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Political Candidates Now are Promising to Pass Laws Making Voting Easier: Many Have Already Been Passed


It used to be that the Democrats always tried to make voting as easy as possible.

Now with Helene, and Milton, Trump is suddenly concerned with trying to
make voting for displaced victims of the hurricanes, as easy as possible.

All American citizens who qualify,
should be able to vote.

This is not a political party thing.
This is an American thing.

All That Matters by Skillet

We have power now just fine but we didn't have power for over 6 days and lost everything in the upstairs fridge/freezer as well as losing everything in the deep freezer downstairs.

We didn't have a generator all perishable food was a loss.

My husband is the most upset about that, but it could have been far far far worse, so we accept life as it comes.

I have enjoyed heavy metal a little as well as country music, I also like thematic orchestra as well.

Heavy metal was always do something, clean out the fridge, scrub the floor music, thematic orchestra for creative art inspiration and country music was the car music for singing while going down the road and listening to peoples stories.

I did stop art, partially because of blindness (cataracts I need to get into gear and just fix, I'm procrastinating it) but partially because I don't think we can do art anymore. I'm not sure so I stopped anyway, seems wrong and people have plenty to say against it so I'm going the safe route...

And music in general I have struggled with whether and to what extent to listen to.

Generally anything put out by Sovereign Grace Music is safe and I listen to it and there's an Anglican group I listen to as well because they are reformed also even though Anglicans are more liberal in the high church. I think the group seems or did seem more like what I think they call low church which is close.

Popular music like Skillet I generally take song by song and classifying as okay so long as the lyrics are in line with Scripture or not in opposition to it.

The above song is a layered personal experience and I think it's fine.

I'm a stricter denomination than many in Christianity though. We are more traditional so I treat music a little more carefully maybe.

That's what I like about how @Vambram shares music. He's always careful.
Dang, 6 days is a long time without power. A generator, or some solar panels and a large battery could help you in these long outages. But hey, sometimes life throws us for a loop, even if it means a loss of perishables. I will pray for you, so that your blindness does not get worse. Anglican music is good as well, Matt Redman is an Anglican as well. It is good that you treat music carefully. I do as well, and make sure music does not have dirty lyrics.

About country, my favorite country is from the late-20th century (1970s-1990s). Taylor Swift and Florida Georgia Line kinda butchered the genre around 15 years ago. It has gotten better nowadays, as newer artists are taking country back to the 1990s. Chris Stapleton is a good artist, same with Scotty McCreery. Orchestra is also good, same with the very softest form of metal (hard rock). Seventh Day Slumber is the heaviest form of rock that I like.

My 2024 Country downloads below, which make up 10% of my 220-song playlist for 2024. A lot of the bands are from the 1970s-2000s, with a few newer ones from the late-2010s and the 2020s by smaller artists. And yes, a lot of covers on this list.

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Did Jesus say "I love you" in the NT?

Yes, John 14:

21"He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him."
John 15:

9 "As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Abide in my love."
12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you."
Revelation 3:

19 "Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent."
We are not orphans deprived of the loving words from Jesus. I can hear God telling me that he loves me all the time, manifested in my spirit :)
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Cretans are ALWAYS liars

Was Paul aware of the Epimenides paradox when he wrote in Titus 1:

12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.” 13a This saying is true.
Was this a hyperbole? Paul seemed so set on its literal truth.

We should not read the "always" here as a universal quantifier. It was hyperbole. Acts 2:

10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11(both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!”
These Cretans at the Pentecost spoke in tongues. They were not liars.

Was Paul aware of the Epimenides paradox or the liar's paradox?

