Obama Suspends Campaign-Erratic And Hypocrtical Behavior

[Bootstrap]

Then people shouldn't attack McCain when he was trying to save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people from a potentially devestating situation.

Nobody does attack him for that. People do attack him for being particularly clueless, erratic, and ineffective in the way he did so, and for injecting presidential politics into delicate negotiations about issues he didn't understand on committees he was not a member of.

And nobody makes a big deal out of McCain taking time off either. He takes at least one day off each weekend, sometimes two. That was never the issue. Obama has worked most weekends, now he takes two days off because he has a sick grandmother and you want to turn it into political hay.

McCain's campaign will never try to turn this into political hay. It would be suicide.

Jonathan

 

[Ringo84]

Tsk tsk...it's a shame to see the effects that desperation has on good people. It really is.

Obama's grandmother is gravely ill, and he felt the need to go see her. I don't know of many people - whether they were running for dogcatcher or POTUS - that wouldn't want to see their grandmother at such a time. This is not "erratic" behavior.

What's most infuriating is that Obama just can't win with some people. He goes to see his grandmother, and he gets accused of "erratic behavior". He doesn't go to see his grandmother, and he gets accused of not caring. Either way, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
Ringo

 

[jamesrwright3]

That's exactly what you're doing.

That is what the media did when McCain suspending the campaign when the matter was of national security and hundreds of thousands of more people could have been affected and the Sec. OF Treasury asked for McCain's assistance.

McCain is one out of a hundred senators; Obama is one out of two grandchildren.

And McCain was a key in getting Republican support for the package-something that Pelosi said she would not even try to pass without Repub support. He is one of a hundred Senators,. but was one of the most important ones in getting it passed..without his voicing support it wouldn't have passed.

McCain is not the Republican minority leader nor the Republican whip nor is he even on any finance or banking committee. What was his special expertise that he and only he could resolve in the crisis that would necessitate his suspending his campaign and that he would also call for Obama to suspend his?

He is one of the most senior senators and the party's Presidential candidate which basically makes him the most important person in the party right now.

No, apples and oranges; the personal and the political]

Sorry not apples and oranges. One in the same. McCain's behavior was not erratic..he suspended his campaign when there was a lot more at stake.

 

[jamesrwright3]

Tsk tsk...it's a shame to see the effects that desperation has on good people. It really is.

Obama's grandmother is gravely ill, and he felt the need to go see her. I don't know of many people - whether they were running for dogcatcher or POTUS - that wouldn't want to see their grandmother at such a time. This is not "erratic" behavior.

What's most infuriating is that Obama just can't win with some people. He goes to see his grandmother, and he gets accused of "erratic behavior". He doesn't go to see his grandmother, and he gets accused of not caring. Either way, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
Ringo

I think he should go see his grandmother, but you are going to allow Obama to suspend his campaign and not be called erratic when one person is going to be affected then you can't logically say McCain's behavior was erratic when he suspended the campaign when the negative consequences could have been devestating effects for millions of Americans including deaths and homelessness.

 

[Ringo84]

McCain knee-jerked on an important issue and didn't show calm, cool and collected leadership. Obama is stopping his campaign for a few days in order to see his sick grandmother. I don't see much in the way of similarity.
Ringo

 

[Bootstrap]

Did mccain tell obama just to call him if things get really bad?

I wonder if obama is at her bedside trying to get her to repent for being a typical white person racist.

Aren't you a doctor? Is this the way you talk to the family gathered around a deathbed?

Can you point to one time that Obama has called *anyone* a "typical white person racist"? Yet you have to use his grandmother's illness as an opportunity to promote one more vivid smear.

To me, compassionate love is central to what it means to be a Christian. I'd like to see more of it here. They'll only know that we are Christians by our love if we display it here and there.

Jonathan

 

[jamesrwright3]

McCain knee-jerked on an important issue and didn't show calm, cool and collected leadership. Obama is stopping his campaign for a few days in order to see his sick grandmother. I don't see much in the way of similarity.
Ringo

Obama showed lack of leadership..he wanted to phone it in. Call me if you need me..And Paulson didn't ask for Obama's assistance..He asked for McCain since the Republicans weren't onboard and the Dems wouldn't bring it up for a vote without Republican support.

 

[JBJoe]

Not making a political issue out of it at all. I am simply pointing out the fact the media try to paint McCain as erratic when he was called by the Sec. Treasury to come back and try to get legislation passed for a situation that could have caused hundreds of thousands of people to lose their jobs/healthcare and lord knows how many suicides/heart attacks..etc.
So it is agreed that McCain was not erratic for suspending his campaign and trying to prevent a major catastrophe?

You know, I bet if we dig into your story of what transpired between Paulson and McCain, we'd find that you are severely spinning the story to cast McCain in a better light.

*checking google*

Yup.

Paulson didn't call McCain, he called Lindsey Graham.
Paulson didn't ask McCain to return to DC (obviously since he didn't call him), he asked that he provide political cover to republican representatives so they'd vote for the bill. Something that could have been covered by working the phones on the campaign trail - no suspension necessary.
This bill trying to prevent a major catastrophe? Yeah, well it failed largely due to Republicans. Maybe if McCain had hopped on a plane for DC when he suspended his campaign rather than campaigning after he suspended his campaign...
And the suspension didn't last until the bill was passed.

So yeah, McCain's suspension - largely a stunt.

Equating McCain's suspension to Obama's: absolutely unconscionable.

 

[Ringo84]

Obama showed lack of leadership..he wanted to phone it in. Call me if you need me..lol.

In other words, this is leftover resentment from the campaign suspension controversy.

