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Denaturalization

I am an American citizen by birth and a born-again Christian. If there were ever a war between Israel and the USA, I'm unsure which side I would support. Does this uncertainty mean I should lose my citizenship?
I guess I really don't understand this "born again" thing, because I can't figure out why that would involve backing the State of Israel against your own country.
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Church is boring

I haven’t been going to church in a while. I feel like it’s boring. I find myself daydreaming and the sermons are good, but I really don’t like to sing or stand up. I like just saying prayers and even though the sermons are good, I don’t feel like going. I’m not really getting anything out of the Bible study, either, which is online. When I do go to church, I do tithe.
Am I falling away or is this not the right church for me? The people are nice.
Hello! I sometimes find large and long services a bit hard. I prefer to help out in ministries or smaller meetings. Maybe there might be something, a ministry you can serve in, something that you're interested in? Like Sunday School, finance, stewarding, caretaking, etc? I enjoy helping the elderly or those with anxiety to fit into church. As the old saying goes, if you do something you're passionate about you'll never work a day in your life! God Bless
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Ellen White on the mark of the beast for those that worship on Sunday

Thank you for clarifying your concern. I agree with you on an important starting point: God did not “get rid of” any of His commandments. Scripture never says that. What it does say—repeatedly—is that God fulfilled them in Christ.
Jesus fulfilled the law, not destroyed Mat5:17 and fulfill does not mean because Christ fullfed the law we can now vain His name or break any of these commandments. Jesus addressed this plainly Mat5:19


Where we differ is here: if any day—Sabbath included—is treated as salvific or as a test of genuine faith, then Christ’s obedience and sacrifice are no longer sufficient in practice, even if affirmed in words (Gal 5:4; Phil 3:8–9).

So are you saying we can worship other gods and go after our idols and that's an example of faith to God?
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Anybody know if Rob Reiner is okay?

Does this mean that it's now acceptable to say that Charlie Kirk is to blame for his own death?
There's one column for people who deserved what they had coming to them for their free speech, and another column for martyrs.
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Christmas and Legalism

Hello Richard! Thanks for your post. I think there is a pressure on often struggling believers to partake in meaningless activities at this time of year. There was a Christian lady I knew who used to peer into people's windows to see if they had a Christmas Tree and if not knock on their door and ask why not. Well meaning I suppose but annoying.
I Imagine many of those folks are not legalistic but just wishing the widow to come out of grieving and do something that takes her mind off her husband's death. In general though you seem right on focusing on the true meaning of Christmas.
I have been accused of being a Jehovah's Witness more then once. I guess Jehovah's Witnesses are not into Santa and Christmas Trees then! God Bless :)
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Trump administration says sign language services ‘intrude’ on Trump’s ability to control his image

Correct, because when an elected official is giving an address or a presser, that official should be the center of attention.
Maybe take some time and read what you're responding to?

If you think that the administration firing a translator because they're a bit "extra" makes for bad optics, how is that any worse than the administration getting rid of ASL translation altogether because some translators can get a bit "extra"?

I'm not challenging the premise. I'm challenging your reasoning as to why the administration did what it did.
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Hunt for Brown University shooting suspect underway

I asked you why you have that opinion. We're discussing it.

Have you seen something that leads you to the opinion that this was perpetrated by a Islamist?

Yes, thank you, my observations are based on the impatience seen in free-palestine movements, where oftentimes, even friends of the cause are attacked simply for not going "far enough". A good example of that would be how the free-Palestine movement has chosen to heckel and protest Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, on several occasions, even though she was an advocate for their cause. Even her campaign office was vandalized.

Likewise, I could see the same mindset on an attack of Brown University, even though it was the site of many free protests, but perhaps like AOC, they didn't go 'far enough' either.
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General question: The State of Israel and its relationship with Christian Communities.

When I was doing an internship at the World Zionist Organization in Jerusalem I was told that there was a specific denomination which donated millions to our projects. I even asked why they would do such a thing but they basically told me: "don't ask, we need the funding".

Now as a Christian my question is a little different:
why do some Christians feel a strong connection with the secular state of Israel? If it is only related to biblical places then one can also include support for Egypt.
Moreover, is there a specific group that is more into funding Israeli projects and why?