Probably not, Wiki:

In the Middle Ages, many forms of the liar paradox were studied under the heading of insolubilia, but these were not associated with Epimenides.
Paul was not being philosophical in Titus. He was dealing with the practical issue of appointing elders for the churches in Crete. Titus 1:

5 The reason I left you in Crete was that you might put in order what was left unfinished and appoint elders in every town, as I directed you.
The original Epimeides text is assumed to be the following:

They [Cretans] fashioned a tomb for you [Zeus], holy and high one, Cretans, always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies. But you are not dead: you live and abide forever, For in you we live and move and have our being.
According to Epimeides, Cretans lied about Zeus's death. As a poet or prophet of Zeus, Epimeides used hypobole to defend Zeus' immortality.

Paul wasn't concerned about the Liar's paradox but warned Titus that the local Cretans habitually lied about their god. Here is the context:

10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.” 13 This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth.
Paul's intent was practical, not philosophical. He warned Titus' church in Cretan: Don't be like Cretans who lied about their god.

Laser Beams in Space: They are invisible

Does a vacuum cleaner work in outer space?
Apparently not, although I don't know if it would overheat in the cold of outer space. Mind you there would be no convection to absorb heat in the short term.

Either way the astonauts need houswives by the look of things....

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Beyond Incredible by Skillet

Now that's a testimony now isn't it? Praise God for the deliverance of His people!
Amen to this. This is my testimony, and I have God to thank. He can free us of our sinful desires, or at least restrain us from acting out our sins.
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Two Americans Win the Nobel Prize in Medicine

Fake controversy: Why researcher Rosalind Lee, the wife of the Nobel Prize winner in Medicine, didn’t receive the award as well

Why researcher Rosalind Lee, the wife of the Nobel Prize winner in Medicine, didn’t receive the award as well
The scientist was the first author of the pioneering ‘Cell’ study on microRNA, but it is typically the last author who is recognized as the leader of the research group
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How can we know Christianity is the 'right' religion? Robert Jeffress answers

There were waves of fulfillments.
The most recent is the Israel Offensive which occurred 42 months after the start of the tribulation. (April 2020)
The two videos I posted cover the bulk of it.

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God saved Noah the EIGHTH

KJ, 2P 2:


Why was Noah called the 8th? the eighth what?

Let see the Greek:


eighth
ὄγδοον (ogdoon)
Adjective - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3590: The eighth, one of eight, with seven others. From oktos; the eighth.

Noah
Νῶε (Nōe)
Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3575: (Hebrew) Noah. Of Hebrew origin; Noe, a patriarch.

This Greek construction was an example of accusative of apposition. It identified Noah as the eighth person. This suggested that there were 7 others.

Who were the 7 others?

English Standard Version:


They were the other family members. On Biblehub, 20 versions used 'seven others' while 11 used 'eight' or 'eighth'.

Some interpreted Noah as the eighth in a line of righteous preachers. This interpretation lacks clear biblical support for seven predecessors. If Peter had meant that, he probably would have written ἀλλὰ Νῶε ὄγδοον κήρυκα δικαιοσύνης ἐφύλαξεν.

Why was Noah called the 8th?

It was a shorthand notation to say that God saved Noah's family of eight persons.
I have looked at several translations of the bible in English, and many of them say something such as "one of eight". For instance, the NKJV has:

“and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, [one of] eight [people], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;” (2Pe 2:5 NKJV)
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Progressive journalist unleashes on liberal intolerance

My son likes the Young Turks. They are very far left, frequently critical of liberals for not going far enough.
Kasparian has a show on their you tube channel.
My son said Jenks, their leader, says Harris is struggling in the swing state polls because she appeared with Liz Cheney. Israel's amping up their war is alienating Muslims in Michigan and elsewhere.
While they realize Trump is a disastrous alternative, he thinks they could stay home or vote third party.
I don't understand it. When your country is in peril, you can't wimp out. Decisive action is needed.
But the short answer is Kasparian is behaving like a typical young turk.
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Is Committing Adultery Your Practice?

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.” (Matthew 5:27-30 ESV)

I had just finished rewatching a two year old video talk that the Lord is having me repost today when immediately a video came up of a preacher standing behind a pulpit talking about how he had just recently gotten word about another church pastor, that this pastor had committed adultery against his wife, and the church community was shaken over the report of it. And then he talked about how today, if you sin, and you get caught, it gets plastered all over social media, if you are someone important, anyway.

