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Michie · Jul 30, 2025

The word “Psalm” comes from the Greek word for a “song” (psalmos), which is itself a translation of the Hebrew word for a song or melody. In Jewish tradition, however, the book of Psalms is known simply as the “Praises.” Here we’ll explore ten different facets of this extraordinary collection of hymns and prayers.

1) The Psalms are split into five books. In their book A Catholic Introduction to the Bible: The Old Testament, Scripture scholars John Bergsma and Brant Pitre offer the following breakdown:

Book 1: Introduction and Laments of David (Ps 1-41)
Book 2: The Rise of the Davidic Kingdom (Ps 42-72)
Book 3: Fall of the Davidic Kingdom (Ps 73-89)
Book 4: Reflections on the Fall of the Kingdom and Exile(Ps 90-106)
Book 5: Rejoicing and Restoration of the Temple (Ps 107-150)

2) The Psalms have multiple authors. While King David wrote the largest number of psalms, many were written by other authors such as King Solomon, a figure named Asaph, or a group known as the Sons of Korah. Even Moses is credited with having written one of the Psalms (Psalm 90).

3) The Psalms frequently use parallelisms. The Psalms are works of Hebrew poetry, but they don’t rhyme in the way that English poetry does. The metrical patterns in the Psalms are also unclear to modern scholars. But what we do find repeatedly in the Psalms is the literary technique of parallelism. Very frequently the Psalms are organized so that two or more verses are supposed to be read either as complements or as contrasts.

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The word “Psalm” comes from the Greek word for a “song” (psalmos), which is itself a translation of the Hebrew word for a song or melody. In Jewish tradition, however, the book of Psalms is known simply as the “Praises.” Here we’ll explore ten different facets of this extraordinary collection of...

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chevyontheriver · Jul 30, 2025

Michie said:
On July 26, 2025, a meeting took place at the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican between Metropolitan Antony of Volokolamsk, Chairman of the Moscow Patriarchate’s Department for External Church Relations, and Pope Leo XIV.

During the meeting, Metropolitan Antony conveyed greetings from His Holiness Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Rus’ and congratulations on Pope Leo XIV’s election as the head of the Roman Catholic Church.

Pope Leo XIV expressed gratitude to Patriarch Kirill for his good wishes and emphasized the importance of strengthening relations with the Russian Orthodox Church.

The discussion touched on numerous issues, including the state of Orthodox-Catholic dialogue and ongoing global conflicts, particularly in Ukraine and the Middle East.

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On July 26, 2025, a meeting took place at the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican between Metropolitan Antony of Volokolamsk, Chairman of the Moscow Patriarchate’s Department for External Church Relations, and Pope Leo XIV. During the meeting, Metropolitan Antony conveyed greetings from His Holiness...

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Is this more than a formality? Hoping.

Michie · Jul 30, 2025

chevyontheriver said:
Pope Francis. He all but officially canonized Martin Luther in 2017 for the 500th anniversary 'celebration' of the nailing of Luther's 95 theses to the door of the Wittenburg church.

Ah! I recall that now. That was very confusing to many. He was very difficult to figure out.

johnnypapa · Jul 30, 2025

The Virgin Mary of Glory, A 20th-Century Japanese Madonna and Child

Sacred liturgy and liturgical arts. Liturgical history and theology. The movements for the Usus Antiquior and Reform of the Reform.

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johnnypapa · Jul 30, 2025

Sermons For Everyday Living: Ss Peter Chrysologus, Abdon & Sennen - 7/30/25

July 30th, 2025: Chrysologus's Golden Words for Our Dark Age; Ss Abdon & Sennen - Fellowship of the Catholic Faith; St Simon of Lypnica; God Lives in the Church; Life Requires Sacrifice; St Peter Chrysologus

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pastorwaris · Jul 30, 2025

Michie said:
A: First of all, it’s not known whether Job was a literal historical figure. Many Scripture scholars believe that the Book of Job in the Old Testament is essentially a sort of fable — that is, it was not necessarily recording events that actually occurred, but rather telling us a story to illustrate some deeper truth.

This would make the book of Job similar to the parables that Jesus was so fond of telling later on in the New Testament (e.g., we don’t need to believe that the Good Samaritan or the Prodigal Son were real people in order to understand and appreciate the point Jesus was trying to make).

On that literary level, the entire Book of Job is a consideration of the meaning of suffering in the life of the faithful, and in that sense it’s actually asking the same question you are!