One a side note;
The modern term "Jew/s" did not exist in biblical times. Neither was there the concept of "Judaism" as we know it today.
The reason to support the secular state of Israel because of "Jews" as the chosen people is rather strange in my opinion.

Netflix's promotion of LGBT themes, sexual preferences in kids' shows 'pervasive': report

First, it's more like 9%.
Hello! You're right 1.5% was an old figure from a previous UK Census. The last UK census in 2023 gave 3.8% identifying as gay or queer, 10.4% of 18-24 year olds. Still hugely less than the 41% of content on Netflix which means Netflix are promoting an agenda not representing demographics. Their agenda seems to be working, the number of people identifying as homosexual is increasing. God Bless :)
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How does the priest do this?

So you went to the vigil Mass and then the Sunday Mass the next day?

Priest usually gives the same homily at the Masses they celebrate that week-end.
They do but I thought it was interesting how well-done the similarity was considering the length, and not reading off anything.
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I hold a view similar to the Open View of God.

There is no hope if God is not omniscent.

The Bible uses anthropomorphic language to help us understand events regarding an infinitely glorious God.

You are also going by pure English, In Hebrew, the word used is נָחַם (nāḥam), which can mean:

to grieve

to be pained

to relent

to feel sorrow
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The Church, Nicaragua and Christmas

This is truly a Christmas special and it would do our souls good to think of our brothers and sisters in Christ around the world at this time and remember that God works across the world in different cultures and contexts.

13-year-old Alaia and nine-year-old Manuela have fond memories of Christmas in Nicaragua, but this wasn't to last. As well as the usual festivities, her parents would share the Gospel with others.

One day Alaia and Manuela’s father received a phone call and the father said to the man on the phone he'd be there in a few minutes. The end of the day arrived and the girls and their mum heard nothing. Their mum said “Remember when I told you that something could happen to your dad or me because of preaching about Jesus?” “That day has come. Your dad has been arrested.”

The family didn't hear from the dad- days became months and they did not even know if he was dead or alive. Then he called them- he told them to flee the country.

Alaia, Manuela and their mum fled- miraculously they fled the border with zero papers and soon the father, by God's grace, joined them.

The family are now in a new Country- what a blessing they must be to their church family, they do however miss Nicaragua at Christmas.

I will finish with this quote BY A 13 YEAR OLD Alaia- unbelievably wise beyond her years by God's grace. “I learned that persecution teaches you not to cling to earthly things, one day we’ll die and won’t take anything with us. So, the best thing we can do is live – and even die – for Christ.”

Source:

Open Doors Prayer Diary Nov/Dec 2025

State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

If Christians can't exercise the degree of social discipline in this country that they desire to, what makes you think that Muslims will be able to?

I would argue that Christians could exercise a much higher degree of religiosity and government entanglements if they really wanted to.

That's the thing, most don't want to.

The percentage of Christians that would want some sort of Christian theocracy is lower than the percentage of their Muslim counterparts who would want that.


The one stat I highlighted a few pages back.

Even among the 45% who say "The US should be a Christian Nation", only a quarter of that subset want any measure of codified state religion.

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Similarly, among those who say in the new survey that the U.S. should be a Christian nation, only about a quarter (24%) said in the prior survey that the federal government should advocate Christian religious values. About twice as many (52%) said the government should “advocate for moral values that are shared by people of many faiths.”


Which lines up with the global outcomes we see. Only 31 of the ~120 (about a quarter) Christian-majority countries have any level of religion codified via law.



Or, in short, your premise is a tad flawed.

The lack of "Christian version of Sharia" in this country isn't due to legal guardrails stopping them from implementing their desired level of religiosity, it's that 75% of them don't actually desire it.

Your premise seemed to operate on the assumption that the majority of Christians are chomping at the bit to have a theocracy, and that our laws were the only thing stopping them, so "If it's stopping the Christians from doing that, its sufficient to stop Muslims from doing that should they ever become a majority"
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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

NO sir, LOL, you have not "Got it".

Your argument sir, is built on silence.

