Not trying to be controversial here but...

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Ya know.... everyone seems to be saying that to me... :doh: My heart just doesn't wanna believe it.

He is one of those guys I can see myself marrying... it's hard for me to just let that walk away. And I don't wanna disappoint him either. Girls have treated him like crap. It think he is waiting for someone to prove to him we aren't all the same... and I wanna do that. That's why I choose to stay.
You sound like me before I married my ex. Seriously. You are essentially rescuing this guy. That is dangerous and codependent behavior. I can say that b/c I've done it myself. I won't go on too much here, but feel free to PM me if you want.
 
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nah, that'd be mean. I'm re-bottling the white merlot today. It was cloudy, but when it settled it looked awesome, so, it's pretty obvious I had some sediment in there.

I don't mean to brag, but this stuff is already awesome, and it hasn't even matured yet.
Sweet! :)
 
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i can conceive of things that would be seen as great. these are the reasons why i did it when i was in college.

i was young and stupid and couldn't deal with the fact that i had a bad family history. so pot, the drug intensifies the feel good receptors in your brain and made you feel high...thus high away from your problems. when your stoned, i think its very hard to harp on the problems in your life and when you haven't reached a maturity of dealing with things in your life good, the quick route becomes the most "matured". the sensations you get from the drug poisoning you, or making you high, is actually pretty "fleshly" if you will and quite satisfying for the moment.

but that's not an advantage in my opinion. its a drug that i'm convinced wastes your life away. you become addicted to that mental sensation of being free from the problems of life. its a mind tease with a little physical tease with it. even tho i'll never forget the one time i did it, i had vibrations all over my body, and another time i did, i kept rocking back and forth and the stoner/stupid hippie g/f i had just rubbed my back and saying its normal while we are all sitting in white suburbia getting high as a kite and your site become quite odd, at least mine did. thinking i was over a bridge when i was just driving on a street, or when i'm driving 65mph on the highway and everything looks like Star Wars(any episode).

so my opinion there is no real advantage, but there are moment of advantages for it. like any drug, that moment of release from the problems in your life is something enough reason to indulge yourself in that vice. it just it'll always end up not being an advantage at all.


Schmoe, I love your posts because they're all laced with common sense.

And I appreciate that you post it here with the Agnostic symbol in your prof because it reminds me that what we have in common is that we're guys, and I agree with alot of what you say because it's right, not because we're both reciting what we were told in church.

it's truth, not just blind faith, and I can get my head around that.
 
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But see, what's the difference?

I used to be addicted to running long distances. A 10 mile run is the only thing I have experienced to compare to getting high. It's that feeling... It's "mind-altering". So why is running 10 miles ok, but smoking a blunt isn't?

easy...first off, its illegal.

secondly, its introducing himself into a culture that is not good. do you want to be a part of that culture, the drug culture because by you being with him, you in turn get put into that drug culture.

thirdly, it risks the problem of drug dependency. its quite true that pot isn't physically addictive, but what i find funny is, you ask any pot smoker to stop smoking pot as they tell you it isn't physically addicting, they don't. after my 3-day DUI class, and learning about that drug as well, now i'm not saying i know it all, but i'm convinced there is the mental addiction aspect to it, and every stoner proves it. they don't stop or if they do, its like every other addict stopping something...it takes something big and bad to wake them up.

i'd have to say, if you as a Christian can see yourself marrying a druggie, get on your knees and pray about that. something isn't right about that and i mean that with respect to you. you don't want to be a part of the drug culture because of love. my family was ruined by drugs. specifically pot. my childhood memories have pot plants being grown in basement of the childhood home in it. you don't want to risk setting yourself up for that, or setting up the idea of children with that.
 
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Theres nothing great about smoking marijuana. You smoke it, it relaxes you and sometimes you get kinda paranoid. Nothing that bad really, honestly alcohol is a much worse drug. I've seen alcohol ruin many more lives, harm and kill many more people.

All that marijuana does to you is make you lazy, hungry and sleepy. People who do smoke it, usually do it to relax.

Strait up, alcohol (abuse) can be MUCH worse than marijuana, as are most prescription drugs when abused (especially opiates), cocaine, etc... Marijuana is a pretty mild drug. It does make you lazy and relaxed though. Most hardcore pot users simply are too lazy to do anything.

But anyhow, anything that alters your mind can't be good for you...
 
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easy...first off, its illegal.

secondly, its introducing himself into a culture that is not good. do you want to be a part of that culture, the drug culture because by you being with him, you in turn get put into that drug culture.

thirdly, it risks the problem of drug dependency. its quite true that pot isn't physically addictive, but what i find funny is, you ask any pot smoker to stop smoking pot as they tell you it isn't physically addicting, they don't. after my 3-day DUI class, and learning about that drug as well, now i'm not saying i know it all, but i'm convinced there is the mental addiction aspect to it, and every stoner proves it. they don't stop or if they do, its like every other addict stopping something...it takes something big and bad to wake them up.

i'd have to say, if you as a Christian can see yourself marrying a druggie, get on your knees and pray about that. something isn't right about that.

Thank you. :hug: I needed that.
 
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But see, what's the difference?

I used to be addicted to running long distances. A 10 mile run is the only thing I have experienced to compare to getting high. It's that feeling... It's "mind-altering". So why is running 10 miles ok, but smoking a blunt isn't?

