weary2025 said:

I don't partner with lawlessness. Im not the one breaking immigration laws of other nations

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Why are you separating immigration laws from other laws? The Apostles were immigrants in the nations they traveled to. Those that came after the Apostles were immigrants in many places that they traveled to. None obeyed all of the laws many nations where they went.

In the US, an immigrant that entered illegally but applied for refuge is no longer an illegal immigrant. They are protected by law but many people continue to call them illegal immigrants.

DaisyDay said:

It's already in a gloppy puddle.

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Do you see any love here? There is no true love in politics. Its hate masquerading as love

Say it aint so said:

Not at all. I am talking about the hypocrisy of those like minded entities you named as in the Falwell, Dobson, Graham types. I realize some of them are not around to take exception to the Trump family foray into gambling, but those who do openly support him are absolutely silent come the push for more unregulated gambling into the US. It appears for them power trumps aspects of morality for them.

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I dunno, Franklin Graham been a lot quieter this trip around.

Finland does not exist according to some.

Supposedly it is a fictional country, a joint cover up by the Japanese and Soviet governments to facilitate secret fishing operations in what is supposedly open water, with fish being disguised as Nokia products.

Fantine said:

Shutting down the NIH and CDC end medical research projects that could have resulted in millions of lives being saved. Tell your misconception about EPA and climate control are 'damaging our economy' to the people of NY waiting for 2 feet of snow coming in, or the residents of the west coast as far east as northern Oklahoma who are dealing with catastrophic forest fires due to droughts. Tell theses misconceptions to the Africans and Asians who have survived the gutting of USAID and who are probably burying their children who died of malnutrition and disease preventable through vaccines.

And since Biden's economy was far more robust in every category (despite the outright lies being promoted by the administration) Trump's firing of federal employees obviously hasn't helped the economy.

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All administrations have different ideas of what should be funded. Human fetal-tissue research, using tissue from abortions, is immoral. Research based on DEI was much more political than scientific. LGBTQ related research was also more political than scientific. They decided so much COVID research was not necessary because the pandemic is over. Other programs were decided upon on an individual basis, some could be better funded by states, others had risky research. The bottom line was to focus on research aimed at improving the overall health of the American people. If Nancy Pelosi or the Obamas or Clintons or Bill Gates believe worthwhile funding of research was cut they have the right to donate to the cause of their choice.

Biden and the Democrats in Congress promoted economic policies that boosted the prices, inflation rose to 11%, don't you remember the price of eggs? Wages were not keeping up with inflation. Trump has reversed that.

weary2025 said:

Democrats used that word. I just echoed their rhetoric

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Did you really need to? Did you see that rhetoric here? From us?

SabbathBlessings said:

We went through this and it’s not the same timeline.

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We went through it indeed. All of what she said was incorrect. God spared their livestock before they went into the wilderness. God never said they couldn't eat meat.

SabbathBlessings said:

Repeating the same argument is not going to change anyones mind.

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Posting Scriptures, instead of Ellen White's contradictory statements is the purpose of this thread.

Whether you change your mind is up to you. The thread is not just for you. But if you keep responding, I will keep posting Scripture:

Valletta said:

The Bible disagrees with your conclusion. 1 Peter 3:20-21 tells us that Baptism saves. We are saved through Baptism and continue to be saved.

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You should not base a doctrine on a single proof text. We can't exclude all other texts on the subject.

Salvation by Faith in Christ

Gospel of John 3:16
“Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

Gospel of John 5:24
The one who hears and believes “has passed from death unto life.”

Gospel of John 6:47
“He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.”

Gospel of John 11:25–26
“Whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die.”

Salvation by Grace Through Faith

Epistle to the Ephesians 2:8–9
“By grace are ye saved through faith… not of works.”

Epistle to Titus 3:5
“Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us.”

Second Epistle to Timothy 1:9
God “saved us… not according to our works.”

Justification by Faith

Epistle to the Romans 3:28
“A man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”

Epistle to the Romans 5:1
“Being justified by faith, we have peace with God.”

Epistle to the Galatians 2:16
“A man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ.”

Salvation Through Calling on the Lord

Epistle to the Romans 10:9–10
Confess with your mouth and believe in your heart — “you shall be saved.”

Epistle to the Romans 10:13
“Whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Acts of the Apostles 16:30–31
“Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.”

Forgiveness Through Christ’s Blood

Epistle to the Ephesians 1:7
“In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.”

First Epistle of John 1:7
“The blood of Jesus Christ… cleanses us from all sin.”

First Epistle of John 5:11–12
“He that hath the Son hath life.”

