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Out of the three monotheistic, abramic religions the only one with any merit is Judaism. Because they dont say "if you dont devote the one and only life you have to us, you will burn in hell for all eternity. but dont forget....God loves you!"

what a joke.
One and only life? Its like 75 years average, heaven is foever!!!!

I think its an honor to be able to live for God while on the Earth.
 
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Please leaving God is a big mistake. I mean you may have some fun living without God but its going to end someday. And you can have a good life believing in God.


Ahhh, the true mark of a real Christian, Love. It is so sweet to read your comments MehGuy.

All the earth declares the glory of God, the Moon is His witness. The fool has said in his heart, there is no God. Listen to Me, you who are stubborn-hearted, Who are far from righteousness: I bring My righteousness near, it shall not be far off. My salvation shall not linger. Remember this, and show yourselves men; Recall to mind O you transgressors, Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other.

As we say: The proof is in the puddin'. Not one Bible prophecy has failed and neither shall any fail in the present nor in the future.

God is not racist, He calls the whole world to repentance. He forgives all manner of sin. He does not desire the destruction of the wicked, he is married to the backslider. God warns us not to touch His people. Those that opposed His people in the Old Testament was set to flight or either destroyed because they chose to come against His people. They worshipped graven images that were made by man.

Stirring up strife among the brethren is one of the thing God hates. Are you seeking truth? Or do you post out of contention?

As far as tithes and offerings are concerned, He desires nothing of you that you do not want to willingly give: Let every man give has he has purposed in his heart; not grudgingly...for God loves a cheerful giver.

You imply that our God has no mercy: SEEK THE LORD WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND, CALL UPON HIM WHILE HE IS NEAR. LET THE WICKED FORSAKE HIS WAY, AND THE UNRIGHTEOUS MAN HIS THOUGHTS. LET HIM RETURN TO THE LORD AND OUR GOD, AND HE WILL HAVE MERCY ON HIM, FOR HE WILL ABUNDANTLY PARDON.

FOR MY THOUGHTS ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS, NOR YOUR WAYS MY WAYS, SAYS THE LORD. FOR HAS THE HEAVENS ARE HIGHER THAN THE EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS, AND MY THOUGHTS THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.
 
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Out of the three monotheistic, abramic religions the only one with any merit is Judaism. Because they dont say "if you dont devote the one and only life you have to us, you will burn in hell for all eternity. but dont forget....God loves you!"

what a joke.
STRAWMAN.

Like I said . . . false caricature. If your going to sling mud . . . at least sling something substantial.
 
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I do study. Science.

The thing is, no-one can know if there is a god or not. But to use ancient writings to base a life lived 2000 years after the purported events took place is clearly not in line with modern thinking.
Islam and Christianity are going about trying to MAKE armageddon happen. When Iran gets the bomb, probably in less than 10 years from now, we will see armageddon in the middle-east which will turn the entire area into a desert.
Wait a minute, it already is.
 
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I do study. Science.

The thing is, no-one can know if there is a god or not. But to use ancient writings to base a life lived 2000 years after the purported events took place is clearly not in line with modern thinking.
Islam and Christianity are going about trying to MAKE armageddon happen. When Iran gets the bomb, probably in less than 10 years from now, we will see armageddon in the middle-east which will turn the entire area into a desert.
Wait a minute, it already is.
Science . . . as in the modern scientific method? By this you cannot even prove you woke up this morning.

And, perhaps you should do some study on Anthony Flew . . . and his problems with NDE's.

Also, philosophically, science has provided all we need to know that there is indeed a God (that He IS . . . but science cannot prove WHO He is) . . . big bang, 2nd law of thermodynamics . . . plenty.
 
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I appreciate your sentiments lightbearer, I really do.
But after much contemplation, i have firmly come to beleive that religion is run by an elitist few to control and dupe the many.
I'm lucky that so far, i live in a secular society. Some say this will change with the mass migration of Muslims in the UK (they are out breeding us) but by that time i will be dead and not be bothered about it.