For me God isn't Silent at all. He said, "Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."
It’s really quite simple. Which laws, commandments, or statutes did Abraham keep? Book and verse please.
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Concerns About the Foundations of the Gentile Christian Movement in Acts 15

If pay diligent and close attention to the words of Yeshua we can see the Paul was on his own, starting from a poor foundation in Acts 15, as stated in the article. The Apostle John understood all this if you read 1 John 2:19: "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be manifest that they were not all of us." As stated in the article also, Paul never quotes Yeshua at all other than 2 Cor 12:8-9, where the context is questionable anyway. Since when does Satan have a duty to buffet people for being prideful? He is the very author of pride from the very beginning, if you look at Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:17. And since when did Yeshua extend his grace to cover the sin of pride? These things don't make sense and I'm clearly not the one to say we need to discard Paul's gospel, but I do know for sure that we need to adhere closely to the words of Yeshua, and hold onto them steadfastly no matter what, especially if there are conflicts from other sources. Thanks. Bob
This is what I think, too!

Paul holds a lot of clout in the bible for having never met Jesus and getting information second hand from apostles who were directly appointed and spent time with Jesus while He was on Earth.

Why, though? I don't have access to the Torah, I don't have access to the original language from which everything has been translated and I don't have Paul to talk to etc. Some things just don't add up with Paul and I think it is right to question this? I'm not saying he's wrong and I'm right, or there aren't things out there which confirm why he said what he said etc, but I can't take it on face value with the information I have?
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Israel-Hamas Thread II

A new in-depth study (Hebrew) by Israel's Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Centre concludes that a significant majority of those identified as journalists and media workers killed during the Gaza war were not neutral news gatherers, but belonged to terrorist organisations, including Hamas and "Palestinian" Islamic Jihad.

The study examined 266 "Palestinians" who were described as journalists or media workers in various press reports and official lists and who were killed between the outbreak of hostilities on Oct 7 2023 and the end of 2025. According to the findings, at least 157 of these victims, about 60 per cent, were members of terrorist organisations or had clear links to such organisations, including in roles involving both propaganda and operational activities.

Of these, 104 were affiliated with Hamas, 45 with "Palestinian" Islamic Jihad, and a smaller number with the armed wings of Fatah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of "Palestine", the Democratic Front for the Liberation of "Palestine", or the Popular Resistance Committees.

The analysis by the intelligence centre emphasises that these were not isolated or random cases. Rather, many of the individuals counted as journalists were involved in terrorist networks, they were employed by media companies run by Hamas or its allies, or were actively involved in military units. In a number of documented cases, individuals described as media professionals also acted as fighters or agents, reflecting a deliberate strategy by terrorist organisations to combine media work with operational objectives.

For decades, Hamas has invested heavily in its information apparatus and treats the media as a central front in its ideological and tactical campaigns. Its own publications and channels are strictly controlled by the movement and not by independent press associations, which reinforces the link between media work and political warfare.

International press freedom organisations and human rights groups have repeatedly cited the casualties among journalists in Gaza as evidence of disproportionate use of force or targeted attacks by Israeli forces. Last year, Reporters Without Borders claimed that Israel was responsible for a large proportion of journalist deaths worldwide, citing dozens of "Palestinian" media workers killed in the conflict. Such assessments have been used to portray Israel as particularly hostile to media workers.

However, the Intelligence Centre's study puts this portrayal into perspective by showing that a significant proportion of those identified as journalists were not independent or neutral reporters, but rather were affiliated with terrorist organisations. Many of those counted were associated with media outlets effectively controlled by Hamas or other militant factions, making them part of the political and military apparatus of those organisations rather than autonomous observers.

The category ‘journalist’ in Gaza can no longer be regarded as synonymous with neutrality without carefully examining the affiliation and role of each individual.
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What happens spiritually that makes us born again?

I'll Quote Macarthur for context. on these passages in Acts. If you can give me your thoughts on this.


" the believers in Samaria who were converted under the ministry of Philip had to wait a short while to receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit, until Peter and John came up to Samaria and laid hands on the converts (Acts 8:17). In that unique transitional situation as the Church was beginning, those particular believers had to wait for the Holy Spirit, but they were not told to seek Him. The purpose for that exception was to demonstrate to the apostles, and to bring word back to the Jewish believers in general, that the same Holy Spirit baptized and filled Samaritan believers as baptized and filled Jewish believers--just a short while later Peter and a few other Jewish Christians were sent to witness to Cornelius and his household in order to be convinced that the gospel was for all men and to see that "the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also"(Acts 10:44-45). Those special transitional events did not represent the norm, as our present text makes clear, but were given to indicate to all that the body was one"....

