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Sabbath Keeping and The Gospel

Abolish or fulfill? How does he Abolish something he promised in Isaiah?
And what about the new moon feasts? Are we required to observe those now?

“Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭16‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

“And it shall be from new moon to new moon And from sabbath to sabbath, All mankind will come to bow down before Me,” says the Lord.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭66‬:‭23‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬
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Prayed and Got No Answer?

I think that sometimes when we pray to God and get no answer, it doesn’t always mean He is saying no!! :cookie::cookie::custard::custard:

Sometimes we need to be more patient and wait on His Timing.

But yes if someone is asking God for something bad then His Answer would be no. Because He Is Good.


God Is A Good Father!! :hug::hug::cookie::cookie::custard::custard:
Hey, actually the outcomes are not random.
It is not good luck or bad luck.
There are conditions - please read the third post in this thread Go to 3rd post
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Have you guys ever done anything...odd?

I remember one time I went looking for my reading glasses only to discover that they were still on my face.

I felt so stupid. I think I am losing I.Q. points just remembering this.

But I am sure I'm not the only one who has ever done that.
What's not odd about me would be the question.
After surgery, the Dr had me on a liquid diet, then semi-solid and so on; then one day, "Ok, you can eat normally now!" --"WOW! Thanks, Doc! I've never been able to eat normally before!"

I've been talking to a friend on the phone while getting ready to go somewhere, gathering my things, and can't find my phone...
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NY Fed report says Americans pay for almost all of Trump's tariffs, water is wet

Yeah, about CO2 "determined" to be a health hazard:

You do realize that this was due to a legal decision in Massachusetts vs EPA in 2007. Right?
No, the problems associated with a rise in CO2 is a scientific fact.
And right now, after the cold weather we had in January, AGW is a hard sell.
Only to those ignorant of what climate change involves.
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Fear, pain and hunger: The dire impact of shutting down USAID in Africa, leaving a vacuum for China and Russia

Personally, I think the cuts were wrong...
Then I'm glad that we have a point of agreement. As regards the death toll...it's too hard to fix an exact figure. But it's beyond any doubt that people would die. The administration seemed not to consider it in any way. I can't understand that.

And as regards the politics...Well, I've given my view on that.
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Daniel 9:27 – Hiphil Causatives, Twin Parentheticals, and Prophetic Judgment Sacrifice

. Luke certainly knew Matthew and Mark and would have no problem confirming the identity of the Abomination of Desolation, indicating it was an abominable, pagan Army encircling Jerusalem, preparing to desolate it.
Luke 21 records what Jesus spoke about when in the temple courtyard, or just temple for short in the text.

Matthew 24 and Mark 13 records what Jesus spoke about when on the mount of Olives.

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Luke 21;20-24, when it was fulfilled, took place when Roman encircled Jerusalem in 70 AD, agreed. Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Luke 21:24 transitions to the end times.

Luke 21:25 then jumps to near the end of the 7 years of Daniel 9:27, and Jesus's return is in Luke 21:27
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

The abomination of desolation is not mentioned in Luke 21.

For the proper breakdown of the verses, I have organized on my Olivet Discourse chart....

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What’s on your mind?

Hey GodDoesListen55, what's wrong? Why are you freaking out? Tell auntie deanie aaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllll about it.

There is just a lot going on in my life right now, and I am feeling overwhelmed, that's all.
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CNN's Data Guru Reveals How the Far-Left Is Devouring Democratic Party

Having been a low level jack in the Democratic Party, running for district delegate positions and sometimes getting elected to those positions I saw how de-diversifying the Democrats were. They wanted to know if you were pro-life so they could be sure to exclude you. There were some rules to protect minorities in the party and we used them to try to get just one pro-life person from our district to the state convention. But we were heretical to those in power and we were excluded. So don’t talk to me about how Democrats are so open to a wide variety of views.
Oh, I'm sure there are many Democrats within the party who seek to further one agenda or another, that's just politics SOP. Republicans do it too, of course. But, and this is coming from someone from about as blue a state as there is, Massachusetts, there are a wide variety of views held by Democrats. On the national level, as I've stated, the adoption of a health care plan devised by the not even slightly leftist Heritage Foundation demonstrates the party's move to the right, and the lack of any meaningful attempt to even bring a single player plan to a vote shows the fecklessness of the leftmost faction. But both sides still exist within the party, from Bernie Sanders and AOC to the Blue Dogs.

When I took up with the Republicans I said I was pro-union and pro-environment and nobody blinked.
And yet, that party has done severe damage to both unions and the environment. Go figure.

BTW, I'm firmly pro-union as well, and wish that Democrats would again embrace unionization and firmly commit to fighting vehemently for working folks. If we ever hope to again have a prosperous and even functional economy, bolstering the middle class is a necessity, and unions are critical for that. But Democrats have done little to stop the GOP war on unions and unionization, and that's just another example of the fecklessness of the more left-leaning faction of the party.