Surely i have the human right to think what i want?
 
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I do study. Science.

The thing is, no-one can know if there is a god or not. But to use ancient writings to base a life lived 2000 years after the purported events took place is clearly not in line with modern thinking.
Islam and Christianity are going about trying to MAKE armageddon happen. When Iran gets the bomb, probably in less than 10 years from now, we will see armageddon in the middle-east which will turn the entire area into a desert.
Wait a minute, it already is.
BTW, that would NOT be Islam and Christianity . . . it would be Islam and the STATE OF ISRAEL.
 
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I appreciate your sentiments lightbearer, I really do.
But after much contemplation, i have firmly come to beleive that religion is run by an elitist few to control and dupe the many.
I'm lucky that so far, i live in a secular society. Some say this will change with the mass migration of Muslims in the UK (they are out breeding us) but by that time i will be dead and not be bothered about it.

Surely i have the human right to think what i want?
Then change your faith icon . . .
 
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Sorry, my bad. But christianity is and will be involved.
Not in antagonism to Isalm . . . sorry dude. Perhaps some churches are involved in some political sense . . . but the Middle East controversy is over the LAND of PALESTINE which is a beef between MUSLIM claims and ISRAELI CLAIMS.

No stake for Christians boss . . . sorry. We look forward to a BETTER kingdom to COME . . . any TRUE christian would have NO stake in making things worse in the Middle East (save for being sent by their military).
 
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Then change your faith icon . . .
I don't know if we should be saying things like that.

I mean I think there is a time to have rightous anger and to rebuke but I don't think now.
 
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I will change my faith icon, just let me say this:

Sites like Youtube, where pro-creationist videos are posted have comments disabled; thus a one-sided debate.
I change my faith Icon, thus ends my chance to debate with christians.

Ok folks, i'm outta-here.
You can post questions and invite others to your debates just fine. But to say that you are a Christian when in fact you are NOT is lying. And be as it may that you are now an atheist, I am sure you can still agree that the moral virtue of truth is STILL a virtue.
 
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Not in antagonism to Isalm . . . sorry dude. Perhaps some churches are involved in some political sense . . . but the Middle East controversy is over the LAND of PALESTINE which is a beef between MUSLIM claims and ISRAELI CLAIMS.

No stake for Christians boss . . . sorry. We look forward to a BETTER kingdom to COME . . . any TRUE christian would have NO stake in making things worse in the Middle East (save for being sent by their military).
Ever heard of christian zionists? They are very rich you know, and are running the US goverment covertly.
 
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Our church is seeking God in a special way the next two days, there will be communion Friday night and prayer sent up for healing, restoration, etc. I will bring your name before The God of the whole earth that night, Neilus73. I and others will draw His attention to you at the altar. Get ready.

Yes, you have the right to have an opinion, those here will love you despite how you slander our God.
 
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I don't know if we should be saying things like that.

I mean I think there is a time to have rightous anger and to rebuke but I don't think now.
I did not rebuke him . . . but he does need to change his icon in keeping with truth. It is misleading.

If I had my way he could post wherever he wished . . . my concern is the appearance.
 
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You can post questions and invite others to your debates just fine. But to say that you are a Christian when in fact you are NOT is lying. And be as it may that you are now an atheist, I am sure you can still agree that the moral virtue of truth is STILL a virtue.
Actually, I was agnostic when i first joined, i changed to christianity because it seemed right at the time, now after thinking about it, my intellect transcends christianity because im more intelligent than that.
 
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Ever heard of christian zionists? They are very rich you know, and are running the US goverment covertly.
A fringe movement that nowhere near represents the whole of Christianity NOR orthodoxy. No cigar dude.
 
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I did not rebuke him . . . but he does need to change his icon in keeping with truth. It is misleading.

If I had my way he could post wherever he wished . . . my concern is the appearance.
I see what your saying, but it can sound like you are giving up on him. But well you came up with some good points :)
 
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