Valletta said:

I answered this in #6. It is God who saves us through the sacrament of Baptism. The water does not, water is a sign of the sacrament. God sometimes uses objects, for example, Jesus used spittle, spat into the clay and put it on the blind man's eyes. Then the man washed in the water. This points toward Baptism. It was not the water that healed the blind man, it was Jesus. Water is the normal sign of the sacrament, there is also Baptism by desire such as in Luke 23:39-43

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The difficulty with "sacramental grace" (the idea that the act itself conveys salvation) is the doctrine of Justification by Faith.

In Romans 4:9–11, Paul argues that Abraham was declared righteous before he was circumcised. Circumcision was a "seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised."

In Luke 23:43, Jesus assures the thief of paradise despite the absence of baptism or the Eucharist. This suggests that while sacraments are good, they are not strictly necessary for salvation if faith is present.

Traditional orthodoxy leans heavily on ex opere operato (from the work performed), suggesting the sacrament works by its own power. However, Scripture emphasizes the internal state of the believer:

1 Peter 3:21: While Peter mentions baptism saving us, he immediately clarifies: "...not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God." The "saving" power is linked to the appeal to God, not the water itself.
1 Corinthians 11:27–29: Paul warns that partaking in the Lord’s Supper in an "unworthy manner" brings judgment. If the bread and wine had inherent salvific power regardless of the heart, the spiritual state of the recipient would be secondary to the physical act.

Acknowledging the critique does not mean dismissing these acts as unimportant but their true biblical power lies in their role as visible words—vivid symbols of a spiritual reality that has already occurred.

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These practices are most beautiful when viewed as a public seal of an internal reality. By grace, the believer has already been washed; by grace, the believer is already sustained by the life of Christ. The act as a "means of grace" not by creating salvation, but by nourishing the faith of the person who has already been redeemed and making a public profession of their faith.

Apple Sky said:

Better still can you prove me wrong.

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There you go. Address my post instead of ignoring it.

Hentenza said:

I have already done that. I post one every day from the very real NOAA Goes satellite that takes the pictures for weather predicting used by virtually every weather predicting agency in the world. If weather predicting is happening around the world and the data from the NOAA Goes satellite is used to predict the weather then the pictures are real pictures used to predict the weather by virtually all weather predicting agencies around the world. Therefore the pictures are real.

Prove me wrong.

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Larniavc said:

This kind of horror is simply testing what Trump supporters will put up with. If he can deport this person he can deport ANYONE. It's to see if people will excuse this (who would?) That's the plan.

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For us conservatives, the worse it gets, the less of us will vote or vote minor parties. We know our nation is doomed either way.

I-9 is tyranny if a commie socialist Muslim immigrant mayor enforces it.

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A legislator’s chief of staff was arrested in Juneau on Friday on federal charges of sex trafficking and child exploitation, enticement and coercion and creating child sexual abuse material.

Craig Scott Valdez, 36, was chief of staff to Sutton Republican Sen. George Rauscher since November, and worked in Rauscher’s office since 2021, according to a government staffing website Legistorm. Rauscher was not immediately available for comment Friday.

Valdez also served as the chair of the Anchorage Young Republicans since January 2025, according to the organization’s social media posts. [He has been removed]

Documents say the girl’s sibling alerted their mother, who used a tracking app and drove to his home and intervened, and called the Anchorage Police Department. Court documents say the mother “entered the residence, struck Valdez once in the face, and recovered the child who exhibited signs of extreme drug or alcohol intoxication and had difficulty walking and maintaining consciousness.”

[Yay Mom!]

Federal agents said they believe this was not the first time Valdez exploited the girl, and believe he victimized others.

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The chair of the Anchorage Young Republicans.

I'll bet he was.

ThatRobGuy said:

Depends on the kind of units... and the current conditions of the "host city"

The NIMBYism that occurs in that realm typically centers around the idea that if heavily subsidized housing pops up a few blocks away, it will introduce some negative elements (that typically go hand-in-hand with subsidized housing)

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So just a lot of ignorant assumptions and prejudice against poor people.

ThatRobGuy said:

It sounds like you're under the assumption that the bulk of AI is just the end-user/user-facing AI that people recreationally use online. (like people hopping on to ChatGPT and asking questions, asking it to make a funny picture, or self-driving Waymo cars)

I think most people are probably ignorant of how much they use (and enjoy) benefits of AI without even realizing they're using it.

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I've seen the "features" the add to apps I use (like Zoom) add AI "features". Never touched one. I always skip past the AI summary on my google searches. (Slow and don't trust. I want a link, silly search engine.)

ThatRobGuy said:

It's heavily baked into a lot of services and business verticals (that most people enjoy, but don't even realize is using AI)

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"Business verticals". LOL. Sounds like powerpoint blather.

ThatRobGuy said:

Americans Use AI in Everyday Products Without Realizing It

Nearly all Americans use AI products, but many don't realize it. Most say the government and businesses are equally liable for reducing its potential harms.

news.gallup.com

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Read that article. Don't use em.

