BrotherJJ said:

Adam "falling from grace"" is not the same category as a born‑again believer losing salvation & Scripture never uses Adam's fall to teach that regenerate people become un‑regenerate. Adam was never ""saved by grace through faith"" (Eph 2:8–9); he was a sinless man under a works‑probation covenant. When he fell, he did not lose salvation - he lost innocence & brought death into the world (Rom 5:12).

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I think Adam's fall was so severely punished, because even with his untainted, superior intellect, he committed idolatry. Adam preferred to please Eve instead of obeying God's command. He put what Eve wanted before what God commanded.

Deuteronomy 5:7
7 ‘You shall have no other gods before Me.

BrotherJJ said:

That is not the same thing as a sealed believer losing eternal life. Hebrews 12:15 is not about losing salvation but about believers guarding the community from bitterness & defilement - the same way Hebrews warns professing Jews not to reject Christ & return to temple sacrifices (Heb 10:26).

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So, there are no consequences for a Christian Jew if he later rejects Jesus Christ by committing sins against his commandments?

Titus 1:16
They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.

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Grace ""reigns to eternal life"" (Rom 5:21) precisely because it is not maintained by human performance. If salvation can be lost by sin, then salvation was never by grace to begin with (Rom 11:6). The New Testament is consistent: those who truly believe are sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption (Eph 1:13–14; Eph 4:30) & Jesus says His sheep will never perish & no one can snatch them from His hand (John 10:28–29). Adam's fall explains why humanity needs salvation; it does not redefine salvation as a fragile, reversible state for those who have already been justified, sealed & adopted

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So, a father cannot disinherit his child for any reason?

Colossians 3:5-7
Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, 7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.

Ephesians 5:5-7
For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.

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The SAVE America Act to require proof of citizenship nationwide to register to vote and overhaul voting laws has now topped 50 votes in the Republican-controlled Senate.

Sen. Susan Collins, the centrist from Maine who faces a competitive re-election bid this fall, became the 50th Republican supporter of the legislation, an elated Lee announced last week.

The tally guarantees a battle over the bill on the Senate floor as Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., has promised a vote. But he warned last week that there are “not even close” to enough votes for getting rid of the filibuster, despite Trump's calls to do so. [if the filibuster isn't nuked, the bill will fail to get the 60 votes needed.]

Republicans control 53 seats in the Senate. Some in the party have not signed on to the measure, including Sens. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. Murkowski called it an example of the “one-size-fits-all mandates from Washington” that Republicans regularly criticize. And McConnell, who hasn’t commented on the bill, has long said he believes states should run their own elections without federal intrusion.

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Schumer used to be a proponent of voter ID, that was before the flood the country with immigrants scheme. They really are going to have to get awrou

essentialsaltes said:

The SAVE America Act to require proof of citizenship nationwide to register to vote and overhaul voting laws has now topped 50 votes in the Republican-controlled Senate.

Sen. Susan Collins, the centrist from Maine who faces a competitive re-election bid this fall, became the 50th Republican supporter of the legislation, an elated Lee announced last week.

The tally guarantees a battle over the bill on the Senate floor as Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., has promised a vote. But he warned last week that there are “not even close” to enough votes for getting rid of the filibuster, despite Trump's calls to do so. [if the filibuster isn't nuked, the bill will fail to get the 60 votes needed.]

Republicans control 53 seats in the Senate. Some in the party have not signed on to the measure, including Sens. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. Murkowski called it an example of the “one-size-fits-all mandates from Washington” that Republicans regularly criticize. And McConnell, who hasn’t commented on the bill, has long said he believes states should run their own elections without federal intrusion.

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They can do it with 51, the Democrats would need to speak (filibuster) to delay the vote and then they wait until the Democrats are talked out.

Everybody has a fallen nature to deal with. Accountability is the only safeguard available.

David Lamb said:

First, why does the sun stay the same size?

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As it circles the skies it causes south to be light & the north to be dark & vice a versa, as such;



The sun is always the same size.

2.6 billion professing a belief in Christ does bot equate to 2.6 billion people following the Lord. The parable of the sower explains it perfectly.

Listen carefully: a sower went out to sow [seed in his field]; and as he sowed, some seed fell beside the road [between the fields], and the birds came and ate it. Other seed fell on rocky ground, where they did not have much soil; and at once they sprang up because they had no depth of soil. But when the sun rose, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. Other seed fell among thorns, and thorns came up and choked them out. Other seed fell on good soil and yielded grain, some a hundred times as much [as was sown], some sixty [times as much], and some thirty.