For those unfamiliar with the story of Job, his namesake book opens by introducing Job as an “upright man” who “feared God and avoided evil” (Job 1:1). Job was also very prosperous: “Seven sons and three daughters were born to him; and he had seven thousand sheep, three thousand camels, five hundred yoke of oxen, five hundred she-donkeys, and a very large household, so that he was greater than anyone in the East” (Job 1:2-3).

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Why would God allow Satan to torture Job?

The Book of Job doesn't give us easy answers, but it does give us glimpses of the purpose of suffering and the nature of our loving God.

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Dear beloved in Christ,

Thank you for such a thoughtful and reflective comment. I appreciate the care you've taken in laying out your thoughts it shows a genuine desire to understand the Word of God more deeply, especially on such a profound question: “Why would God allow Satan to torture Job?”

Now, regarding the historicity of Job yes, some scholars do interpret the Book of Job as poetic or allegorical literature, much like a parable. However, it’s important to note that the Bible itself refers to Job as a real person, not merely a character in a story. For example, in Ezekiel 14:14, the Lord speaks of “Noah, Daniel, and Job” as righteous men placing Job in the company of clearly historical figures. Also, James 5:11 in the New Testament says, “You have heard of the perseverance of Job and seen the end intended by the Lord that the Lord is very compassionate and merciful.” This suggests Job’s experience was not just symbolic but also instructive and real.

That being said, I also agree with you in this: whether or not Job is taken literally, the spiritual truth of the book remains powerful and undeniable. Just as Jesus' parables while not historical narratives revealed deep divine wisdom, the story of Job carries enduring truths about faith, suffering, and God's sovereignty.

Your insight is right on point: the Book of Job does not offer an "easy" answer to suffering, but rather invites us into a sacred mystery. Job’s trials pull back the curtain and let us glimpse the heavenly courtroom, where God is not absent but actively engaged. And even though Job doesn’t get a neat explanation for his suffering, he encounters the living God and that, more than any answer, becomes his restoration.

It’s also crucial to remember that Job was not punished. He was tested, and ultimately honored. Satan sought to destroy him, but God set boundaries, proving that even in suffering, God remains sovereign. The lesson isn’t about why bad things happen, but about how faith can remain unshaken even when we don’t understand the “why.”

So, whether we view Job as a literal man or a literary symbol, the message is the same: God is just, God is loving, and our suffering is never wasted when we trust Him. And the ending of the book reminds us that restoration and double blessings await those who endure with faith (Job 42:10).

Thank you again for sparking such a meaningful discussion. May the Holy Spirit continue to guide us into all truth and comfort all who suffer, just as He did with Job.

In Christ’s grace and peace,
Pastor Waris Arif

Shane R · Jul 30, 2025

There's a Celtic rule conference at St. Patrick's Anglican Church in Parkersburg, WV this weekend. I think the church also hosts some sort of Celtic rule monastic community, probably all third order.

linux.poet · Jul 30, 2025

Dear Lord,
I pray for Your provision for Dorothieya. You own the cattle on a thousand hills, so I pray that you would bring some to her doorstep. Help her to find productive employment and a kindly Christian landlord who can rent a room to her. Help her to find her way back to college.

I pray for healing for Dorothieya's body and mind, that she may be able to keep a job. Help her to work as unto You, to bring You glory and honor.
In Christ's Name,
Amen

(Maybe try applying for fafsa anyway and see what government financial aid will give you. I found a reenrollment scholarship with my college that allowed me to finish college and do the last two classes to get over the college finish line. I hope that is there for you. )

Christsfreeservant · Jul 30, 2025

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.” (Matthew 5:27-30 NASB1995)

Late last night the Lord began preparing me for this passage today. He was giving me a picture in my mind of someone who is egocentric, full of pride, morally unclean, a liar, a deceiver, malicious, a manipulator, not trustworthy, and someone who fakes their Christianity to appear good when they are really evil of heart and practice. They know the truth of the gospel, and they can even recite the gospel truth to others. But in their pride they are not submitting to the gospel but they are continuing in their sexual immorality.

Rather than submitting to God, humbling themselves, turning from their sins, and walking in obedience to the Lord, they hold on to their pride and to their sin. And they continue to drift, to descend, to go under, and to worsen. The feeling was also that they continued on this course because they were feeling sorry for themselves, moping, perhaps blaming others for their predicament, rather than to take responsibility for their own actions. This is someone who is resisting God and a heart transformation of the Spirit.

Then I had this image of someone scattering the seed of the gospel of Christ to this person, but they kept resisting and resisting the witness for Christ who was spreading the message of the gospel which would set them free if only they would be humble, repent, and obey God and die to their old lives of living in sin and for self. But truly it was God who kept giving the witness the message of the gospel, with the intent to bring down the adulterous from their prideful position so that they would die to sin and obey God.