Rescued One said:

Conversion to Christ is a work of God Who is all powerful. No one can stop God's intent.

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Indeed. And while I may be wrong, I do believe the Bible clearly calls us to demonstrate our faith through acts of charity and kindness so that people turn to God. So, I think we do have a part in the conversion of people to Christ. Honestly, if you look at history, you won't find a single group of Christians who God converted all by Himself. They were led to God by other Christians.

The Liturgist said:

Ah, lovely, nothing like John MacArthur engaging in grossly offensive and untrue commentary regarding the sacramental theology of traditional churches.

Specifically, the idea that baptismal regeneration comes from pagan mystery religions and not, gee, I don’t know, John 3:5, Mark 16:10-16, Matthew 28:19, and Acts entire, which the early church fathers themselves write is the source of the doctrine, is not only shockingly offensive to Lutherans, Anglicans, Roman Catholics, and the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox (particularly the persecuted Orthodox Christians of Syria, Egypt, Armenia, Georgia, Turkey, Iraq, the Holy Land, Ethiopia, Eritrea and Tajikistan), but also simply disregards and glosses over the rationale for baptism explained by the Early Church Fathers, essentially accusing them of lying.

Speaking of persecuted Christians, regarding Valentines Day, St. Valentine was a martyr killed by the Pagan Romans.

Now, is displaying Cupid appropriate on St. Valentine’s Day? Certainly not. It has roughly the same propriety as Caligula erecting an idol of Zeus in the courtyard of the Temple in Jerusalem.

But, some ignorant people who regard Valentine’s Day as a secular holiday and inappropriately comingle Christian and Pagan imagery does not extend to the Scriptural and Patristic doctrine of baptismal regeneration being derived from Pagan mystery religions; this idea is a spectacular non-sequitur; on a par with saying that because the octopus has eight tentacles, humans were able to invent the transistor in the late 1940s.

I expect my friends @Ain't Zwinglian @prodromos @chevyontheriver @MarkRohfrietsch @FenderTL5 @jas3 and @ViaCrucis might have something to say pertaining this backdoor attack on Baptismal Regeneration.

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Hey lit

John 3:5, Mark 16:10-16, Matthew 28:19, these do not say what you claim. There is a baptism that saves, but not water baptism. The one the actually places a believer in Christ, the baptism with the Holy Spirit, is the one true baptism, the one that saves. It's shockingly easy to understand.

1 Corinthians 12:14 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

This "placing into" with the Holy Spirit places us in Christ Jesus, the one true Church, a spiritual Body, and also places Him, the High Priest Himself, Who has entered the heavenly sanctuary Himself on our behalf, into us by way of the Holy Spirit indwelling, the baptism that saves. In case you didn't catch that, we have no need for priests anymore because we have the High Priest Himself living in us. There is one Mediator between man and God, Jesus. That's why the curtain in the Temple tore right down the middle at the death of Jesus on the cross, the beginning of the NT.

What does a saint have that he did not receive, and if he received it, why do you boast as if he didn't? No need for the Catholic hierarchy, we never needed them. Just Jesus, that's who we need.

Dave

Oompa Loompa said:

If you call miles of new underground Hamas tunnels under Gaza as part of the plan, I guess it did work.

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The money was in relations to the nuclear treaty. If you want to bring it up, stay on topic.

Larniavc said:

How could they possibly not know about America and its treatment of indigenous people? What can America possibly offer them that they don't already have? New diseases?

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Raises eyebrows. Greenland saw Europeans arrive centuries ago. What are these new diseases of which you speak?

As to the first, just say there are reservations..,

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Veterans sue over Trump’s planned 250-foot arch, citing interference with Arlington cemetery views

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I prefer veterans who don't sue Trump.

dlamberth said:

The quality of Love that Christians find in Jesus is also found within those of other spiritual paths. It's interesting, at least to me, in the way that Divine Compassionate Love can not be limited. Myth stores as they are retold are a way of pointing us to things like the Divine experience that Christians find in Jesus. Or any other religion where God is brought to this Earth.

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Is that what the Kurukshetra War was about?

essentialsaltes said:

Miami-Dade small business owner who voted for Trump feels pain of partner’s ICE detention, immigration lawyer fees and detention costs​

It has been eight months since U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents detained Yamile Alcantu, and her partner of 20 years, Wayne DeMario, has been in a lot of pain.

“They grabbed her, put her in shackles and chains,” DeMario said, adding that after she was “kidnapped,” ICE held her at a detention center in Jacksonville and moved her to Louisiana.

“I really thought this was just going to be something more organized, but it’s obviously not,” DeMario said about Trump’s deportations. “They just blanket everybody.”

DeMario said Alcantu moved to the U.S. from Cuba 25 years ago through a Visa Lottery, a State Department program. They didn’t think her immigration status would be a problem, and he voted for Trump.

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You can't win if you don't play.