"Why did the Samaritans (and later the Gentiles) have to wait for the apostles before receiving the Spirit? For centuries, the Samaritans and the Jews had been bitter rivals. If the Samaritans had received the Spirit independent of the Jerusalem, that rift would have been perpetuated. There could well have been two separate churches, a Jewish church and a Samaritan church. But God had designed one church, in which "there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female," but "all are one in Christ Jesus" (Gal. 3:2.)...

By delaying the Spirit's coming until Peter and John arrived, God preserved the unity of the church. The apostles needed to see for themselves, and give firsthand testimony to the Jerusalem church, that the Spirit came upon the Samaritans. The Samaritans also needed to learn that they were subject to apostolic authority. The Jewish believers and Samaritans were thus linked together in one body....

Today, believers receive the Spirit at salvation (cf.1 Cor. 12:13). There was no need for delay after Jews, Gentiles, Samaritans, and Old Testament saints were already included in the church.
(Macarthur)


Today...

"Being filled with the spirit must be distinguished from being baptized with the spirit. The apostle Paul carefully defines the baptism with the spirit as that act of Christ by which He places believers into His body (Romans 6:4-6; 1 Corinthians 12:13; Galatians 3:27). In contrast to much errant teaching today, the New Testament nowhere commands believers to seek the baptism with the Holy Spirit. It is a sovereign, single, unrepeatable act on Gods part, and is no more an experience than are its companions justification and adoption. Although some wrongly view the baptism with the Spirit as the initiation into the ranks of the spiritual elite, nothing could be further from the truth. The purpose of the baptism with the spirit is not to divide the body of Christ, but to unify it. As Paul wrote to the Corinthians, through the baptism with the Spirit "we were all baptized into one body" (1 Corinthians 12:13; cf. Galatians 3:26-27; Ephesians 4:4-6)

Unlike the baptism with the Spirit, being filled with the Spirit is an experience and should be continuous. Although filled initially on the day of Pentecost, Peter was filled again in Acts 4:8. Many of the same people filled with the Spirit in Acts 2 were filled again in Acts 4:31. Acts 6:5 describes Stephen as a man "full of faith and the Holy Spirit," yet Acts 7:55 records his being filled again. Paul was filled with the Spirit in Acts 9:17 and again in Acts 13:9.

While there is no command in scripture to be baptized with the Spirit, believers are commanded to be filled with the Spirit (Ephesians 5:18 ). The grammatical construction of that passage indicates believers are to be continuously being filled with the Spirit. Those who would be filled with the Spirit must first empty themselves. That involves confession of sin and dying to selfishness and self will. To be filled with the Holy Spirit is to consciously practice the presence of the Lord Jesus Christ and to have a mind saturated with the Word of God. Colossians 3:16-25 delineates the results of "letting the word of Christ richly dwell" in us. They are the same ones that result from the filling of the Spirit (Ephesians 5:19-33). As believers yield the moment by moment decisions of life to His control, they "walk by the Spirit" (Galatians 5:16). The baptism of the Spirit grants the power that the filling with the Spirit unleashes."
(Macarthur)
Macarthur said: " the believers in Samaria who were converted under the ministry of Philip had to wait a short while to receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit, until Peter and John came up to Samaria and laid hands on the converts.

But wait! The Bibles says prior to the apostles coming they were baptized: Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.

So, why was that not Christian water baptism?

Look again since Macarthur does not address this: Acts 8: 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

The Bibles does not say John and Peter baptized them, but prayed over them and laid hands on them, there is nothing about a “rebaptism”?

The example is still for us to baptize “someway?” in the name of Jesus and then some other way (this being by the laying on of the Apostles’ hands), receive miraculous powers of the Spirit.

They are also called “converts” prior to obtaining the miraculous powers of the Spirit.

Macarthur comes up with quite a story, but why would it not also apply to the Ethiopian Eunuch?