Three out of four produced no fruit. Only the ones with the harvest were counted.

~bella

truthuprootsevil said:

In Houston we have or had seven Seventh Day Evangelist Churches that was listed. I don't attend them regularly but I have attended Sabbath services from time to time.

And I add Doug Batchelor if he were here in Houston, I would attend every Sabbath. He is in excellent teacher and I make sure I listen to him every Sunday when he is aired.

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Hi is my old pastor when I lived in CA. He had a huge influence on me reclaiming my faith.

I feel anxious. I'll try to be content instead. I pray for it as well. Being anxious and anxiety isn't the same thing though. Anxiety can be fear and confusion. Its a mental infirmity. It can lead to psychosis. Thats my experience anyway.

GoldenBoy89 said:

Rubio’s always been one of the better clowns in the Trump 2.0 circus. Pretty amazing transformation from 2016 Marco who was brave enough to call out Trump for what he was.

Still, I’d take him over Vance to at least have a fellow Latino possibly hold such a high office as the presidency.

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You think he holds any kind of allegiance to his skin color? Or is this just the usual desire of the left to have new minorities in some political office for the first time?

tobelieveinHim said:

Thank you for the insult, secondhand etc..but that's not what I said..& it is what I said, all at the same time. 10mill views on a short reel only generates $800 or so, Unless the content creator has a management, that has a scholarship or something like that..
Usually the scholarships are some social justice warrior program..

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You weren't being insulted. Music is one of many niches that exists and the majority producing content aren't interested in doing that. I don't know anyone getting scholarships nor is music my focus. My associates and I built businesses and content is one aspect but it isn't the main thing for anyone. We care about sales and repeat customers and multiple income streams.

And 10,000,000 touches with $50,000 in revenue is 0.5%. That isn't a lot at all. The average conversion rate for a low ticket product is 2 to 5% which is 200,000 to 500,000 sales for organic traffic. If you apply the typical $9.97 to that figure you get $1,994,000 to $4,985,000. Email marketing is the highest performer and their conversation rate is 4 to 10.3%.

As I previously noted, most people aren't running businesses in the traditional sense. They're working for platforms and brands. What differentiates the two is the ability to solve problems. Which businesses do through goods and services. I'm not confused about the way this works. I've done it for a while and I'm helping three people launch ventures as we speak. We all have different backgrounds. Not everyone in this medium is starting out. Many are leveraging professional skills for greater spoils.

Either way, I have nothing more to say on the matter.

~bella

Douggg said:

No way was Jesus outside the temple in any of Luke 21.

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It's clear that you are not making any effort to see my argument. Why would you agree that Mark 12:37-44 is an account of the same event as Luke 20:45-Luke 21:4, but then somehow conclude that the verses which follow each passage (Mark 13:1-37, Luke 21:5-36) are not also accounts of the same thing? That makes no sense. If Mark 12:37-44 is an account of the same event as Luke 20:45-Luke 21:4, as you agreed is the case, then it only follows that Mark 13:1-2 is an account of the same thing as Luke 21:5-6, which means that only one time did Jesus say that the temple buildings standing at that time would be destroyed and He said that after leaving the temple, according to Mark 13:1-2. So, we can safely assume that He was outside the temple in Luke 21:5-6.

And, with that, I'm done talking about this. You obviously just believe whatever you want to believe without being willing to honestly consider any opposing arguments and that's just a sad thing to witness. You are not interested in discovering the truth when it comes to end times doctrine.

I understand severe mental illness. My heart goes out to others who suffer with it. My own journey with depression, anxiety, and psychosis is lonely and burdensome right now. I hope to find friends who understand the struggle.

Servus said:

Have you been pining for it the last 20 years or just recently? Are you asking why haven't they faced justice over the last 20-30 years.

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I wouldn't have pined about something I didn't know about so not the last 20 years no.

It's pretty obvious why nobody has faced justice for this long. "They" are trying to cover it up.

We are in a position now to get actual full disclosure on this, and you seem more fixated the past instead of putting this energy into this final push to bring it all into the light.

NOBODY is arguing with you here Servus. EVERYONE would be happy to see all these folks covering up end up in jail. You don't need to keep harping on about it. The victims were in court DIRECTLY behind Bondi.

For a long time, nobody believed and the rich tried to silenced these victims. There were suspicions of course but nothing tantamount to somethign that could be considered court evidence.