And I had just finished writing a devotion on the subject of the persecution of the righteous, based off Matthew 5:10-12, and so I was reading on down in Matthew 5 looking for the subject matter that the Lord wanted me to write on next, and he had me stop at this subject of adultery. It is a subject with which I am very familiar. And it fits with the other two devotions for today (there are usually 3 a day). And it seems as though the Lord has been having me write about sexual misconduct and abuse a lot lately.

Well, the reality of it all is that spousal abuse and adultery go hand-in-hand. If one or the other of them is committing adultery against the other, the adulterers are also likely to be abusive in additional ways, such as verbally, mentally (playing mind games, trickery, gaslighting), emotionally, and perhaps spiritually and physically, too. And this can definitely include Christian persecution if one spouse is living for the Lord and if the other is still walking in deliberate and habitual sin, especially in adultery.

Now there are many ways in which a person can commit adultery, and they are not all involving physical contact with another human being. Jesus said that if we look at another lustfully (with lustful intent) that we have already committed adultery with that person in our hearts, and against our spouses (if we are married to someone else). And so he gave some very strong counsel on what may be necessary to cease from committing adultery, although I believe this is to be taken more figuratively than literally.

But here is where the problem lies, I believe. Well first of all the Scriptures teach that out of the heart come “evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.” And “The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.” So, if you have hatred, bitterness, anger, resentment, pride, lust, selfishness, and unforgiveness stored in your hearts, that’s what will come out.

[Luke 6:45; Matthew 15:17-20]

So, there has to first be genuine faith in Jesus Christ by which we die with Christ to sin and we are raised with him to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to God and to his righteousness. There has to be death to self and to sin and living for God in walks of holiness and righteousness, in obedience to his commands, as led by the Spirit of God, in the power of God, by the grace of God. There has to be an inner cleansing and renewal of the heart so we can now live for God.

Daily we must surrender our lives to the Lord and take up our cross and follow him in obedience. Our Christian walk has to involve daily dying to sin, self-denial, and walks of obedience to our Lord, resisting the devil, and drawing near to our Lord in full assurance of faith. If we play with temptation, we will eventually give in, and then we will want more of the same. Then the cycle begins, and we have returned to our vomit. So we must guard our hearts and minds daily and put on the armor of God.

Now, here is also where the problem lies. The “church” of today, overall (not every congregation, not every individual), in America, has embraced a cheapened form of the gospel which was taught by Jesus and by his NT apostles. This cheap grace gospel is taught by removing Scriptures from their context and making them say what they do not say if taught in their appropriate context. So, by cherry-picking certain Scriptures (taken out of context), they have a fairly new and revised version of the gospel which doesn’t require death to sin and obeying God.

So many pastors today are teaching this altered gospel message whereby they tell people they can just “pray a prayer to receive Christ,” or make a profession of Christ as Lord and Savior, and now all their sins are forgiven (past, present, and future), and heaven is guaranteed them when they die, and it cannot be taken away from them, but regardless of how they live. Even if they teach repentance and obedience (not all do), many teach them more as though recommended but not as required for salvation.

So, many professers of faith in the Lord Jesus are getting this message that they can believe in Jesus, have all their sins forgiven, and be on their way to heaven, but that how they live will not impact where they spend eternity. And then we have the internet, which has its good points (I am sharing the gospel on the internet), and then personal computers, and now smartphones (pocket computers). And a whole world of evil is now available to anyone with the press of a finger on a screen or a keyboard, and adultery is now at pandemic levels!!

So, the only way that we are going to be able to live morally pure and upright lives in this day and age is if we take God and his word absolutely to heart and we don’t dance around the verses that we don’t want to hear. We have to rid our lives and minds and hearts of all the junk that is stored up inside them which is producing evil and wicked behaviors. And then our lives must be surrendered to our Lord and committed to do his will, and we must put on the armor of God and fight the devil with Spiritual weapons.

