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Biden beats Trump in recent conservative poll

Via illegally taxing Americans. Hooray!
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No room at the inn; Go find asylum somewhere else; Trump seeks to cancel thousands of asylum cases; applicants can be deported to third countries

LOL that made me laugh. The left screams race since 2015 - still does, as evidenced by a number of active and over 100 threads -

Bring up the error - and they ..... well it's evident

Perhaps that is why 18% is the best that can be done?
You cant expect the world to speak truth. Its always the other guy's fault.
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Trump says his 'own morality' is the only limit to his global power

And for some inexplicable reason the religious right is ok with all of that because he holds a Bible while doing it.

The religious right that much of Christianity is now, in this part of the world, is a cult, as far as I see it, that they support him and ignore what news is showing about him because he said to ignore it. If Trump's only limit is his own morality, we are in great and dangerous trouble leaving him in office, his sanity and health of mind is basis for his removal from office. It is nothing distinguishing him from any fascist totalitarian leader in power. This is not even with me saying anything about a candidate to support. I think there are great problems to see from any of those I have seen for such a high position. We would be better off being really responsible for ourselves.
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Do atheists constantly change the goalposts?

Oh, it can be subjective. But the question is: is evidence only recognized in relation to what one wants to find? I don't think it always is.

No, there was another argument in the video other than that one you've mentioned, and it's that one I was alluding to. But no matter, there's no need for you to further engage in something you're not interested in.


Cheers! :beermug:
Pro tip: You can use a time index on a YT link to point the the part of the video you want to discuss or use so we don't give up after getting through the earlier dreck.
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Political/Social opinions at the Olympics

I would draw the line at comments that are clearly anti-America, but let's face it, the world is angry at America. My son in South Korea says lots of expats are putting Canadian flag patches on their back packs because they are so embarrassed and ashamed of the current administration's destructive policies. (I don't think he has, but of course he shares many of those feelings. The country they call home, like most countries, is suffering economically from these erratic unconstitutional tariffs.)
These athletes are under a lot of pressure. Forcing them to smile and nod and defend the morally, ethically indefensible policies would surely create inner turmoil.
I love America, and I show it by voting, supporting ethical candidates, peaceful protest, and advocacy.
Trying to undo the indefensible is the height of patriotism.
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The Sabbath, Worship and the End Time

I addressed your every point. Used analogies to show my understanding and explain the reasons why. So your reply here is just another in a looooooong line of untruths and misrepresentation, both of God's Word, and mine,

Perhaps I didn't give you the answer you wanted to hear. But to say I didn't address a single point you made, is a huge windy.



What other reward is worth seeking? For me, Christ is my Salvation. And His Reward is eternal life that HE gives to those who "deny themselves, and follow Him".



Eternal life with God in heaven is the reward of those who diligently seek Him. At least this is what the Bible teaches. Surely you understand that there is more to Salvation than calling Jesus Lord, Lord.
Right but when I asked “you’re associating that reward with salvation, are you not” that was said in response to you claiming that you never said that we earn our salvation. That’s why I asked what is the definition of the word reward which you still haven’t answered despite my asking twice already. So I’ll ask a third time, what is the definition of the word reward?
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The Holy Spirit's Guarantee vs. Our Performance - Which One Saves?

If You Must Maintain Eternal Life, It Was Never Eternal

Paul roots salvation in God' action, God's seal & God's guarantee, not our performance.

Scripture never presents salvation as something we maintain. Titus 3 says God saved us not by our works but by regeneration & renewal, an act done to us, not a system we keep running.

Ephesians 1 says we heard, believed & were SEALED with the Holy Spirit, it's God's eternal life guarantee. A guarantee that depends on our obedience isn't God's guarantee at all.

John 15 doesn't teach self sustained salvation, the vine supplies the life, not the branch.

Redefining ""in Christ"" as ""those who obey the Law"" replaces Paul's stated positional position & definition, which is belief in the gospel.

Titus 3:8 says good works flow from salvation, not preserve it. That creates the core contradiction: if eternal life can be lost, it isn't eternal; if the guarantee depends on us, it isn't God's & if salvation rests on performance, we're only as secure as our best day.

The biblical pattern is consistent, God saves, seals, preserves & good works follow as fruit, not conditions.
If something something can be powered for eternity, then that is eternal life.