Immigration Lottery, winners announced weekly.

under grace1 said:

No one has ever entered Heaven except the one who came from Heaven, the son of man John3:13

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This Scripture was true before Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose from the dead.

After Jesus' resurrection, he led all the righteous peoples' spirits/souls to heaven. 1 Peter 4:6
These spirits/souls had been waiting in Abraham's bosom, a part of Hades, for Jesus to rise from the dead. Matthew 22:32, Luke 16:22-24

Who is Austin Tucker Martin? The 21-year-old killed after entering Mar-a-Lago with a shotgun and gas can​

Puerto Vallarta Rocked by Cartel Violence

Widespread violence, including vehicle arsons, highway blockades, and armed confrontations, erupted across Mexico’s Jalisco state on Sunday, February 22, 2026, prompting Governor Pablo Lemus to activate a statewide “Code Red” alert. The unrest, which significantly impacted the popular tourist destination of Puerto Vallarta, was a direct response by criminal groups, notably the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG), to a high-profile federal law enforcement operation in the municipality of Tapalpa that reportedly resulted in the death of CJNG leader Nemesio “El Mencho” Oseguera Cervantes.

In Puerto Vallarta, the violence led to public buses being torched downtown, reports of motorcycle pursuits, and a shootout in the Ixtapa area. As a precaution, public transportation services in the Pacific resort city ceased operations, and hotels reportedly advised guests to remain indoors.


US Embassy issues warning to Americans after ‘El Mencho’ killed

The notice from the Embassy says Americans should shelter in place in Taumalipas, particularly Reynosa, where social media activity has seen numerous reports of blockades.

“Due to ongoing security operations and related road blockages and criminal activity, U.S. citizens in the named locations should shelter in place until further notice,” the notice states.

fhansen said:

If our performance fluctuated such that that I’ve simply remained in my sins after conversion, or that I might be pretty righteous one day but commit murder, adultery, or theft the next day, then there certainly wouldn’t have been much “purifying, regeneration & renewal” going on. But if that purity now remains an option throughout the rest of my life, an option that I can exercise/express resulting in that purity growing, or not, then such purity, while dependent on our remaining in Him, certainly is inherent in a person who’s heaven-bound, and is something that can also be ignored, uncultivated, rejected, forfeited. Rom 6, for one, seems to present this option, with the gift of righteousness, holiness, sanctity ending in eternal life.

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Your phrase ""dependent on our remaining in Him"" quietly shifts the entire weight of salvation from God's finished work to human performance. But that's the very thing Titus 3 & Ephesians 1 explicitly reject.

Paul grounds salvation in God's mercy, not our ongoing stability: ""He saved us, not because of works, but by the washing of regeneration & renewal of the Holy Spirit."" That's a completed act, not a probationary status. And in Ephesians 1, Paul says the moment we heard the gospel & believed, we were sealed with the Holy Spirit > God's guarantee, not a conditional loan.

If salvation ultimately depends on us ""remaining in Him,"" then the Spirit's regeneration, renewal, justification & sealing are not guarantees at all but temporary benefits that can be forfeited. That is the opposite of Paul's argument. Scripture never builds salvation on the instability of human performance; it builds it on the unchanging work of God, who saves, justifies, seals & guarantees the inheritance of those who believe.

Studyman said:

No, that is not an accurate representation of Scriptures concerning the powers of the air (Thoughts) that come into our mind. It isn't a Sin when a thought comes into our mind.

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Jesus declared sinful thoughts as sin. It's not negotiable. Matt. 5:28

Jesus also said evil thoughts are evil, lawless and defining. Again not negotiable

People are easily led into the deceptions of excuses and letting themselves off the hook rather than confronting the reality that evil is in fact present within us. Romans 7:21

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First, we need to discern them to know if they are from above or below. We have weapons and Armor from God to make said discernment, and then to use against such thoughts that are ungodly or sinful, so that we are not carried away by them.

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The fact that you are engaging in battle or resistance means it's within to contend with

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James 1: 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is "drawn away" of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

In fact, according to the Holy Scriptures, our entire Battle is against spiritual wickedness in high places, which I believe to be sinful thoughts that come into our mind.

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Accurate conclusion in bold

Studyman said:

Which aligns perfectly with the Scriptures. The Kingdom of God dwells within me, the Temple of God is my mind, and the people of my Kingdom are thoughts. Godly thoughts are preserved, fed, nourished and allowed to prosper in my kingdom. Wicked thoughts are to be cast out, utterly destroyed, man, woman, cattle and every last part of the thought so that the wicked thought doesn't rule or influence any of the righteous thoughts in the Kingdom God gave me.

In this way I am led by Godly thoughts, which is the purpose of the Gospel of Christ in the first place, in my view.

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If Godly thoughts were the only thoughts in play you'd have a point, but that's never the case