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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

No I am pointing out that all this outcry of credibility and credentials is itself a big fallacy. Because in going about discrediting those who have actually done the tests your claiming to be expert enough to do that in the first place. Without applying the same scrutiny and level of proving expertise to yourselves.

This alone is enough to say its highly suspect and biased and cannot be trusted. We would expect at least as high a scutiny and investigation into the back grounds and question all qualifications of those making these complaints. But no one has. Its just assumed that they all pass the test and have the expertise to be making such ad hominems that relegate the researchers as whackos.

Grossly inconsistent and biased.
This is pure comedy while you rile against the 'credibility and credentials' fallacy used to discredit your so called experts, it's perfectly OK to use against individuals in this thread. I can use the same idiotic line by claiming since you have no experience, qualifications or credentials you are in no position to judge Karoyl and co. as being experts or even novices.

All that is required is the ability to read, understand and do basic research which reveals your so called called expects are not expects at metrology coding let alone the development of software which is going to overturn existing software.
You are the only person participating in this thread that does not understand this.

Yes thats the mentality of cynnics. They double down on the trash talk lol.

You still can't answer a simple question. Did the Naqada people use some sort of lathe in making these precision or exceptional precision compared to other vases.

Forget about all the semantics of software. The guage metrology without the software shows very good circularity. The Polyworks shows good cencentricity.

We can quibble about how precise this is. But theres a certain level of precision or tolerance that indicates lathing or not.

So the question is basic and simple. Was a lathe used or not. In fact was even a pretty good lathe used. What about a reasonable lathe. Or a basic lathe.

Was a lathe at all used or are the vases hand made with chisels, pounders and rubbing and no lathe at all. Thats the first step. Whether you think a lathe was used. Its a simple question you have now avoided three times for some reason.
The more you ask the question which has been answered numerous times the more ridiculous you look.
If you are so concerned in being labelled an idiot stop turning it into a self fulfilled prophesy by asking the same question over and over again.
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Trump sends troops to the 'warzone' of Portland...

Because it's already happened to people in Chicago.ICE took America's and possible illegals out of their apartment in the middle of the night. And made them wait Americans and children wait. Until ICE was done. And I seen some of the Portland Oregon. And there was no warzone going on.
Yes this is what happens when you have and support sanctuary cities. When you allow illegals in there are bad illegals that come too. Then you have to sort them out. Which takes time during an operation like this.

People in Chicago VOTED and choose to be a sanctuary city. You have to accept the consequences of such actions.
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Can man, without the light of faith, by his reason alone, know that God exists?

St. Paul writes to the Hebrews (11:6): “He that cometh to God must believe that He is, and is a Rewarder to them that seek Him”. It is asked by many: “Can man, without the light of faith, by his reason alone, know that God exists?” He certainly can. For the 18th Psalm says: “The heavens show forth the glory of God”; and St. Paul writes to the Romans (1:20): “The invisible things of Him (of God) from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; His eternal power also and Divinity”. Hence the Vatican Council, in 1870, defined that it is possible for the existence of God, the Beginning and the End of all things, to be gathered with certainty from created things, by the aid of the natural light of human reason (Sess. III, Ch. 2).

Charles Coppens, A Systematic Study of the Catholic Religion, Nineteenth, Twentieth and Twenty-First Editions (St. Louis, MO; London: B. Herder Book Company, 1917), 117.
"There is a source of the energy that formed all things" <-- This is an axiom without imagery that anyone can reason upon.

The term "Faith" would add imagery by implying trustworthiness.
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The Nobel Peace Prize went to Venezuela’s Maria Corina Machado - why not Trump? He's solved 8 wars!


Here's another Democrat who is giving President Trump credit for this peace deal.
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Don Trump Tilts at Windmills: Rescinds All Offshore Wind Energy Areas in the US; current leases up for review

Conservatives don't realize that gasoline prices would be a lot higher without the competition of hybrids and electric vehicles, and electricity generated by oil would be higher without solar.
The competition keeps prices down. Why do Republicans want a monopoly?
Gee, I can't imagine why.


-- A2SG, 'tis a conundrum, certainly.....
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Men now surpass women in church attendance, especially among Gen X, millennials: Barna

Mass immigration is a global experiment that’s splintering societies and creating bastions of crime and unrest.
But as christians that is not our concern. If we are not to construct fences to keep our neighbors out, then what is it to us if our governments tear down their own fences which have greatly profited you?

Governments are doing things to protect themselves, such as immigration. It not an experiment at all, they intend to profit off of who they move here or there.

Ethically a christian should actually ask God am i free to leave my community?

Because the answer is likely no. Your birth, education, employment all incur liabilities that have to be addressed, in time.


The average immigrant who sends money back home to feed their family is actually doing God's work, to pay off the debt of the difference in income between the two countries. (Read the book confessions of an economic hitman if you have time)

But had they had the faith to ask God to provide, He would have likely made that happen at the expense of the bad actors of their home (or future host) country, while they stay in their home country, and be a guiding light to fix it.
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How a man survived 2 cults and lived to tell about it (book review)

Journalist Ben Appel is on a remarkable journey, one that has taken him from being a disciple to a doubter to a full-blown heretic, but not in the way you might think.

You see, he is a “heretic” today not because he no longer ascribes to the quasi-Christian doctrines he was taught in his childhood, but because he dares to dissent from the tenets of what he calls the “Church of Social Justice.”

But first, let me pause and rewind a bit, as an interesting history is at work.

In 2021, a conservative Christian friend sent me Appel’s fascinating long-form essay in Quillette, and to date, it is one of the most memorable articles I have ever read. That essay from a truly gifted writer has now taken shape more fully in an upcoming memoir to be released next month (I was honored to read a preview copy).

