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blind assertion to fit the ideology held.
TAKE MARY for GOD???????????? And you don't worship her?? And putting her in God's place is what???
This is to what I am saying.. How is this bad news as well.. Someone explain this to me please? Take Mary where for God? Take Mary for God? Now someone please explain this for me as well..
I don't understand what's up with the flood of Mary threads in these sections?
As I recall, Jesus said this:
Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
It would seem to me, that no one is greater than John the Baptist... so why is Mary elevated over John the Baptist? & I didn't notice Mary's name is noted as greatest 'female'.
Hi,
I dropped out of this "slug fest" to determine who's right and who's wrong, so I have to ask if it's okay. How were you sinning against Mary? Because that's a bunch of bunk. No one can sin against a non-diety. And especially in a religious sense. So, can you explain this to me? Because I'm totally confused.
Mary is not my Mother.Those who understand Christ's stance regarding His beloved Mother, should understand we give her honor as our own Mother because Christ adopted each of us.
Damned? No.
Disrespectful of His love for her might get us in some hot water, but I dont believe damned would be the correct term.
Jesus seems to think she is.
Not in a Divine way of importance, but she is His mother.
He choose her as such.
Must be a favorable love relationship for her ~ that He desires all His creatures to emulate.
I so agree, why are there so many threads disrespectful of Our Mother?
It would seem none is greater, but then again, it is assumed that Mary as His Mother [and only as such because she fully gave over to do the Lord's will] is highly elevated.
Perhaps the already understood relationship of a Loving God and His choosen Mother needs no words.
She can only be a source of holiness [small h] if we do as she did, and use her as an example. Is she Holiness? No.
She becomes a source to which we refer to as an example.
I agree.
Sure we can. When you commit adultery you are sinning against your spouse.
You are hurting them. Thus God made it a sin to do this action.
When we commit murder, we are sinning against the person we killed. We took their life.
Thus God made it a sin to do this.
When we disqualify the importance of the Lord's Mother, we slander her and I would surmise this deeply upsets the Lord.
It doesnt matter if she is not God...she is still His Beloved Mother.
Most ppl who honor and adore their mom, would hate to hear slander and all kinds of barbs against her.
Look at it from Christ's perspective.
So, are we supposed to emulate Christ in ALL things?
Isnt He our source to follow?
He honored His Mother...and scriptures tell us He obeyed her.
Not that we are to obey her as He choose to do...but when she seeks for us to find Her Son [her main purpose to humanity] then we should listen to her.
Shouldnt we?
Look at this through Christ's eyes.
He knew from the beginning whom His Mother would be.
She was no accident. She was to be His Mother. A most precious and close relationship on earth.
[There are none closer]
This was to be an intimate love between Him and a human who would raise Him up through all His life and even after His adulthood, She stayed near Him.
He made a woman He would honor.
He made a woman He would obey.
He made a humble, loving, charitable, and beloved creature that He IS protective of.
So, those who respect, honor, love, and seek His Mother...find Him.
Where she is...He is there.
She is His creature..... She is His Mother.
The one I called Mother is now with Christ.. Jesus does not ask us to honor His mother. Only our own parents.. I cannot find Jesus by honoring Mary. I can find Jesus through His word and honoring His word..We are to Honor the Father..He has not written for us to Honor Mary.. We have communion with Him and the Father through the Holy Spirit.. This is possible only because Jesus death at the Cross.. It is His death we are to Honor and not His birth..
Mary is not my Mother.
You need to go back and re read the exchange.
No one said anyone is to take Mary for God- that is pretty obvious from all the posts made...
Mary is not my Mother.
I do not Honor Mary for her obedience. For God honors this. No where in scripture am I asked to honor Mary..I think that she was blessed.. I don't have an adopted mother. For there is no mother in Heaven.. No where is it written that there is.. I have an Abba Father because Of the death of Christ.. It is in the power of the cross that I will stand. There is no trouble that is going to come upon anyone that does not honor Mary.. This is not written in the scriptures.
so do most ppl but IAA said something but must have edited because it isn't there... but she did say that she does not honor the birth of Jesus, just his death... which is why I asked if she celebrated Christmas.
Oh man... are you afraid you are going to incriminate yourself if you just say yes?
Interesting thread.
God bless us both, Protestant and Catholic!
-Peace-
but..fer real? You really do not reflect on Mary giving birth?