Obedience to the Law of God has absolutely nothing to with having a good enough performance. God's action is graciously teaching to experience being a doer of His law, which is how He is giving us His gift of saving us from not being a doer of it. In Titus 2:11-13, the content of our gift of salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so it someone is participating in that training in obedience to the Law of God through faith, but then rejects the content of their gift of salvation by doing what is ungodly and renouncing doing what is godly, righteous, and good, then they are no longer participating in that training and no longer have the content of their gift of salvation.

In Titus 3:5, is is speaking against becoming saved as the result of our works, so there are not works that we are required to have done first in order to become saved and we can't become saved even as the result of having had perfect obedience to the Law of God, but rather the experience of being a doer of the Law of God is the gift of salvation, which intrinsically requires us to be a doer of them in order to have that experience. Jesus saves us from our sin (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of the Law of God (1 John 3:4), so Jesus graciously teaching us to experience being a doer of it is intrinsically the way that he is giving us his gift of saving us from not being a doer of it, which requires our participation.

I did not claim that the branch provides life by that we need to remain in the vine in order to have life. If someone separates themselves from Christ and is no longer in the vine, then they no longer have eternal life.

In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Law of God was how his audience knew what sin is, so the way to believe the Gospel is by repenting and becoming a doer of the Law of God, which is the same as what it means to be in Christ. In Romans 15:18-19, Paul's Gospel brought Gentiles to obedience in word and in deed, and in Romans 10:16, 1 Peter 4:17, and 2 Thessalonians 1:8, they all speak against those who do not obey the Gospel. So 1 John 2:6 is in accordance with how Paul spoke about those who are in Christ.

Good works to not extrinsically flow from or into salvation, but rather the experience of being a doer of good works is intrinsically part of what salvation is.
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Jesus = Michael?

If I remember correctly, there was a minority opinion in some pre-Nicene Christians that Christ and Michael were identical or analogous, and that's probably how the book of Daniel was understood by some- the Son of Man was an angelic or semi-divine figure. Theree's even an Orthodox icon type that depicts Christ as an angel, but it isn't understood literally in modern Orthodoxy.

The philosopher and theologian David Betntley Hart might be useful here, because he'ld argue that ancient Second Temple Judaism, and ancient religion more broadly, had more fluid ideas about divinity that don't fit into later Greek philosophical categories You only really see this in religions like Shinto or Taoism today, but you can see "echoes" of this in Oriental and Eastern Orthodoxy.

There are plenty of ancient stories of Moses or Enoch sitting in God's throne and being worshipped, and late ancient Merkabah and Hekhalot mysticism described human ascent to the divine realms, potentially to become a divine or semi-divine being. Most scholars believe this was similar to the background that early Christian theology was working within, not primarily Greek philosophical categories.
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Neighbor/Sojourner/Stranger/Immigrant

Yes. A whole list of countries of brown and black people.
Not on the status removal list: Ukrainians.
Those offered asylum by Trump: South Africa (whites only)
Then there was the Trumpian language used - so unprofessional. But then I have not read very many EOs for comparison.
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WHY WATER BAPTISIM HAD TO GO AWAY ??

, placing your dependence in another; the person baptizing you

No, we don’t place our dependence on another we only depend on God through Jesus Christ. Any person can repent and believe anywhere on earth even if no other man is there to water baptize them. A person for example could be in a prison by thrmself and hear about Jesus and repentant believe the gospel and be saved right there. They do not depend on z man to water baptize them.
(surrendering your life to God), being washed (having your sins washed away),
Our sins are washed in the blood of Jesus and without Jesus shedding his blood for us we cannot be saved. Water does not wash away sins.

Continued..
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Red state residents lead growing rebellion against data centers that Trump loves

"BI" is Business intelligence.
That's one of those "oxymoron" things, right?
When companies send massive amounts of data into it to analyze sales/trends/etc... determine which sales pitches and promotions performed the best, analyzing sales & retention by zip code...