The memoir is called Cis White Gay: The Making of Gender Heretic, and in case anyone’s wondering why a review of a book like this by a man who writes that his same-sex attraction “made [him] feel whole” and who campaigned for the legalization of same-sex marriage (and is in one) is appearing in a theologically orthodox Evangelical publication which does not hide its moral and spiritual commitments to historic Christian sexual ethics, I’ll gladly explain. First, it’s because I admire gutsy, transparent people, even those with whom I disagree on weighty moral and anthropological issues. Second, I also believe it’s vital for Christians to enter into, learn from, and understand the stories of those whom they might assume function as an ideological monolith. It is here where the author breaks the mold.

Appel poignantly details what it was like being a gender-nonconforming boy in a conservative religious covenant community called Lamb of God, a charismatic Catholic group, in a suburb of Baltimore that was formally investigated by the Archdiocese for “cult-like practices” in the early 1990s. When he was 12, his parents split up, and he moved to a new neighborhood. Although his new community was a relatively short physical distance away, ideologically it was far away from the tight-knit, insular context of his childhood. In the new environment, he would be bullied and tormented at his public school for being effeminate, develop an obsessive-compulsive prayer life, become addicted to drugs and alcohol, and wind up in a psychiatric hospital.

Continued below.
"It's not that I'm too smart to ever get sucked into a cult. It's more that I know I am unwilling to participate in anything even resembling a group project under any circumstances."
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The Nobel Peace Prize went to Venezuela’s Maria Corina Machado - why not Trump? He's solved 8 wars!

The Guard are just people being used to stage publicity stunts while being deployed needlessly. They are good people whose time is being wasted.
Many ICE are mercenaries working for $50K signing bonuses. They have accosted and detained friends fishing in the park. They racially profile. They zip tie children and toddlers. They beat up Senators who ask questions. They arrest citizens who accompany terrified immigrants to court.
They secretly monitor the police to get to traffic stops.
At best most are arrogant bullies. At worst vicious sadists.
Please note there are qualifiers in my narrative. My observations are from real life stories of immigrants in my town and video from reputable sources.
Re: extortion. Trump humiliated Zelensky and refused to help without being promised rare earth mineral contracts worth far more than the value of aid we gave.
If half of what you said is true about ICE, then CNN, MSNBC, and all of the rest of the liberal media networks would be broadcasting and shouting this out each and every day. Also, Trump did not extort anything from Zelenskyy.
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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

You are 10% right.

This highlights a major issue in America today: when President Trump was indicted, Democrats praised the justice system while MAGA supporters called it a nuisance and unfounded. Now, with a similar indictment against AG. James, Democrats are calling it unfounded and MAGA sees it as justice.

Even more concerning is that supporters on both sides openly exhibit bias and hypocrisy without expressing any remorse for their behavior in public.
Well, to be fair, there is a difference here. There was a significant amount of evidence shown even before the trial indicating Trump's guilt, but so far as we've seen, all that the DOJ has against James is one misstatement on a single form, that wasn't even an actual loan document. Plus which, several attorneys have said this was a weak case, and that they wouldn't have taken it to trial at all. It certainly does seem as if the only reason James was indicted was because Trump demanded it.

Granted, there may be more evidence presented at trial, so I will reserve judgment for the moment, but one has to admit, the preponderance of evidence in this case doesn't seem close to equal to Trump's.

-- A2SG, guess it all comes down to Halligan's skill and experience as a prosecutor....
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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

At the least it was inappropriate. She was running for public office. Prosecutors run on saying specific people are guilty before they are even arrested? Not a good look for a person running for public office. Trump was INNOCENT until proven guilty at the time she said that.
No one disputes that, not even James. But it was a campaign promise, prosecutors run on a platform of proving guilt, which she was able to do. I'm reasonably sure she knew enough about Trump's financial dealings even at that point that she was certain she could prove it in court, so it wasn't an unfounded promise.

She made good on it, after all.

But, I'm curious, do you also decry Trump when he trumpets all over social media that James, Comey and others are guilty? He's doing the same thing, but I haven't heard a peep of disagreement. Some could call that a double standard, ya know.

-- A2SG, of course, the major difference here is that Presidents don't prosecute anyone, so there's that....
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AI understands the Sabbath and Col 2:16

Is the pattern different?
I find some of the differences very puzzling.

These foe example:

(CLV) 1Ki 6:18
The cedar for the inside of the house had an embossing of colocynth gourds and open| up blossoms. It was all cedar; there was no stone to be seen.

(CLV) 1Ki 6:23
In the innermost sanctuary he made two cherubim of oil-tree wood, each ten cubits in its rise.

(CLV) 1Ki 6:27
He bestowed »the cherubim in the midst of the inner house, so that they |spread out the wings of the cherubim. The wing of the one |touched i the one sidewall, and the wing of the second •cherub was touching i the second sidewall, +while their wings were toward the midst of the house and touching wing to wing.

(CLV) 1Ki 6:32
The two doors were of oil-tree wood; he embossed on them embossings of cherubim, palm trees and open up blossoms; and he overlaid them with gold, hammering »the gold |down on the cherubim and on the palm trees.

(CLV) 1Ki 6:34
The two doors were of fir-tree wood: The two leaves of the one door on pivots, and the two leaves of the second door on pivots.

(CLV) 1Ki 6:35
He embossed on them cherubim, palm trees and open up blossoms and overlaid them with gold evenly over the delineation

Can you show me where these instructions were given for the creation of the tabernacle?

They were not.

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Must watch video--Former Israeli diplomat calls Trump 'a man of his word' amid Israel-Hamas peace deal

Hilliary supporting Trump!? Maybe it is the end of the world. :D
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