Scripture will be "Foolishness to You" and impossible for you to comprehend. Unless you find Jesus, you will remain in your present condition.

Hitch:>>Your entire line of reasoning has been: I believe my interpretation of the bible is right because the bible says it's right. Tautology indeed.

False accusation. I support what I write with the agreement of Scripture, Science and History. Since that is too high a standard for most Evols, they soon sink into name calling and implying I'm nuts. It's because they view God's Holy Word as a Fable instead of seeing it as the thoughts of the Supreme Intelligence of creation.

It's easier to refute the theology of ancient men of 3k years ago, than it is to actually refute what God told us in Genesis. A true understanding of Genesis shows that the TOE is totally wrong and filled with gigantic errors.

In Love,
Aman

You interpret the bible as you see fit, ignore the fact it was written by men, include science as it supports your beliefs, and reject that which contradicts your understanding of reality, all the while not offering on shred of demonstrable evidence to support your claims.

 

[Aman777]

Aman:>>Your posting strategy is to ask for more and more evidence and then discount the entire conversation by claiming that you have refuted your opponant's view.
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Loud:>>My strategy is to ask for evidence and then point out that you have not supplied any.

Dear Loud, That way, no one notices that YOU haven't said anything positive. You can be dumb as a post and still ask for evidence until the cows come home. Eventually your opponant tires of your incessant pleading for more and more evidence, then leaves and you claim victory.

So go ahead. I had rather you claim victory now than to try to supply you with unending, boring, evidence, which you obviously have no ability to comprehend. It reminds me of the "do nothing" tactics of the Republicans in the House. How long have you been a Republican?

In Love,
Aman

 

[HitchSlap]

Aman:>>Your posting strategy is to ask for more and more evidence and then discount the entire conversation by claiming that you have refuted your opponant's view.
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Loud:>>My strategy is to ask for evidence and then point out that you have not supplied any.

Dear Loud, That way, no one notices that YOU haven't said anything positive. You can be dumb as a post and still ask for evidence until the cows come home. Eventually your opponant tires of your incessant pleading for more and more evidence, then leaves and you claim victory.

So go ahead. I had rather you claim victory now than to try to supply you with unending, boring, evidence, which you obviously have no ability to comprehend. It reminds me of the "do nothing" tactics of the Republicans in the House. How long have you been a Republican?

In Love,
Aman

Are you familiar with Scott Weitzenhoffer's remarks about debating creationists?

 

[Aman777]

You interpret the bible as you see fit, ignore the fact it was written by men, include science as it supports your beliefs, and reject that which contradicts your understanding of reality, all the while not offering on shred of demonstrable evidence to support your claims.

Dear Hitch, It should be easy for someone of your intelligence to show us WHERE I have misinterpreted Scripture. Instead, you make broad accusations supported by nothing but your own personal opinion. Either show us where I misinterpret Scripture or everyone will see that it is YOU who, like Lucifer, THINKS he knows more than God.

I support what I write with Science but NOT Science misused, as in the case of the obviously flawed Theory of Evolution. The TOE is NOT Science, but instead is a concept or flawed THEORY of men. It is based on the misinterpretation of the facts concerning our origin. The TOE does NOT agree with Scripture nor History.

History confirms that humans SUDDENLY arrived in Northern Mesopotamia and soon built cities demonstrating their higher intelligence levels by starting agriculture on this Planet, building cities, and developing technology like humans had on the first Earth with NO evolution.

This is NO evidence that long periods of time and numerous mutations produced human intelligence in animals. IOW, Evolution is Wrong. Humans came from other humans, and NOT from animals. We were first made, but Evols falsely teach that we evolved from other living things. God's Truth slices through the false assumptions of men and reveals that we were first made in order to give us first place in Heaven.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

Are you familiar with Scott Weitzenhoffer's remarks about debating creationists?

Hitch:>>Are you familiar with Scott Weitzenhoffer's remarks about debating creationists?

Dear Hitch, No, but I'll bet you do. Post away.

In Love,
Aman

 

[HitchSlap]

Hitch:>>Are you familiar with Scott Weitzenhoffer's remarks about debating creationists?

Dear Hitch, No, but I'll bet you do. Post away.

In Love,
Aman

Do you know what a quark is?

 

[Aman777]

Hitch:>>Do you know what a quark is?

Dear Hitch, A proton is composed of two ups and one down quarks. It's itty bitty.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Dear Hitch, Sure. Tell us how ancient man knew:

That the Big Bang was on the 3rd Day.
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Loud:>>Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the universe expanded from a singularity. You are making stuff up again.