But if you play with sin, and you choose not to take the necessary steps to insure moral purity in your lives, you won’t make it. You have to make the necessary cuts. You have to “set your face like flint” (Isaiah 50:7), and stand your ground, and remove from your lives all obstacles to your walks of faith and obedience to the Lord. You have to not take into your minds the thinking and philosophies and values of a fallen world, even within the gatherings of “the church,” but you must stand alone sometimes.

For, if you don’t, and if you play with sin, you will get burned. And if you continue living in deliberate and habitual sin, and not in walks of obedience to our Lord and in righteous living, then please know that the Scriptures teach that you will not inherit eternal life with God, regardless of what confessions of Christ you have made in your life. So, please read the Scriptures for yourself. Read them in context. And then do what we are taught to do by the Lord and by his NT apostles, and obey God always!

[Matt 7:21-23; Lu 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14; Rom 12:1-2; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Co 10:1-22; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; Gal 5:16-24; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-32; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:1-17; Titus 2:11-14; 1 Jn 1:5-10; 1 Jn 2:3-6,15-17; 1 Jn 3:4-10; 1 Pet 2:24; Heb 3:1-19; Heb 4:1-13; Heb 10:23-31; Heb 12:1-2]

Oh, to be like Thee! Oh, to be like Thee,
Blessèd Redeemer, pure as Thou art;
Come in Thy sweetness, come in Thy fullness;
Stamp Thine own image deep on my heart.

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Go and make disciples of all NATIONS

New International Version, Matthew 28:


Good News Translation:


Literal Emphasis Translation:


The Greek word G1484 ἔθνος (ethnos) appears 163 times.

At Biblehub, 47 versions out of 49 translate it as "nations". None translates it as "Gentiles".

Elsewhere in Matthew 10:


It is the same Greek word. Now NIV translated it as "Gentiles". It is a bad practice to blindly translate ἔθνος as "Gentile" everywhere because ἔθνος has a range of meanings, NASB Translation:
Be fruitful and multiply.
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Blessed are the Persecuted of God

“Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.” (Matthew 5:10-12 ESV)

People, in general, get persecuted for many different things, but mainly, I believe, because they are different from others around them. Many people in this world are prejudice against those who are not like them. It can be because their color of skin is different from theirs, or they speak a foreign language, or because they are of a particular religion. But it can also be because they are tall or short, plump or skinny, brainy or not so brainy, rich or poor, advanced in education, or having not much formal education, etc.

Television, movies, videos, cartoons, comedy shows, and all sorts of other ways of communicating, one with another, have been known to promote prejudice and treating others badly who are different from us, even mocking them or doing evil against them or playing tricks on them or whatever. But it is not funny to the ones being picked on, to the ones being bullied, to the ones being laughed at and made fun of. It is very hurtful, even if they do not show that they feel hurt by it. And some of this ends in someone dying.

Now, if you are a follower of Jesus Christ, you should have been warned in advance that being a genuine follower of Christ will mean that you will be hated and persecuted like Jesus was. But in America, where about ¾ of the population professes Christianity as their religion of choice, you will not generally be hated and persecuted just because you profess faith in Jesus Christ. You will be hated and persecuted and rejected, though, if you are truly following Jesus in obedience to his word, in truth and in practice.

You will not be hated and persecuted, though, just for being a “good deed doer,” or for being “nice” to people, or for helping people in need, etc. You won’t even be rejected by most if you quote Bible verses (select ones) or if you make general references to faith in Jesus Christ and to your church gatherings. But if you teach the Scriptures in context, and you teach the fulness of what Jesus and the NT apostles taught (in biblical doctrine), and if you call people to repentance and to obedience to God, then watch out!