NOW, there are some VERY convincing pieces of evidence that have been shared. The AG is sitting right there, looking at all that evidence, and is refusing to speak to the victims. This is not the cover up the last 20 years where there was no evidence presented that there WAS A coverup. Now we KNOW there's a coverup, but we are trying to deal with the crimes that were being covered up...NOT the cover up itself. That's later.


It sure is swell to remember that these crimes have been covered up for the last 20-30 years. But it's like your late to the party and you're trying to take your eyes off the price: justice for the acts BEFORE justice for the coverup just seems logical. These victims SHOULD be getting justice now and they are not. For some reason you don't appear to be questioning why the DOJ isn't pursuing charges against anyone.

You have people like Massie, who has access to everything saying stuff like "if this all got out, the whole system would collapse". I mean, we both know that isn't true. Rich people NEVER face consequences for their actions....but he's saying a lot of people are involved in this.

HARK! said:

That depends on how you define Israel.

In the beginning Israel was torah observant.

The the Northern Tribes (House of Israel) was carried away. That left the House of Judah in the land.

Yah renews the covenant for The obedient of Judah and Yahshua comes for his lost sheep of the Hose of Israel.

This reunites Israel as one house.

(CLV) Mk 3:25
And if ever a house should be parted on itself, that house will not be able to stand.

Again, the renewed covenant is with Israel.

Yahshua came for none but the lost sheep of Israel.

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o_mlly said:

So we can see that the biologists won't be of much help here as they focus on the material and trivial only.

As argued earlier, humans are bodies and souls -- rational souls. So we look to archaeologists who will help us find and date evidence of behaviors that can only be attributed to rational man.

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There is an assumption here that the creation of mankind in Genesis is a matter of rationality. Or even intellect. But of course, the Bible doesn't suggest such a thing.

YeshuaFan said:

Jesus stated

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Jesus stated fear that one that can destroy "both body and soul in hell. Which lines up with his teaching that the lake of fire is the "second death".

This also lines up with the teachings in Malachi 4 that the wicked will be burned up, leaving neither root or branch, ashes and so on. If we take the bible as a whole, it's always life or death. The former things will pass away and Jesus also states he makes "all" things new.

Hentenza said:

Dear Jan, we are talking past each other. You are not really addressing my posts but just posting verses that you think defeat the verses I posted. I’m not going down that rabbit hole. Thanks for the convo.

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I apologize for the misunderstanding. I was showing you with Scripture verses how I came to believe the way I do.

I do not know what you are expecting from me.

Travelling expense

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen

• Late Show" host Stephen Colbert called CBS' denial of his claim that it blocked the broadcast of his interview with Texas state Rep. James Talarico "crap."
• Colbert urged the network and its parent, Paramount Skydance, to stand up to the "bullies" in the Trump administration, including Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr.
• The host on Monday had said CBS' lawyers told him "in no uncertain terms ... that we could not have [Talarico] on the broadcast."

"Late Show" host Stephen Colbert on Tuesday night called CBS' denial of his claim that it blocked the broadcast of his interview with Texas state Rep. James Talarico "crap" — and urged the network and its parent, Paramount Skydance, to stand up to the "bullies" in the Trump administration.

Colbert's broadside came hours after CBS issued a statement on the controversy.

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I think it refers more to the new spiritualities. But the statement without further elaboration doesn't really tell one where anyone is at.

"Spirituality" as such can be merely horizontal, soulish, and of this world. Christian spirituality is more vertical - with Christ Jesus as the Mediator.


"It is theologically proper to assert that God is essentially and primarily transcendent and secondarily immanent. This is to say, he is above us before he is within us, and beneath us." Donald G. Bloesch

To think of God as "above us" is not to speak of a three storey universe as such, its to use height as a symbol of the divine transcendence.

I do not say there should not be such trust in God. But then if we do, we should do as God directs us, it is not what others say what God wants. God had shown most important things for what to do at the start. We are supposed to have good stewardship in this world. There is really failure in that, and with cities now it cannot happen, the destruction in this world with our involvement God hates. That's right, God hates that, Revelation 11:18. With all the other abuse through history, God will not let it go on, and would have us come out. Rapture out from this world is something else other than obedience we should have in knowing God's will as far as shown to us, all along, no believers were taken out from the troubles to themselves in any persecution, being taken out when that happens will have believers not under judgment from God then not here in this world when God's judgment is coming on the unrepentant everywhere in this world.