And having AI do that and spit out detailed results and accompanying charts, tables, graphs in an hour vs. waiting for a week team of BI/SQL developers to get their arms around that massive amount of data and write reports (that a sales person will then have to manually translate that into charts/graphs in powerpoint)
Do these "AI"s do statistical analyses that do not otherwise exist? Are they not just running it on the same data sets through the same algorithms? (Total sales, total sales by zip code, Year-over year changes, etc. are all standard things. No need for an AI to "estimate" them.)

Then it looks like the "AI"s do the "understanding", chart making, and write reports.

Frankly that sounds like a *bad* idea. Perhaps the C-suite guys were just nodding along to the presentation and not understanding it, but the sales people (and VP of Sales) making the presentation would. This seems like a *bad* thing that no one understands the data used to make decisions. (Note to self: Switch from stocks to a sandwich heavy portfolio.)
Or...
Things like customer service contact centers doing quality audits an uploading gigabytes and gigabytes of call recordings or chat transcripts in to get sentiment scores and analyze which approaches are working the best vs. having a team of 5 or 6 picking a handful of call recordings at random to manually listen to them to audit
We're going to let a machine judge "sentiment"? That will go well.
...those are the things that are the resource intensive AI operations, not someone bored on their couch asking ChatGPT "Which cast member on Happy Days was the oldest?"
Trick question. Some of them are dead. (If you're talking about the "youths", then that is almost certainly Henry "The Fonz" Winkler. I think that guy was a 30-year-old "teen".)
The sorting software (with an AI backend) would be in data centers. (much like the databases that supported their earlier software wasn't actually housed in the sorting facilities themselves)
That's not how the NVidia PR sheet reads.
Very few big outfits are leveraging "on-prem" servers these days. Most have their stuff hosted in Cloud services across multiple availability zones for redundancy.
While there has been some noticeable expansion data centers for "cloud services", the data centers in the thread are specifically the high-energy density GPU-powered "AI" data centers.
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Catholic Voters Still Back Trump, EWTN News/RealClear Poll Finds

The crisis for republicans, is that average voters matter.

Probably trying to please the Boss. The point remains. American voters think Biden was a better president than Trump. When a right-leaning pollster like Rasmussen says this, it's really, really bad news for Trump.
I don’t think Trump is running again. Do you think he is?
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Trump administration pushing aggressive expansion of sports betting

But my point was, how much is left of the "religious right" (in a Falwell/Dobson sense of the expression, not what's considered "religious right" by 2026 standards)

Are there even any prominent voices among that small remaining subset? So my question remains, who's the person or persons who's supposed to be doing this "call-out" for lack of moral consistency that we'd even get wind of?
Dobson dead, Falwell Jr who is definitely religious right having to step down because of his and his wife's perversion left a religious right institution still intact. Frankly Graham is still very much alive and religious right. Those who once condemned the character of a president being unfit for office because of his morality, now hold the view, "well, 'We're Not Voting for the Pastor-in-Chief" to explain away their cognitive dissonance. It doesn't take a clinical science to see how both groups rely on each other for the sake of power; which mutes the church group to hypercritical criticism
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Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested after Epstein files revelations as King says ‘law must take its course’

See? Just that quickly. Now, when is our government going to hold those in the files accountable? Or are they just going to drag their feet, procrastinate and continue to do nothing?
I wouldn't be too quick to judge. Wait till he's either convicted or acquitted.
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Do we need to use the Law in our evangelism?

Well an interesting line of enquiry would be to list those items where the lawyers took Jesus's statements as blasphemously adding or taking away from the Law. Because those people may have been hypocrites and intransigent, but they weren't stupid. They knew the Law. At some point we have to say that Jesus did something to the Law which fundamentally changed it's application and covenantal purpose.
I don't know. I just obey the new testament according to my understanding
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Is Scripture still inerrant according to theistic evolution?

I believe that at the time of the dover trials, 2005, Ken Miller was working on an edition of this particular text:
Ken's a Christian, BTW. And a very nice guy. I had the opportunity to meet him years ago.
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Zohran Mamdani Gets Ruthlessly Mocked for Requiring 5 Forms of ID to Be an ‘Emergency Snow Shoveler’: ‘This is Jim SNOW 2.0'

I'm confused now. Are they needing 5 IDs or 2? Which is it?
2 pieces of ID, 2 small pictures and have a Social Security number. The 2 pictures are probable for a file or one could be for a name tag.

It has been that way since the Federal government passed the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.
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