What else do you believe? (Creationists only please)

What else to you believe? (Creationists only please)

  • Global warming / climate change is not happening or is a hoax.

  • Vaccinations are dangerous and should not be used.

  • The Earth is flat like a disc.

  • The Holocaust did not happen.

  • Members of the government (or other influencial people) are aliens.

  • The American Government was secretly behind 9/11.

  • None of the above.


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selfinflikted

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I am in total agreement with all of you that it is ridiculously selfish.
Let me repeat myself. I am apathetic. Maybe you missed that part.

Regardless of your apathy, it's still selfish.

Do you have kids? Why are you apathetic about this?
 
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Really? My wife and I don't practice abstinence. ;)

That being said, I agree with you about the CO2 comment.
But, I'm apathetic. I don't care about the survival or beauty of the planet beyond the scope of my own enjoyment of it. Thus, I do conserve, but not to stop the phenomenon, just to slow it down enough to get what I want from it. That's all I was saying. I'm not an advocate of saving the world for the world's sake.

Oh, and I guess it was wrong of me to answer the poll, because I do believe in evolution, but I believe in a creator and coordinator of it, so I thought I qualified. Sorry.

Just in case you don't understand why people are saying it's selfish, I highlighted the selfish part in red.
 
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Thanks, chap, but I totally know what I said, and I was not oblivious to how selfish it was when I wrote it.
Furthermore, if you really want to know, I'm Christian for much the same reason.
What, do you think it's love for my fellow man that inspired me to jump on the free-ride-to-eternal-life wagon?
No. If I was into the well being of others, I'd being pushing the lot of you onto that wagon, and I'd be like the brave sea captain that goes down with his ship.
So, I've really had to ask myself: What am I really doing?
I'm only recycling for myself.
I'm only driving a hybrid for myself.
I'm only eating healthy for myself.
I'm only supporting business that take a global sustainability mindset for myself.
And, perhaps the icing on the cake, is that my being a Christian only benefits me...
So, thank you all for not being oblivious to my selfishness.
It is choking me to death, it's so obvious to me!
The way I've chosen to hide my self-disgust from the world is to harden myself in apathy.
To go on being recklessly selfish, but to just not feel it anymore.
Shame, isn't it?
 
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Thanks, chap, but I totally know what I said, and I was not oblivious to how selfish it was when I wrote it.
Furthermore, if you really want to know, I'm Christian for much the same reason.
What, do you think it's love for my fellow man that inspired me to jump on the free-ride-to-eternal-life wagon?
No. If I was into the well being of others, I'd being pushing the lot of you onto that wagon, and I'd be like the brave sea captain that goes down with his ship.
So, I've really had to ask myself: What am I really doing?
I'm only recycling for myself.
I'm only driving a hybrid for myself.
I'm only eating healthy for myself.
I'm only supporting business that take a global sustainability mindset for myself.
And, perhaps the icing on the cake, is that my being a Christian only benefits me...
So, thank you all for not being oblivious to my selfishness.
It is choking me to death, it's so obvious to me!
The way I've chosen to hide my self-disgust from the world is to harden myself in apathy.
To go on being recklessly selfish, but to just not feel it anymore.
Shame, isn't it?

What a healthy outlook on life you have. I love the conflicting beliefs though. Last time I checked, Jesus scorned the greedy and selfish.
 
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What a healthy outlook on life you have. I love the conflicting beliefs though. Last time I checked, Jesus scorned the greedy and selfish.

Yeah, I got the same results last time I checked.
What should I do with that?
 
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Thanks, chap, but I totally know what I said, and I was not oblivious to how selfish it was when I wrote it.
Furthermore, if you really want to know, I'm Christian for much the same reason.
What, do you think it's love for my fellow man that inspired me to jump on the free-ride-to-eternal-life wagon?
No. If I was into the well being of others, I'd being pushing the lot of you onto that wagon, and I'd be like the brave sea captain that goes down with his ship.
So, I've really had to ask myself: What am I really doing?
I'm only recycling for myself.
I'm only driving a hybrid for myself.
I'm only eating healthy for myself.
I'm only supporting business that take a global sustainability mindset for myself.
And, perhaps the icing on the cake, is that my being a Christian only benefits me...
So, thank you all for not being oblivious to my selfishness.
It is choking me to death, it's so obvious to me!
The way I've chosen to hide my self-disgust from the world is to harden myself in apathy.
To go on being recklessly selfish, but to just not feel it anymore.
Shame, isn't it?

Well, your self-servingness (??) just got completely overshadowed by your honesty.

If I thought for one second god was real, I'd worship him for exactly the same reason you claim to. :thumbsup:
 
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How does one attack words in a book? if you attack the believer you naturally attack what they believe but it doesn't work the other way around, after all who is at fault with any belief? the belief or the believer? without a believer there can be no belief.