I think anyone could see thast the long term affects of drugs, and the long term affects of excercise are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

I mean, completely ignore that fact that excercise IMPROVES your body, but in order to get that high from running, or to get that high from lifting, we have to EARN it. It takes me about an hour of repeated failuire to wear myself down with weights.

In order for me to get that high from karate, I had to fight for it until I had nothing left, and then I'd just lay there in a pool of sweat, feeling it.

Drugs are a shortcut, in the same way inappropriate contentography is a shortcut to building an actual relationship. I can't put my finger on the one final reason it's bad but the answer is in there.

So really, in alot of ways my beef with getting high artificially is the same as my beef with aolt of things, the user doesn't have what it takes to do what I did.

then again maybe I'm just an ego maniac and I want my success to come from myself.
 
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I think anyone could see thast the long term affects of drugs, and the long term affects of excercise are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

I mean, completely ignore that fact that excercise IMPROVES your body, but in order to get that high from running, or to get that high from lifting, we have to EARN it. It takes me about an hour of repeated failuire to wear myself down with weights.

In order for me to get that high from karate, I had to fight for it until I had nothing left, and then I'd just lay there in a pool of sweat, feeling it.

Drugs are a shortcut, in the same way inappropriate contentography is a shortcut to building an actual relationship. I can't put my finger on the one final reason it's bad but the answer is in there.

So really, in alot of ways my beef with getting high artificially is the same as my beef with aolt of things, the user doesn't have what it takes to do what I did.

then again maybe I'm just an ego maniac and I want my success to come from myself.

Point taken.
 
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easy...first off, its illegal.

secondly, its introducing himself into a culture that is not good. do you want to be a part of that culture, the drug culture because by you being with him, you in turn get put into that drug culture.

thirdly, it risks the problem of drug dependency. its quite true that pot isn't physically addictive, but what i find funny is, you ask any pot smoker to stop smoking pot as they tell you it isn't physically addicting, they don't. after my 3-day DUI class, and learning about that drug as well, now i'm not saying i know it all, but i'm convinced there is the mental addiction aspect to it, and every stoner proves it. they don't stop or if they do, its like every other addict stopping something...it takes something big and bad to wake them up.

i'd have to say, if you as a Christian can see yourself marrying a druggie, get on your knees and pray about that. something isn't right about that and i mean that with respect to you. you don't want to be a part of the drug culture because of love. my family was ruined by drugs. specifically pot. my childhood memories have pot plants being grown in basement of the childhood home in it. you don't want to risk setting yourself up for that, or setting up the idea of children with that.

plus, based on an epiphony I had at church today.

with each generation "getting worse" (meaning, my parents had to walk uphill in the snow blah blah blah...

if we lower our standards of acceptance, we can expect our kids to take it one step further.

We shouldn't make the right descisions for just ourselves, but also for who's coming next.
 
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I agree with whoever said run.
My high school was pot central. The people that did it back then are seriously messed up today and if i run into them around town; i can barely carry on a conversation with them.
I don't know if this is true or not, but a teacher of mine said this in one of my classes when she was ticked off at some kid that was probably high: smoking pot will store bad things in the fatty tissues of your body, especially i n the reproductive area. So if you do it on a regular basis and then have a baby later on; you put your kid at risk of having problems or birth defects. Like I said i don't know if that's true but i'm teaching a poplulation where pot use is probably very high and i've seen lots of kids that have tons of trouble with either attention disorders or trouble with processing skills.
 
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there's nothing great about it, smoking weed is for low-lifes and losers who would rather kill a few brain-cells instead of living a meaningful life.

That's not completely true.
 
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ok, here is what I have to say

I HATE marijuanna!

Growing up, both my parents were addicted to it. Now my dad still is. I've never completly known who my dad "really" is my entire life because he's always been stoned. 3 out of 4 of my brothers have been addicted to it for many years, as well my 2 sisters. Pretty much all my uncles and aunts on my dads side (his siblings) have also been addicted to it (or used it recreationally....whatever!)

This is a HUGE sore spot for me. I will not JUDGE you for using it. But I will NOT encourage it either. I do not agree with smoking it nor do I believe it is good for you or any of that nonsense people try and sell you as an excuse.


If I liked a guy or was dating a guy and I found out he smoked pot(first of all I wouldnt date him in the first place if he smoked pot) but anyways, this is one of my NUMBER ONE deal breakers.....hed be gone like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! would i give him a chance to quit? .....Not WHILE dating him, thats for sure....its not as easy to quit as that. I've seen people try. You have to really want to for yourself and believe that you dont want that a part of your lifestyle any more. So yea if they were doing that before I met them, I'm not going to stick around and try to change them, I'm GONE! I am not apologizing if that sounds harsh because its pretty black and white in my mind

I honestly dont think this guy is worth your time gottabe...if he cant find a way to escape his problems, relax.....WHATEVER without smoking pot..........he is NOT the kind of material you want to to weave together your life with...........unless you want the cloth to have huge holes in it.

p.s. Though pot is illegal where I live in Vancouver. Its soo common...there are even stores dedicated to it. Its practically impossible to actually keep under control. Every where you go you smell the stuff. It's extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemly common here.


I'm done.
 
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That's not completely true.
I agree !! I knew several really intelligent people who smoked it in highschool. It wreaked havoc on their grades eventually though. I would say the general population of potheads are low lifes, from my perspective atleast.
 
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