I was elected a district delegate a few times and got to two state conventions and was briefly on the state central committee. They (the pre-Trump party) were much more open to diversity of person and opinion than the 1980’s Democrats ever were. I left after Trump got nominated, and I was not alone. I organized for the futile Evan McMullen campaign and then discovered the American Solidarity Party.

Having left both parties I think there needs to be something for the rest of us. I do see lots of people fed up with their own party but feel stuck because they are so afraid of the other party winning. They often say to themselves that they will vote for their guys while plugging their noses just one last time and then dump them and build a new an honorable party after that.
Yeah, that's the problem with a two-party system. I have no problem with any and all serious attempts to form a third (or fourth or fifth) party, and envy all those countries that have a wide variety of political parties. Still, independents exist, and they are a significant voting bloc. Hopefully, that will only increase over time.

But, as it stands, while I may not agree with everything the Democratic party does or has done, I simply cannot find any policies coming from the Republican party that align with my principles or my interests, so joining that party is pretty much a non-starter for me. But your mileage may vary, of course.

-- A2SG, and as for Trump specifically, well...no. Just no.
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Our true identity

Yes, this is exactly why I posted this under creation & evolution. Many people are confused by their identities and they don't know who they are. They need to know they true identity that their Maker gave them.

Some argue this does not belong here, and it should be under Christian only subforum, but I wanted all to see the truth, in hope it leads someone to Christ. And yes, many don't believe this, but people need to hear truth about God, while there still is time. We need to tell people God created them and not compromise on this.

My OP was not an attack on transgender people. We are all sinners, and we all need a Saviour, Lord Jesus Christ, transgender and non-transgender. No one has any advantage, we all need God's mercy. I desire all come to God and be saved, this includes transgender.
None of us non-believers is interested in your preaching. Not now. Not ever.
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How much of the Bible do you guys know?

Being rich doesn't mean that he didn't serve the Lord Jesus Christ.
Its my opinion that you cant serve both the Lord and money. Jesus teaches us to flee from wealth when he said not to store wealth on earth. The apostle Paul teaches Timothy to flee from desiring wealth and to be content with life's necessities. If wealth is ok why shouldn't I desire it? The scripture says that God withholds no good thing. Why not make us all rich if its good? Why did James say the poor are rich in faith? I follow Jesus and his apostles. They were not rich.
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Marco Rubio Standing ovation from our European allies

Reported the same thing here in local news about it. Rubio just talked more nicely, but that's it and nothing has really changed and EU will continue to distance itself from the USA. The 40 (I think it was 40) nation trade deal Canada is working on is just one more sign of this.
If the EU distances themselves from the USA, then I hope that the EU can defend themselves against Russia and China.
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Why do we do things not written in the Bible?

Nowhere within these verses does it say, "Peter and the Apostles began to babble or run across the back of chairs. Where does it state, "they began to gyrate fall down on the floor and scream GLORAAAAY! The book doesn't state this anywhere. The verses state understanding not confusion.

Red herring fallacy, strawman fallacy and non-sequitur. I am not a Pentecostal or Charismatic Christian, I am an Orthodox Christian; the practices you discuss do not constitute, according to leading Orthodox figures, what the spiritual gifts look like, and indeed the Orthodox Church finds the kind of thing you are discussing (I believe you’re referring to the “Toronto Blessing” but it could be any number of Charismatic practices) to be … very troubling (see Orthodoxy and The Religion of the Future by Fr. Seraphim Rose, which also addressed the issues posed by popular interest in Buddhism, Hinduism and non-Christian religions or “spiritualities” as people liked to call them from the Orient, religious syncretism, and warned of the dangers of UFO cults, among other things, and was written two decades before the tragedy involving the Heaven’s Gate cult; for that matter also Orthodox and Heterodoxy, Second Edition, by Archpriest Michael S. Damick explores in detail in a tone much less polemical than the controversial first edition the difference between Orthodoxy and most other religious perspectives both within Christianity and outside of Christianity).

Thus your post has the interesting attribute in that it does not respond to any point I actually made in the post; rather it constitutes an anti-Charismatic/Pentecostal tract, and the fact you fired it off at me is … concerning, because it suggests you looked at my post, saw the word “Pentecost” and my remarks about the deity of God the Holy Spirit and then went, hmm, this man is a Pentecostal, and so dispatched an anti-Charismatic tract in my direction, which is … ridiculous, since I’ve never advocated for that particular form of Christianity, which you would know had you been paying attention to my posts.

In particular, nothing I said in my last reply to you has anything whatsoever to do with Charismatic practices, instead being focused precisely on the issue of the time of day when the Spirit descended on the disciples on Pentecost according to Acts chapter 2.

Also, did you write that tract yourself? If not, please provide a URL to the source where you found that material.
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BBC: Student death puts French far-left under pressure

But obviously the Overton window is a little different in Europe (evidenced by the fact that they refer to Macron as "Centre-right"), so if that's their baseline, then perhaps that's why they would refer to anyone to the right of Macron as "hard right"
That would be because his party *is* center/center-right. The parties to their right are The Republicans (center-right/right) and the LePen party (nationalist/right-wing populism).
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Salvation in a moment versus moment-by-moment motives

Based on Isaiah 45:22, this morning, at 6, I prayed the following. "Lord Jesus, I turn to You to be saved, for you are God and there is no other." I understand since that moment that I am saved.