And all this was going through my mind even before I knew what passage of Scripture the Lord would lead me to write on this morning. And then I read this passage of Scripture, and it fit with what I was seeing in my mind. For adultery is not just having sexual intercourse with someone not your spouse. Adultery is looking with lust for another. And this reminds me of pornography addiction, which a high number of people are being controlled by today, even a high number of people who profess faith in Jesus Christ, even pastors.

But the only way anyone is going to be free from addiction to sexual immorality is if they are willing to humble themselves, to forsake their pride, and to surrender their lives to God to do his will. And this may mean giving up some things which habitually serve as tempters to draw them right back into sin. For there is a need to throw off all that leads you to sin, as well as the sin itself, if you are serious with God about being totally free from all addiction to sin. But sadly, not everyone will yield to God. And God will have to be good to his promise, and he will send them to hell. Breaks my heart!

So, don’t be someone who plays with sin assuming that because you made a confession of faith in Jesus Christ that you can keep on in your sin and that God will give you a free pass to heaven. The Scriptures make it very clear that if sin is our practice, and not obedience to God, regardless of what we profess with our lips, we will not inherit eternal life with God. But many people are gambling that that is not the truth, and that the truth is that they will still go to heaven because they “prayed the prayer to receive Christ.” So, please don’t gamble with your destiny. God will keep his word!

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

My Sheep

Based off John 10:1-30 NIV
An Original Work / June 24, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

My sheep hear me. They know me.
They listen to my voice and obey.
I call them and lead them.
They know my voice, so they follow me.
They will never follow strangers.
They will run away from them.
The voice of a stranger they know not;
They do not follow him.

So, I tell you the truth that
I am the gate, so you enter in.
Whoever does enter
Will find forgiveness and will be saved.
Nonetheless whoever enters
Not by the gate; other way,
He is the thief and a robber.
Listen not, the sheep to him.

Oh, I am the Good Shepherd,
Who laid his own life down for the sheep.
I know them. They know me.
They will live with me eternally.
The thief only comes to steal and
Kill and to destroy the church.
I have come to give you life that
You may have it to the full…

They know my voice, so they follow me.

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linux.poet · Jul 30, 2025

Gracious heavenly Father and Lord Jesus,
I pray for healing for Carmen's bladder and relief from pain. Help her to get some cranberry juice and get to a doctor if needed. Lead and guide her as to what to do.
In Christ's Name,
Amen

Grafted In · Jul 29, 2025

Final episode of the Goren- Eams L&O, C.I.

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ViaCrucis · Jul 29, 2025

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Jesus promised He would send the Holy Spirit after He ascended, and so about a week after He ascended, He kept His promise and the Holy Spirit was poured out upon all those gathered in the upper room. When this happened, they began to speak different languages. This happened during the Jewish Feast of Shavu'ot, also called Pentecost. Shavu'ot was one of the three major festival on the Jewish calendar, where God commanded all Jewish males to come to the Tabernacle (later, the Temple in Jerusalem) to offer sacrifices. Because of this, Jerusalem was full of Jewish pilgrims from many different places, who all spoke different languages. They took notice of the twenty or so people who started speaking, because they were speaking the languages of these different Jewish pilgrims. Some among the pilgrims were astonished, "Are these not Galileans, and yet they are speaking in our languages?" but others scoffed and said, "Pfft, these guys are drunk as heck".

This is when St. Peter, full of the Holy Spirit, stood up and addressed the crowd that was gathering. He then gave a lengthy sermon, and quoted the Prophet Joel. Joel had prophesied that in the last days God would pour out His Spirit on all flesh, "your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams", then Peter says that Joel's prophecy was being fulfilled right then and there. This was the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy, on Pentecost two thousand years ago, when God poured out the Holy Spirit upon His Church. Peter then went on to preach that Jesus was the long awaited Messiah, and though Jesus was put to death by the plotting of wicked men, God raised Him up, vindicating Him, and that He is truly Lord Messiah, and now is the time to repent, believe the good news of God's victory through the Messiah, and to come and be part of what God is doing through Jesus by receiving baptism and repenting.

When the crowd heard these words, they believed and they received baptism and became Christians, about three thousand in total. And that is the day as Christians we usually remember as the "birthday" of the Church. When God fulfilled His promise to send the Holy Spirit, and the Apostles were given the power to bear witness to Christ beginning in Jerusalem, throughout the cities of Judea and Samaria, and then further to the various nations of the world. Soon the Apostles would go from preaching in Jerusalem and Judea, and would be preaching the Gospel in places like Antioch, Ephesus, Athens, and even the heart of the Roman Empire, the city of Rome itself. This is the day when God inaugurated His Church to the Gospel mission which she has been living for the last two thousand years, which we are still living today--by the power of the Holy Spirit who was poured out two thousand years ago on Pentecost.