Logic is obviously not one of your strong points.

And your weak point is reading comprehension. Maybe if I t-y-p-e-d s-l-o-w-e-r...............:)
 
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Of course it's "magic grapefruit" in a "magic orchard" (it's called outer space outside of earthism btw) since anything not conforming to methodological earthism is derided. Not only must your "theory" that the sun is in the atmosphere be refuted, but we must turn around and provide evidence that the sun is in outer space to a man who believes that all things will one day have a purely earthly cause. Futile endeavors aside, a refutation is all that's needed. When you have one however, feel free to drop it in the allotted slot. Or you can just cry outer space of the "scientific" gaps.

I think you're getting confused about which side of the argument you're defending.
 
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Then you give us some creationist information that does not invite ridicule, the very idea of creationism invites ridicule, even the people who believe it seem to be begging to be ridiculed.

It's one thing to believe in something that might or might not be, but it's quite another to believe in something that is completely impossible, like the creation, walking on water, the tower of Babel or the flood etc. especially when we have evidence to the contrary, denial is not a belief.

You need to be more specific.
Science has a Creation story....and if your minds accepts that matter is constantly blinking in and out of existence and that matter won the battle over anti-matter and that the expansion of space is accelerating, I don't see why you have problems with a little water acting oddly.
 
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You need to be more specific.
You are right, everything needs to be more specific except religion, religion can be unspecific or just downright crazy and that's OK, why? because only sad needy people believe it anyway so it doesn't really matter because they will believe anything.
 
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Succinct, true and to the point, I concur.

The lack of education added to brainwashing and stupidity means that the creationists are the last people in the world to realise that it's happening to them, they just can't or won't see it.

How children are indoctrinated today is how it what was done to them years ago, you don't need to be blind not to see,
some just choose not to see.

While there is a mild negative correlation with higher education, the hard sciences as well as most "higher Education" is focused on earthly values, and away from spiritual Truth. So the correlation is to be expected.
 
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While there is a mild negative correlation with higher education, the hard sciences as well as most "higher Education" is focused on earthly values, and away from spiritual Truth. So the correlation is to be expected.
If you can get them to believe in fairy tales they won't need an education and the lack of education will in turn keep them believing in fairy tales for a lot longer.

The good thing about creationism is that it keeps them close to home and the church, it's the only places people don't laugh at them.

I'm curious, do you think Mormons, JW's and Scientologists are misguided?
 
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Note: If you click "None of the above" I'll assume you agree with all of the below:

- Global Warming / Climate change is a real phenomenon.

Global Warming may be an actual analysis. Here in Milwaukee the Glacial ice sheet thickness during the last Ice Age was estimated at about 10 stories and in places about 2/3 the height of the sears tower in Chicago.


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Many of us believe that change happens.
But to think that we could counteract the kind of forces that melted that ice
(long before we started making ice cubes of our own)
may well be a fantasy of man's ego.

Our contribution to global warming might be like that of a bonfire built on the surface of a glacier.

And then there is the evidence that CO2 increases FOLLOW global warming trends in the past, rather than precede them.

Plus there is evidence that huge temperature swings are part of the "Normal" global weather patterns and that humans have only been around in most mild conditions.


- Vaccinations are useful and help protect us against diseases.
We expose our bodies to the pathogen to build up
a natural immunity to it. We are SO clever.

Can you IMAGINE how Neanderthal that will look after we actually
figure out how to selectively stop a pathogen BEFORE we get infected?



- The world is a sphere.
From a human viewpoint, the world is as flat as can be.

Nobody uses sphere shaped maps to accomplish anything. Not even NASA. I don't think there are such things as curved vectors. I'm not sure there is even a language for curved vectors. "Flat" is 99.9 percent accurate and 100% useful for human communication.


- The Holocaust
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This topic is not allowed in most discussion forums.

- Aliens do not exist / have not been discovered - they have no influence over the lives of humans.
There is no evidence of life off our planet.

Islamic extremists were responsible for 9/11
I've not looked too far into this topic.


-Sky
 
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Skywriting said:
Nobody uses sphere shaped maps to accomplish anything. Not even NASA. I don't think there are such things as curved vectors. I'm not sure there is even a language for curved vectors. I'm not sure there is even a language for curved vectors. "Flat" is 99.9 percent accurate and 100% useful for human communication.

True but I was talking about the planet, not maps. :p
 
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I'm curious, do you think Mormons, JW's and Scientologists are misguided?
Mormons are not guided at all. They are pretty much on their own to figure it out for themselves. The Jw's work more at a high school level, but I think they do their best to teach people the Bible. I do no not know anything about scientology.
 
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