Especially if you are one who is calling out and refuting the lies which are being taught as truth, and if you are exposing the fruitless deeds of darkness for what they are, and if you are leading people to the truth of what God’s word teaches regarding the gospel of our salvation and what it really teaches, you will not be well liked, and you may be hated, rejected, persecuted, cast aside, and even falsely accused of what you did not do. And your persecutors may be others who profess faith in Jesus Christ.

Now, I have faced this kind of treatment quite a bit over the course of my lifetime. But there was this one time when my husband and I were taking a “discipleship” class, of sorts, when I began to see the lies and trickery and manipulations of truth going on within the course we were being taught. At the same time my husband was following the teachings of a particular famous author, and I could see the lies in what the author was teaching, too, and so I was writing about these lies being taught as truth, on the internet.

One of the couples in our group then came to our house, and the man “reamed me out” because I was questioning both the teaching of that certain book author and because I was questioning the teaching in our “discipleship” book, and because I was posting my findings on the internet. He yelled and screamed at me in my own living room, and he told me that I was wrong because I was in the minority. He told me that the majority is right, and so I needed to be like the majority, instead. But is that biblical? No!

We don’t get persecuted for righteousness’ sake because we are in the majority, but because we are in the minority, because we are different, because we go against the flow, and we examine what is being taught against what the Scriptures teach, and we expose the lies for what they are, and we expound the truth in hopes that some people will stop believing the lies and that they will now begin believing in and following the truth. For their location in eternity depends on them believing and living the truth.

For that very reason Jesus Christ was hated and persecuted and put to death. And for that very reason the prophets of the Old Testament, and the New Testament apostles, and followers of Jesus Christ were hated and persecuted and falsely accused of wrongdoing. And they were falsely arrested and imprisoned for crimes they did not commit. And many of them were martyred for their walks of faith in Jesus Christ because they obeyed the Lord Jesus and they did what he said they must do as his followers.

But we are not to be disheartened by such treatment as this, as painful as it can be. For to this we have been called. So we are blessed when we are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, and we are blessed of God when others revile us, and persecute us, and utter all kinds of evil against us falsely on account of our Lord and his gospel message. And, instead of us letting it get us down, we are to rejoice and be glad, for they persecuted the prophets in the same way. We will be rewarded. Ours is the kingdom of heaven.

[Matthew 5:10-12; Matthew 10:16-39; Matthew 24:9-14; Luke 6:22-23; Luke 21:12-17; John 15:18-21; Jn 17:14; Rom 5:3-5; Phil 3:7-11; 1 Pet 1:6-7; 1 Pet 4:12-17; 2 Tim 3:12; 1 Thess 3:1-5; Jas 1:2-4; 2 Co 1:3-11; Heb 12:3-12; 1 Jn 3:13; Revelation 6:9-11; Revelation 7:9-17; Revelation 11:1-3; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 13:1-18; Revelation 14:1-13]

My Jesus, My Savior

Michael W. Smith

My Jesus, My Saviour,
Lord, there is none like you,
All of my days, I want to praise
The wonders of Your mighty love.

My comfort, my shelter,
Tower of refuge and strength
Let every breath, all that I am
Never cease to worship You.

Shout to the Lord, all the earth let us sing,
Power and majesty, praise to the King!
Mountains bow down and the seas will roar,
At the sound of your name!
I sing for joy at the work of your hands,
Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
Nothing compares to the promise I have in You.

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Resistance official lyric video by Skillet

@Vambram , this one is pretty good. There is a little hint of vocal processing in this one which is a little off, but the lyrics are Biblical, and remind me of Romans 12:2, where we must stand against the world. It also connects with spiritual warfare again. I'm telling you guys, this entire decade is rife with signs of the spiritual battle we have in this world. A lot of violence is happening overseas, persecution of Christians, and violent protests in Europe and the US, as well as a general lack of humility. Pray for our world, and our leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-4).

Romans 12:2 (NIV): "Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will."