-CryptoLutheran

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Chrystal-J · Jul 29, 2025

They say they are "born this way", but as Christians we are called to be "born again". Dying to self and accepting our cross.

Chrystal-J · Jul 29, 2025

7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
(Jude 7)

Chrystal-J · Jul 29, 2025

LizaMarie said:
This is tough. What I have done is unfollow certain people on FB(usually friends or family members) without unfriending them.
This way I can't see their posts.
When you unfollow someone, their posts will no longer show up in your feed, but they are still on your friends list, and they can still see your posts(unless they unfollow you) If you want to see their posts you have to go to their profile directly.
This is what I have done in the case of a family member whose posts were offensive to me, but I didn't want to unfriend them.

Thanks for the information!

Chrystal-J · Jul 29, 2025

Michie said:
You think? I mean, how obvious can you get? I’d like to hear @Chrystal-J ‘s thoughts on this. She lives in the area.

I heard that the bishop was very against the traditional Latin mass and forbade it's practice in the diocese. But, that's all I've heard at that level in the Church. I mainly just go to Mass and do the rosary, read the bible and pray at home.

Christsfreeservant · Jul 29, 2025

“Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God. Whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father.” (Colossians 3:16-17 NASB1995)

We who believe in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives were not put here on the earth to live for ourselves, to go our own way, to chart our own course, and to choose our own path. And we are not saved from our sins and promised eternal life with God so that we may go on living in sin and not in walks of obedience to our Lord, living to please the flesh and not God. God did not draw us to himself so we would continue to live for self and not for God. But he called us to holy living and to walks of obedience to God.

For God created us for a purpose, and that purpose is that we might honor God with our lives, that we might follow our Lord in obedience to his commands, and that we might accept his commission (calling) for our individual lives to go where he sends us, and to do and to say what he commands. But the only way we will know the will of God is if we are students of the Scriptures, and if our ears and hearts are in tune to hearing the Spirit of God speak truth to us in our hearts, willing to obey him.

But being students of the Scriptures is not to be just an intellectual exercise, to just gain knowledge. There are people who know the Scriptures, who have even memorized much of the Scriptures, and who have even taught, or are still teaching the Scriptures. But it is all head knowledge. For it is not being applied to their lives. They know how to speak it, but they don’t live it. They can preach it to others, but they don’t put it into practice in their own lives. They know how to sound spiritual, but they are still walking in sin.

So if we are those who are letting the word of Christ richly dwell within us, then we are those who are taking God’s words to heart, and who are putting the Word into practice in our daily lives, by the Spirit. And this is not to say that we will do it perfectly, but that we are walking the walk and not just talking it, and sin is not our practice, but obedience to God is our practice. And so we are those who are teaching and admonishing one another with all wisdom so that we might all live for the Lord, doing his will, for his glory.

And when this speaks of us teaching and admonishing one another with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, this is not about us all attending a “worship service” where we all sing in unison the songs preselected for us to sing, usually by one person, and usually more about praising God, which is good, but which is not directed at ministering to one another, but which so many of the old hymns actually do. This is about each of us having a song or a poem to share with the rest which will help one another to walk with Jesus.

So, when this says that whatever we do, in word or in deed, we are to do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, the “whatever” does not include sinning against God, and disobeying his commands, and ignoring his calling upon our lives so that we can live however we want. The “whatever” needs to be according to the will and purpose of God for our lives, according to his calling upon our lives, and in agreement with the teachings of the Scriptures on how we are to live lives which are pleasing to God, not to please the flesh.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

Your Servant Witness

An Original Work / March 13, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Humbly I bow, Lord, before You,
Bringing my requests to You.
May I listen; hear You speaking.
May I follow You in truth.
Gently lead me in Your service.
Guide my steps and strengthen me.
Fill me with Your love and mercy.
May I live for Thee!

Let me be Your servant witness,
Telling others of Your grace.
May I always share the gospel
With those I meet face to face.
May I show the love of Jesus,
Caring for the needs of men;
Be Your servant witness always
For my Lord, Amen!

My desire to be like Jesus,
Living for Him ev’ry day.
May I obey all His teachings
Given me, so I’ll not stray.
Love You, Jesus, Lord, my master.
You are the King of my heart;
Follow You where’er You lead me;
Not from You depart!

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Christsfreeservant · Jul 29, 2025

“If Your law had not been my delight,

Then I would have perished in my affliction.