I do not agree with Macarthur’s “logic” concerning the Samarians.

Please go on and read further in Acts 8: 36 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?” … 38 And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him. 39 When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him again, but went on his way rejoicing

This certainly sounds like water immersion baptism, so why do we not follow this example?
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RFK Adjusts Hepatitis B Vaccine Recommendations; Democrats Lose Their Minds

Do you have evidence of child deaths occurring from the COVID vaccine?
Not definitively.
Or just an article that says it "may" have happened?
Yes, "may" have happened.
I can't read the full article, because apparently I've read too many free articles from The Atlantic - but every other source says that no evidence of deaths was presented.
From the article:
No public-health authorities deny that COVID shots can have some ill effects. Adverse reactions are possible with all medical interventions. The mRNA-based vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna, in particular, are known to cause myocarditis—inflammation of the heart—on rare occasions, especially in teenage boys and young men. The form of myocarditis that occurs after vaccination is typically far less severe than the one caused by viruses; for unclear reasons, mRNA-related cases have largely disappeared in recent years. But this condition can be deadly, and considering the hundreds of millions of mRNA doses that have been administered to Americans, even extraordinarily unlikely outcomes may well be inevitable.​
The article concludes:
The possibility—perhaps the likelihood—that a handful of vaccine-related deaths occurred and were downplayed by medical authorities does not undermine the fact that COVID vaccination, on the whole, has prevented death on a massive scale. Nor does it justify sweeping changes to vaccine regulations. Rather, it suggests the need for some targeted reforms, such as improvements to the country’s vaccine-adverse-event reporting system—and also tells us that a strategy of minimizing tragic outcomes, however rare, may not be the best way to protect a vital instrument of public health.​

There is evidence that the mRNA vaccines can cause myocarditis in young men, but at far lower rates than the infection does. There is new research on the mechanism at play and how it might be mitigated or even prevented.

Myocarditis is a rare but real Covid vaccine side effect. A new study sheds light on what might cause it
Results point to two immune signals, and possible methods to keep them from going awry
“I want to emphasize this is very, very rare. This study is purely to understand why. In those rare cases, what’s going on? People talk about it, and here we provide a mechanism,” said Joe Wu, director of Stanford Cardiovascular Institute and the study’s senior author.​
Billions of doses of mRNA vaccine have been administered worldwide against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, including in countries with large, centralized health systems, such as Canada, England, South Korea, and Israel. Data from those countries and the U.S. allowed researchers to spot cases of chest pain, shortness of breath, and palpitations in some recently vaccinated people. These symptoms, which were mostly mild, appear after about 7 out of every million first vaccine doses. The frequency rises to 31 cases out of every million second doses, and 60 out of every million doses among men under 30.


SARS-CoV-2 infection causes myocarditis at much higher rates than immunization, with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reporting 1,500 cases per million Covid-19 patients. Cases caused by infection also tend to be more severe than those induced by immunization.


While researchers initially hypothesized that vaccine-induced myocarditis might be caused by an allergic response to the shots or autoimmunity, more recent research has pointed to inflammatory proteins.[/url]

I don't know of any deaths caused by mRNA induced myocarditis, but I didn't search for it.
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Media Framing of the First Female Archbishop of the Anglican Church

The Church of England made history on October 3 by naming Sarah Mullally, 63, as the first woman to hold the post of Archbishop of Canterbury, a landmark decision in the Church’s 1,400-year history. A former Bishop of London and nurse by profession, Archbishop-designate Mullally’s elevation to the highest seat in the Anglican Communion has sparked both celebration and reflection, not least among scholars of media and politics.

The announcement has not only marked a historic moment for the Anglican Church but also revealed how different media institutions frame the intersection of faith, gender, and modernity. The varying portrayals of Mullally’s appointment across global outlets, from The Guardian and BBC to CNN, Associated Press, and Deutsche Welle (DW) demonstrate how the same event can be interpreted through distinct ideological and cultural lenses.

