Tropical Wilds said:

So a minute ago, you think I thought the American flag is always racist, all the time, and you're upset that I didn't account for context. Now, you ask about the OK symbol and if it's Ok, to do, I say it depends on context, and you're upset because apparently context doesn't matter and to say it does proves your point. Honestly, I think you're arguing to argue because you want to be mad, even if you don't know exactly what you're mad about.

Yes, I'm aware that black people use the okay sign. I'm aware they also use a word that I'd never use as a term of familiarity and endearment. However, just because they choose to use it in scenarios they know it to be appropriate contextually and in scenarios they know it to be appropriate for doesn't mean I'm going to do it. When I do it, it could mean something entirely different and since I want to make sure the line between me and racists is super, super clear, I'm not going to do it. Why? Because when people like me do it, it is reasonable to assume it might mean something entirely different.

Context matters, my dude.

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The context of the okay sign did not matter five years ago. It always meant "okay" in every context.

The point of this discussion tangent is that liberals let racists box their communication with the slightest of effort.

tampasteve said:

At the risk of going on a tangent, how do you suppose that the Nephilim material/traits/whatever pass from the Ark to offspring? Logic would say that in that scenario it would have to be genetic. I suppose that perhaps your belief is that the Nephilim are not demons/demonic, if that is the case then what are they, in your view? The only scripture that speaks of them pre-flood heavily implies that they are some sort of hybrid, which must be passed down somehow, in your theory. If there is no angelic/demonic/whatever DNA then it would just be normal human DNA passing from the inhabitants of the Ark.

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I generally lean towards KJV:

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

No mention of "The Nephilim".

when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men
Resonable meaning to me Christian men - mingling with worldy woman.

Demons having children with humans doesnt make sense to me...I don't know of any examples where demons had a physical body.

Larniavc said:

Have you read the article? It makes lots of claims but would point me to the part that has the hard evidence?

‘We all know” and ‘polls show’ obviously don’t count.

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Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Valletta said:

The framers of the Constitution never imagined that a president would break the border laws and allow 20 million people to cross our borders in one term.

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Never happened.

rjs330 said:

But I do absolutely think illegals should be eliminated from the census. They aren't supposed to be here to be counted.

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Good thing they were never able to make it over Trump's wall.

RDKirk said:

You can't get away from proving my point.

You know that black people also traditionally use the "okay" sign, right?

If it's suddenly not okay to use the okay symbol to black people, that proves my point.

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So a minute ago, you think I thought the American flag is always racist, all the time, and you're upset that I didn't account for context. Now, you ask about the OK symbol and if it's Ok, to do, I say it depends on context, and you're upset because apparently context doesn't matter and to say it does proves your point. Honestly, I think you're arguing to argue because you want to be mad, even if you don't know exactly what you're mad about.

Yes, I'm aware that black people use the okay sign. I'm aware they also use a word that I'd never use as a term of familiarity and endearment. However, just because they choose to use it in scenarios they know it to be appropriate contextually and in scenarios they know it to be appropriate for doesn't mean I'm going to do it. When I do it, it could mean something entirely different and since I want to make sure the line between me and racists is super, super clear, I'm not going to do it. Why? Because when people like me do it, it is reasonable to assume it might mean something entirely different.

Context matters, my dude.

Valletta said:

Certainly no one should trust numbers from an administration that claimed the border was safe, secure, and closed.

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Which is what Trump said in 2019. But it didn't happen. However, illegal immigration was markedly lower at the end of Biden's term.

Pommer said:

I was under the impression that the 2020 census was carried out under President Donald J Trump; did Biden use the Obama Time-machine to affect the results?

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Remember the MAGA mantra:
Take Trump seriously, NOT LITERALLY.

Or what he sometimes calls "Truthful Hyperbole."

Always in His Presence said:

Trying to understand how that relates to my question

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You assume it was the Democrats EARNING that win as opposed to Republican policies being really unpopular with independents.

RDKirk said:

The presence of the Guardian Angels only helped temporarily, until criminals figured how to get around them.

The criminals know this is temporary.

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I agree

It's not that complex. Here's the argument:

Someone accused Cook of fraud.
Cook has an important position of trust in our government.
Someone in an important position in our government should not even be suspected of fraud.

You might call Trump a hypocrite in all this, but he could argue thusly:

1. Trump was convicted of fraud, not suspected.
2. Trump does not hold as important a position as Cook holds.
3. Being a convicted felon, Trump is not "suspected"; there is no doubt about his crime.

So he's not being a hypocrite. There's a different term for that kind of thinking.

wing2000 said:

I am curious though....after 14 pages of posts, I have yet to see anyone state they have eaten a Cracker Barrel in the last few years....

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I ate at one about ... ten or fifteen years ago on vacation? I remember it being OK, but also having no desire to go back to one.

Companies change their logos all the time. Not sure why anyone cares more about Cracker Barrel's than Bank of America. But I just read they went back to the old logo, so I guess all is well in the world!