The OCD experts note that people with Religious OCD may keep "jumping for the carrot" by giving their lives to Christ again and again. But, they say, these "jumps" only lead to fleeting assurance and they strengthen the next wave of doubt. Based on expert statements and experience, I can say that my current assurance of salvation will be fleeting and that the next wave of doubt will be strong. But I think I can now say to my OCD, "Ephesians 1:13." And to my realization that my faith wavers, I can say "James 1:17."
Bob, you are looking in the wrong place for assurance. Assurance will not be found in "You." Focus you mind on what Jesus did for you when He died on the cross. I think of the nails that were used to nail Jesus to the cross as my sins, and then His blood covered them. Just like the 3rd verse of my favorite hymn, "It Is Well with My Soul" which is My sin oh the bliss of this glorious thought, my sin not in part but tho whole is nailed to the cross and I bear them no more Praise the Lord Praise the Lord Oh my soul.

Think of when He was nailed to that cross that your sins were nailed there also, and His blood covered them so that God does not see them anymore. God says that He will remember our sins no more.

Romans 10:13 says "Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." I have heard preachers use that verse many times at the close of a sermon and then ask people to say a prayer to be saved. For many years I was confused about how just saying a prayer "in Jesus' name" would save someone. I did that many times thinking I would be saved, but the assurance would last for a day or 2, then I would be saying the prayer again hoping to find an assurance that would give me a lasting peace, but that never happened.

I was living almost daily in a state of fear & misery, thinking that I would never know that God had heard my prayer and had truly saved me. There was a missing link, and I was desperate to find it, but regardless of all my trying to believe & struggling with doubt, fear, & misery that missing link was not to be found anytime soon.

Bob, after years of struggling, I found that missing link when, out of a sense of hopeless desperation, I gave up on all my "trying to believe," and asked God to show me how to believe. Then I opened a bible to the Gospel of John and started reading from chapter 1 verse 1. Bob, that was the first time I had ever opened a bible outside of church, and when God saw that I had turned from "myself" to Him through His word, His Holy Spirit stepped in and became that "missing link."

By the time I had read through chapter 6, I had my answer, which was that I needed to look at the finished work of Jesus on the cross as the means of my salvation, and not to look at me. In other words, I needed to focus my trust or my confidence in or to rely on what Jesus had already done for me on the cross. He convinced me to trust in the cross, not in my prayer, or in anything that "I" had done or could do. Just simply rely on the finished work of Jesus on the cross, and leave it up to Him.

Back in Romans 10: 13 where it says that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved, I found that if I looked at the next verse, verse 14, it says "And how shall they call on Him in whom thy have not believed, and how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard, and how shall they hear without a preacher."

That says to me that before we call on His name we must first "believe" or trust or put our confidence in His finished work on the cross where he paid the penalty for our sin, in full, which also suggests two possible outcomes of someone calling on the name of the Lord for salvation:

1. Someone hears a preacher say that if they will call on the name of the Lord to be saved that they will not spend eternity in hell, and of course no one wants to go to hell so they say a prayer that the preacher tells them to say so they will be "saved." But, the are trusting the preacher & in their prayer; not in the finished work of Jesus on the cross, and therefore they are not saved.

2. Someone hears the truth of the Gospel and when they hear that they are sinners who need to be forgiven, and hear that Jesus died on the cross to pay for their sin, and then they believe that message, and they want Jesus to forgive their sin, then that person calls out to the Lord for salvation. That person is trusting in the gospel message; not in their prayer or in the preacher. Actually, I think that a person is born again & saved the moment he/she "believes" the gospel message, and in their heart they want the forgiveness that only Jesus can give them, and that the act of calling out to the Lord is evidence of that person "believing." Otherwise why would someone call out to the Lord for salvation unless he/she "believed" the Lord would save them except for the person who "believes" the preacher and trusts in their prayer. I'm sure some posters here will attack me for saying that, but it's my thinking on the matter.

Bob, I said all of that to emphasize that you should focus your "believing" on Jesus' work on the cross, and not on yourself.

Hope this makes sense to you.

Regards,

John
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THE SPECTACULAR BLESSING OF AUTHENTIC SPEAKING IN TONGUES

There's a "diversities of tongues" II Cor 12:28). Purposes for speaking in tongues includes:

-Personal prayer language - Speaking to/with God (I Cor 14:4)
-Intercessory prayer language - Praying for others in the Spirit (Rom 8:26-27).
-Warfare language - Tongues directly aimed at demonic strongholds (Eph 6:18-19)
-Prophetic language - Addressing the whole church/preferably with interpretation - (I Cor 12:10; 14:5, 26)
-Singing in the Spirit - Singing in tongues/worship activity (I Cor 14:14-15)
-Praise language - Magnifying the Lord in worship tongues (Acts 2:4-11, 10)
(Saint Steven, a CF poster, gave permission to use his basic list).
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