Breaking the Mold Devotional (fighting worldly influences):
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Abortion pills and medical negligence killed woman, not pro-life laws, doctor says

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Around Dallas, the church scandals seem to have no end

It's all too common. And sickening.

Since there aren't many accountability structures for Protestants, and many of them are functionally independent congregations anyhow, the data mostly isn't there for a comparison. BUT insurance payout data can provide a solid clue that there is as much or more abuse happening in Protestant circles. Probably about the same magnitude. It's just that it seldom makes the news and may never actually be made public for some small Protestant church. What newsroom cares if First Whatever tiny congregation has an abusive pastor. Unless it's a mega-church the newsroom doesn't particularly care. But Catholics have been a pile-on target for a few decades now. Catholics got creamed on this because dioceses keep records, and with a subpoena those records can be used at trials. The other reason Catholics got creamed was that dioceses, being big entities, got sued big. And of course the other reason Catholics got creamed is the tendency to hide things, a bad but natural tendency, that were already in diocesan records. You can't get much money from a tiny congregation of 50 people. You can laugh all the way to the bank suing a diocese of 100,000 people or more.

What we need more of is coming clean about this, all of it, whether it's abuse against boys or girls or vulnerable adults or just the pastor fooling around with someone he's not married to. It's good that Catholics went through this debacle. There will be some more filth (pope Benedict's term) still in the pipeline. It's good that the evangelicals are going through it. The hope is that we will come through cleansed and more attuned to our mission of saving souls. It may seem to have no end but it will taper off. We need to discover who the perps are and assist the victims.
A lot of Protestants who are independent don’t keeping records, so it goes undocumented and unreported in some cases.

Well said and well written.
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Georgia abortion law not responsible for deaths of Amber Thurman and Candi Miller, pro-life doctors say

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Harris mum on her past pledge for "Dreamers"

Link demonstrating this is more than an opinion - gots you any proof?

Serveral links are referenced:
The United States family separation policy under the Trump administration was presented to the public as a "zero tolerance" approach intended to deter illegal immigration and to encourage tougher legislation.[1] In some cases, families following the legal procedure to apply for asylum at official border crossings were also separated. It was officially adopted across the entire US–Mexico border from April 2018 until June 2018.[2] Under the policy, federal authorities separated children and infants from parents or guardians with whom they had entered the US.[3][4][5] The adults were prosecuted and held in federal jails or deported, and the children were placed under the supervision of the US Department of Health and Human Services.[3] More than 5,500 children, including infants, were removed and up to 2,000 still have not been reunited as of March 2024.[6][7][8][9][10]
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Pastor Keion Henderson criticized for saying congregants won’t be blessed by giving to poor

Pastor Keion Henderson, lead pastor of The Lighthouse Church in Houston, Texas, speaks during a sermon on Nov. 5, 2023.
Pastor Keion Henderson, lead pastor of The Lighthouse Church in Houston, Texas, speaks during a sermon on Nov. 5, 2023. | YouTube/Keion Henderson TV

Megachurch Pastor Keion Henderson has drawn the criticism of Bible-believing pastors and Christians in recent days over a resurfaced clip from one of his 2023 sermons in which he is seen telling congregants that they won't get "wealth" or blessing from God by giving to the poor but only when they tithe to church.

In the controversial clip taken from a Nov. 5, 2023, sermon entitled "It's All About The Benjamins," the founder and CEO of The Lighthouse Church & Ministries in Houston, Texas, said he finds it problematic that every time someone is in need, the church likes to donate money to them.

"Let me tell you something: the poor will be with you always, and there is no blessing connected to blessing the poor other than getting back what you gave to them, but no multiplication," Henderson said.

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Pray that Hurricane Milton Immediately becomes a mere breeze

Yes, praying that this hurricane peters out before it does any serious damge (Mark 4:39). Remember conservative voters reading this: in addition to bodily damage, serious storm damage can potentially prevent voters from registering and/or voting!! So please pray and believe!! (Matthew 9:29; Mark 4:40).
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