Breaking the “Stained-Glass Ceiling”

The Associated Press (AP) chose to frame Mullally’s appointment as a moment of rupture with ecclesiastical tradition, describing it as “shattering a stained-glass ceiling.” Quoting George Gross, an expert on monarchy and religion at King’s College London, AP noted, “If you can have a female prime minister and a female monarch, why can’t you have a female archbishop?” Yet this framing, while rhetorically effective, reveals an implicit conflation between the secular and the sacred spheres, a logical fallacy from the perspective of political theology, which upholds the distinction between church and state.

The AP’s additional portrayal of Mullally as “first among equals” subtly reinforces the notion of measured progress within a hierarchical institution, acknowledging both the historic nature of the decision and the ongoing resistance within traditionalist circles.

“Renewal and Hope” or “Bitterly Contested Equality”?

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TMZ is reporting that actor-director Rob Reiner and his wife have been murdered

Now there are reports coming out that Nick Reiner was attempting a "transgender conversion" and was pumped full of synthetic hormones in preparation for a sex change. Whether the hormones had anything to do with driving him over the edge is unknown.
Really? I have not ran across that yet.
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Who created our cultural Dark Ages? Blaming the Right is tempting — and wrong

The last quarter century in Western cultural life has been wasted. Everything is a little bit mid, as the kids say. There have been impressive individual works of art and entertainment. But taken as a whole, the picture is bleak: our artistic output is derivative and cheaply didactic, either moralizing or starved for moral judgment and ideas. Now, as cultural criticism confronts this epochal failure, it’s easy to cast partisan blame, with a still-dominant Left critical establishment training its sights on the Right.
Easy — but inaccurate.

Cultural life in the 21st century doesn’t feel tortured or ecstatic so much as muted. We aren’t truly bored anymore; boredom has been technologically abolished. Every stray second can be plastered over with a feed, a notification, a video “For You,” an algorithmic recommendation tuned precisely to prevent mental calm. But neither are we animated. There are widespread predictions of a coming civil war and calls for a political uprising, yet neither is remotely on the horizon — because we aren’t passionate enough. Instead, we drift in a gray zone between stimulation and stupor, provoked but under-engaged, surrounded by infinite novelty that no longer feels all that novel.

Our clothes arrive in two days and fall apart in three. Travel is cheaper, but cities blur into one another, interchangeable landscapes of chain restaurants, and “authentically curated” coffee shops identical from Denver to Dublin. The internet, once a wild frontier, now feels like a series of endlessly recycled aesthetics: girl dinner, cottagecore, blokecore, everything a core, everything a remix.

It’s precisely this sense of living in a stagnant wasteland that Blank Space, W. David Marx’s wide-ranging survey of 21st century-culture, tries to map. In his previous polemic, 2022’s Status and Culture, the Tokyo-based culture-vulture took a sanguine approach to contemporary life, arguing that the omnivorous approach to cultural consumption in the West — where there is no more snobbery, and where elites enjoy “not just high culture, but pop and indie, niche and mass, new and old, domestic and foreign, primitive and sophisticated” — is by and large a good thing for the sake of flattening the class distinctions of old. We were slouching toward equality.

Now, Marx worries that the lack of pretense in contemporary culture is no utopia, that it might mean we’re all eating from the same trough of slop. Across nearly 400 increasingly exasperated pages, Marx convincingly argues that art, entertainment, and fashion since the year 2000 have been some combination of uninspired, recycled, soulless, corporatized, or plainly dumb — so much so that there is a blank space where a distinct cultural imprint should be.

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Archaeologists uncover rare fresco of Jesus in town Pope Leo XIV recently visited The fresco was found near the birthplace of the Nicene Creed

Archaeologists in Turkey have discovered a fresco of a Roman-looking Jesus as the "Good Shepherd," which is being hailed as one of the most important finds from Anatolia's early Christian era.

The work of art was found in August in an underground tomb near the town of Iznik, where the Nicene Creed, a foundational statement of Christian belief, was adopted in A.D. 325. The tomb itself is believed to date back to the third century, when the area was still under the Roman Empire and Christians faced persecution.


Archaeologists restore frescos in Turkey

Archaeologists clean and restore frescoes inside a 3rd-century tomb where a rare early Christian depiction of Jesus as the "Good Shepherd" was discovered, in Iznik, Turkey, Friday, Dec. 12, 2025.(Khalil Hamra/AP Photo)

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