BeckyJ said:

Wrong.

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Feel free to back up your claims with actual facts.

BPPLEE said:

I saw video of the National Guard carrying side arms.
And just being there deters crime.
Officer presence is the first step in the use of force continuum because it makes a difference.
The Guardian Angels proved that just being present helps to deter crime.
It was done for a show but it will help until the NG has to leave.

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The presence of the Guardian Angels only helped temporarily, until criminals figured how to get around them.

The criminals know this is temporary.

RileyG said:

Wow. Just. Wow.

I’m speechless.

No reason? Really? REALLY?

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Really.

RileyG said:

He didn’t run again for a reason. His health was the reason.

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Polls were the reason.

essentialsaltes said:

FEMA employees call for reforms to restore disaster response capacity ahead of Katrina anniversary​

The “Katrina Declaration and Petition to Congress” calls out reductions to CERT, the National Fire Academy and hazard grants as weakening national disaster readiness​

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wing2000 said:

FEMA Suspends Staff Who Signed a Letter Criticizing Trump​

[Of the 182 FEMA employees who signed the letter to Congress, 36 attached their names, while the rest withheld their identities for fear of retaliation.]

Since January 2025, FEMA has been under the leadership of individuals lacking legal qualifications, Senate approval, and the demonstrated background required of a FEMA Administrator. Decisions made by FEMA’s Senior Official Performing the Duties of the Administrator (SOPDA) David Richardson, Former SOPDA Cameron Hamilton, and Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem erode the capacity of FEMA and our State, Local, Tribal, and Territorial (SLTT) partners, hinder the swift execution of our mission, and dismiss experienced staff whose institutional knowledge and relationships are vital to ensure effective emergency management.

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Tropical Wilds said:

Again, it depends. If I say "please file these papers" and my coworker flashes me the "Ok" symbol, life goes on and all is well. If I am protesting outside of an area housing black persons and I'm saying incendiary things while flashing the "Ok" symbol, no, it is not. If I'm Since I know that the "Ok" symbol is used as a dog whistle to racist intimidation, I'm certainly not going to flash it to a person of color or Muslim person when they say something I agree with.

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You can't get away from proving my point.

You know that black people also traditionally use the "okay" sign, right?

If it's suddenly not okay to use the okay symbol to black people, that proves my point.

RDKirk said:

There are actually black people around me saying that.

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I never, ever in my entire life, with all the people of color I've met, in all the places I have been, have ever once met a person who said simply wearing a cross is racist. Given the role of the black church in America and the fact that a significantly higher percentage black Americans identify as some version of Christian vs white people (70% of black Americans identify as some form of Christian vs only 56% of white Americans as of 2023 and black conversion to Christianity is increasing while white American is in a freefall), it defies logic and common sense to make that as a claim.

Something tells me that like what you're doing with me and the American flag where you've invented a narrative for me, one person said something completely different and you just developed a different narrative and ran with it as the standard for all. I suspect it was more something like wearing the iron cross or the Celtic cross or blood cross makes people question the motivations of the wearer, not all crosses.

Postvieww said:

In Trump’s first term he also decided not to prosecute Hilary even though the facts warranted it

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Trump's DOJ decided they didn't. "No reasonable prosecutor" would attempt to try the case.

But under Trump 2.0, we have plenty of unreasonable prosecutors. Maybe we'll see how many times Pirro can get a grand jury to no true bill the case.

All we need now is have every city in America occupied by the military, and then we'll all be safe. Nothing safer than a literal police state.

-CryptoLutheran

rambot said:

It's great to rag on democrats right now....with all the power they have.


How popular is Trump doing now, by rhe way? Are his policies being people into the republican fold?

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Trying to understand how that relates to my question

RDKirk said:

So, the "okay" sign is okay to use.

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Again, it depends. If I say "please file these papers" and my coworker flashes me the "Ok" symbol, life goes on and all is well. If I am protesting outside of an area housing black persons and I'm saying incendiary things while flashing the "Ok" symbol, no, it is not. Since I know that the "Ok" symbol is used as a dog whistle to racist intimidation, I'm certainly not going to flash it to a person of color or Muslim person when they say something I agree with. It may convey something I don't want to convey and is, understandably, something they'd probably be a bit alert to.

I get the whole "Ok" thing started as a joke/meme, but it has been used enough publicly in a way to convey real racism that I'm certainly going to think twice about how I use it and will notice it if it's used in a context that could convey a racist viewpoint.

Like, I'm at Disney and they aren't allowed to point when giving directions, so when they tell me that "fantasyland is over there" pointing with an open hand, thumb down, over their head, I'm going to know they're just pointing. A group of people do it standing for a photo op in front of an American flag doing it? I'm not going to think they're all pointing at something off-camera.

Always in His Presence said:

so's law is now applicable?

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"So's law" is only an excuse to avoid a good question if you have no answer for it.