Everything can't stop because a crisis arises. If that's how we ran this country, nothing would ever get done. I don't want to see presidential candidates knee-jerkingly suspending their campaign for every little crisis that arises. I want them to demonstrate that they can coolly analyze the situation before making snap judgments.
Ringo

 

[praying]

Yes, I am feeling the family values and Christian love!

Indeed it's shameful that ones political affiliation could trump everything.

 

[kermit]

Obama showed lack of leadership..he wanted to phone it in. Call me if you need me..And Paulson didn't ask for Obama's assistance..He asked for McCain since the Republicans weren't onboard and the Dems wouldn't bring it up for a vote without Republican support.

I work for a very large multi-national corporation. I work very effectively with a number of people all over the world whom I have never even met face to face. So did either McCain or Obama need to be physically in Washington?

 

[jamesrwright3]

In other words, this is leftover resentment from the campaign suspension controversy.

In other words I am pointing out media and liberal hypocrisy.

 

[Trevorocity]

McCain is also an adulterer and a divorcee and no Catholic can in good conscience vote for him. Or they're also going to Hell for disobeying the Pope.

You know, I bet if we dig into your story of what transpired between Paulson and McCain, we'd find that you are severely spinning the story to cast McCain in a better light.

*checking google*

Yup.

Paulson didn't call McCain, he called Lindsey Graham.
Paulson didn't ask McCain to return to DC (obviously since he didn't call him), he asked that he provide political cover to republican representatives so they'd vote for the bill. Something that could have been covered by working the phones on the campaign trail - no suspension necessary.
This bill trying to prevent a major catastrophe? Yeah, well it failed largely due to Republicans. Maybe if McCain had hopped on a plane for DC when he suspended his campaign rather than campaigning after he suspended his campaign...
And the suspension didn't last until the bill was passed.

So yeah, McCain's suspension - largely a stunt.

Equating McCain's suspension to Obama's: absolutely unconscionable.

 

[jamesrwright3]

I work for a very large multi-national corporation. I work very effectively with a number of people all over the world whom I have never even met face to face. So did either McCain or Obama need to be physically in Washington?

Uhh what could it hurt? It would be better to err on the side of caution in light of such a major issue. People generally think face to face is better than the phone for important negotiations. Maybe instead of meeting face to face we could save money..forget sending the President abroad anymore..He can just call it in and save us airfare and reduce carbon emissions.

 

[Bootstrap]

I think he should go see his grandmother

Me too. It shows the right priorities.

but you are going to allow Obama to suspend his campaign and not be called erratic when one person is going to be affected then you can't logically say McCain's behavior was erratic when he suspended the campaign ...

But that's not why people called him erratic.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27266223/

In the case of Mr. McCain, I found that he was a little unsure as to deal with the economic problems that we were having and almost every day there was a different approach to the problem. And that concerned me, sensing that he didn't have a complete grasp of the economic problems that we had. And I was also concerned at the selection of Governor Palin. She's a very distinguished woman, and she's to be admired; but at the same time, now that we have had a chance to watch her for some seven weeks, I don't believe she's ready to be president of the United States, which is the job of the vice president. And so that raised some question in my mind as to the judgment that Senator McCain made.

McCain takes a day or two off every weekend. Nobody makes a big deal out of it or even mentions it. Obama is now taking two days off to visit his sick grandmother. Nobody sane will call either of them erratic for taking two days off.

You and I may disagree whether McCain seemed erratic in what he did in Washington for the bailout, but I don't think you'll find anyone who would say it's erratic to take a day or two off the campaign trail for something important.

Jonathan

 

[JoyJuice]

Sorry dude shows you are grasping for straws. John McCain has actually worked across the aisle. The Dems didn't want to pass a strictly Democratic bill. Paulson asked for his assitance tto try to get people onboard. He came back and tried instead of saying hey..I will call you if you need me. McCain came back and did his job..in case you didn't know..he is being paid to be a Senator. And in case you didn't know, Obama is the one that came in and blew up the meeting at the White House with his partisan rhetoric and Pelosi didn't help with hers right before the vote.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-f...ned-bailout-would-fail-unless-mccain-got-invo

McCain did not work across the aisle. The point was to bring him in specifically to reel in the GOP.....in which he failed to do.

He lacks leadership in his own party which many leaders within the GOP are fleeding from him to Obama.

 

[Nathan45]

Hypocrisy at its finest! These same folks here criticized Edwards for not suspending his campaign when his wife got cancer.

Have some compassion!!!

What is wrong with you people?

I believe that Lisa is calling the republicans hypocrites here. Otherwise the remark about Edwards doesn't make sense.

Obama's grandmother is merely ill..not a big deal..everyone's grandmother gets ill. Why does he have to suspend his campaign?

Just keep talking. What else is on your mind?

 

[CaDan]

Did mccain tell obama just to call him if things get really bad?

I wonder if obama is at her bedside trying to get her to repent for being a typical white person racist.

Have you left, sir, no sense of decency?

 

[JBJoe]

Did mccain tell obama just to call him if things get really bad?

I wonder if obama is at her bedside trying to get her to repent for being a typical white person racist.

Wow... Just, wow... It takes an awful lot of hate to say something like that, even to a political opponent.

 

[fated]

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2008/10/21/20081021obama1021.html

Obama has called McCains suspension of his campaign erratic..but the country was on the verge of a financial meltdown and the Treasury secretary personally called him and ASKED him to come back to help drum up financial support. Obama's grandmother is merely ill..not a big deal..everyone's grandmother gets ill. Why does he have to suspend his campaign? Can't he campaign in Hawaii? Doesn't the country need him now? Will people not hearing his calm, soothing voice for a couple of days cause a widespread panic?

She's old, he is probably doing the prudent thing by going to see her. I hope all is well with his family in this possibly very difficult time for him.