I will never forget Your precepts,

For by them You have revived me.

I am Yours, save me;

For I have sought Your precepts.” (Psalm 119:92-94 NASB1995)

We who believe in Jesus Christ are under the New Covenant God has with his people of faith (Jew and Gentile by faith in Jesus Christ), so we are not under the Old Covenant liturgical, ceremonial, sacrificial, purification, circumcision, dietary and Sabbath laws of the Old Covenant. But the New Covenant is not lawless. We still have commands of God which we are required to obey as followers of Jesus Christ, which are mostly God’s moral laws. So, by faith we must die to sin and walk in obedience to our Lord.

But this is not something to be seen as a drudgery or as something to be avoided or dismissed just because we are now living under grace and not under the Old Covenant Law. Obedience to our Lord and to his commands should be our delight, i.e. something we want to do because we love God, because we want to serve him with our lives, and because we know that obeying our Lord is the right way and the good way and the best way.

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

Obedience to our Lord is of upmost importance under the New Covenant, not just under the Old Covenant. And the subject of obedience is stressed often throughout the New Testament writings. For obedience is a sign that our faith in Jesus Christ is biblical faith which saves. It is also an indication that we are, indeed, in an intimate relationship with God, by faith in Jesus Christ. And it says to God that we love him. And it means that we know him.

Many people today who profess faith in Jesus Christ are not teaching the importance of obedience to God. Many are teaching that we do not have to obey God, by faith in Jesus, and that we do not have to repent of (turn away from) our sins. For they are teaching that a verbal confession of Christ as Lord is enough to save them from their sins and to promise them heaven when they die, but regardless of how they live. If some do teach repentance and obedience, it is often taught more as a suggestion, not as a command.

But the commands of God are for our good. They encourage us to walk in the ways of the Lord, and to forsake our lives of living in sin. And this brings us much peace and joy and victory because we are no longer living under slavery to sin but as servants of the Lord and of his righteousness! We now belong to Jesus, our lives are surrendered to him to do his will, and by the grace of God we are able now to walk in the ways of the Lord and not in sin.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

My Sheep

Based off John 10:1-30 NIV
An Original Work / June 24, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

My sheep hear me. They know me.
They listen to my voice and obey.
I call them and lead them.
They know my voice, so they follow me.
They will never follow strangers.
They will run away from them.
The voice of a stranger they know not;
They do not follow him.

So, I tell you the truth that
I am the gate, so you enter in.
Whoever does enter
Will find forgiveness and will be saved.
Nonetheless whoever enters
Not by the gate; other way,
He is the thief and a robber.
Listen not, the sheep to him.

Oh, I am the Good Shepherd,
Who laid his own life down for the sheep.
I know them. They know me.
They will live with me eternally.
The thief only comes to steal and
Kill and to destroy the church.
I have come to give you life that
You may have it to the full…

They know my voice, so they follow me.

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CJ Penn · Jul 29, 2025

Modern Christianity suffers from 2000 years of human tinkering, manipulation, and customization. For evidence, consider the hundreds of different denominations, each with their own customized rules, doctrines, beliefs, and traditions. But how far have some of those variants drifted from what existed 2000 years ago? And what did exist 2000 years ago?

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Dan Perez · Jul 29, 2025

Xeno.of.athens said:
All your reply means is that I have not been indoctrinated to "see" it and you have been indoctrinated to "see" it that way. The text however does not SAY what you "see".

The text is about lawbreaking (sin) and death (the consequence of sin). And when it says "Not imputed" that means, people did not know, or made no record of lawbreaking; neither was lawbreaking imputed to them, as it was after the law was given through Moses, when they broke the known and written law of God. Nevertheless everyone died. The text says the opposite of what you say - you say that sin was imputed to them and the text says that it was NOT imputed to them and the text goes on to observe that they died anyway, despite not lawbreaking themselves. They died because death is inherited, it is part of human nature now, we are by nature mortal in this world.

And , she meant Rom 9:11. ?

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AV1611VET · Jul 29, 2025

sjastro said:
I thought creationists might have done better instead of using a convicted criminal to make the case for creationism.

Mr Hovind was rightfully applauded by the audience.

sjastro said:
Of course I might be engaging in a terrible strawman attack against this individual who appears to be on a money making exercise out of creationism rather than a genuine crusader in spreading the word.

Mr Hovind was rightfully applauded by the audience.

sjastro said:
According to the science nothing is created Ex Nihilio.

That's why I said in my OP:

"Here's my question:
What physical evidence would convince you this happened?
I submit there isn't any."

Put simply: science can take a hike.

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