Dear Loud, Genesis 1:1 begins by telling us the 3 elements created before the first Day. It was air, dust, and water. Jesus took some of the air, dust, and water, and changed it into energy by causing a Singularity. Exactly as Jesus knew it would, matter inflated from the Black hole made by the first of the first Huge Stars to implode and become a Singularity which produced other Universes.

Can you tell us HOW ancient man knew this? It's proof of God, for ONLY God could know this scientific Truth thousands of years ago, and leave the story in His Holy Word for a man to read and understand. The story has been there for thousands of years but we are just now beginning to understand that it was written by the Supreme intelligence of creation. His name is Jesus.

Millions of years later, the Universe had cooled enough to become visible.Genesis 2:4 gives us the Day this Big Bang happened. It was the 3rd Day the SAME Day the first Earth was made, which was the 3rd Day according to Genesis 1:9-10. God also got the FACT that Stars didn't shine until the 4th Day, which was millions of years AFTER the Big Bang. This is a recent scientific discovery. There is NO way any ancient man could have possibly known this.

Aman:>>That EVERY living creature came from the water.
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Loud:>>Did you come from the water? I don't know about you, but I came from my mother. Perhaps you parents have not taught you about the birds and the bees?

Mine taught me that I was born when her WATER broke. Perhaps you were floating in beer or some other exotic drink? Are you sure you know about the birds and bees? Your knowledge of the first living bacteria on this Earth is weak. Could it be because the first life on this Planet came from water?

Aman:>>Refute that Scripturally, since I don't accept the "faith based beliefs" of mere, mortal men who put the words of men above those of God.
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Loud:>>Scriptures are the faith based writings of mortal men.

Your silly ideas will change as you lay on your face in front of Jesus who is brighter than the Sun. It'll be too late then to complain that no one told you the Truth, for your Judge will be the Truth. His name is Jesus. God have mercy on your soul.

In Love,
Aman

 

[CabVet]

Dear Hitch, A proton is composed of two ups and one down quarks. It's itty bitty.

That doesn't come even close to answering the question. It's like someone asking "what is a brick?" and you answering that "a wall is made of bricks".

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Dear Hitch, A proton is composed of two ups and one down quarks. It's itty bitty.
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Cab:>>That doesn't come even close to answering the question.

Dear Cab, Then look it up for yourself. You seem to be foaming at the mouth to tell us how much YOU know about quarks. So, go ahead and tell us. I promise to act impressed.

Cab:>>It's like someone asking "what is a brick?" and you answering that "a wall is made of bricks".

Get over it or everyone will see that your knowledge of quarks will go over like a ton of bricks. The longer you wait, the more irrelevant your great knowledge becomes. So get with it and impress us with your scientific prowess. Spit it out!

BTW, Are you located in the South?

In Love,
Aman

 

[Loudmouth]

Dear Loud, That way, no one notices that YOU haven't said anything positive.

I am the only one who has cited actual peer reviewed scientific papers that contain evidence which backs my claims.

All you have done is make bare assertion after bare assertion with absolutely no evidence to back them at all.

You can be dumb as a post and still ask for evidence until the cows come home. Eventually your opponant tires of your incessant pleading for more and more evidence, then leaves and you claim victory.

You haven't presented any evidence, so how could I ask for more?

 

[Loudmouth]

Dear Loud, Genesis 1:1 begins by telling us the 3 elements created before the first Day. It was air, dust, and water. Jesus took some of the air, dust, and water, and changed it into energy by causing a Singularity.

Nowhere in Genesis 1:1 does it say that Jesus did anything, or that there was a singularity. In fact, Jesus isn't mentioned anywhere in Genesis at all. There is no mention of the cosmic microwave background, galactic redshift, or anything else related to the Big Bang.

Can you tell us HOW ancient man knew this?

They didn't. You are making it up as you go along.

Millions of years later, the Universe had cooled enough to become visible.Genesis 2:4 gives us the Day this Big Bang happened.

No, it doesn't. Nowhere does it say that the Universe began to expand 13 billion years ago.

Mine taught me that I was born when her WATER broke.

Seriously? This is your argument?

We do not come from the water. We come about through biological reproduction.

Your silly ideas will change as you lay on your face in front of Jesus who is brighter than the Sun. It'll be too late then to complain that no one told you the Truth, for your Judge will be the Truth. His name is Jesus. God have mercy on your soul.

So now you are reduced to making empty threats.

 

[Loudmouth]

Dear Loud, I once tried to show evidence that Today is the 6th Day to a Moron.

You made empty assertions. That is not evidence.

Do you know what evidence is?

Any moron can post disagreement with any post, but it takes a lot more for that same moron to actually refute something instead of just asking for more evidence. This is what the moron, from long ago, taught me.

In Love,
Aman

Anyone can make empty assertions. Not everyone can back up their assertions with evidence.