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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

45000 year old site in China

"The results of the study, which dates the cultural layer at Shiyu to a period between 45,800 and 43,200 years ago, reveal an Initial Upper Palaeolithic (IUP) archaeological assemblage. This assemblage includes laminar technology, Levallois points, tanged and hafted projectile points, tools made with obsidian from hundreds of kilometers away, and a perforated graphite disk."

Shiyu site in northern China reveals evidence of an advanced material culture 45,000 years ago
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The Biggest Botches, Failures, And Mess-Ups Of Joe Biden’s First 12 Months In Office


It is clear to me that 2021 was a year that in which Joe Biden's failures as a president began.
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Donald Trump fraud verdict: $364 million penalty in New York civil case



NEW YORK (AP) — A New York judge imposed a $364 million penalty Friday on Donald Trump, his companies and some executives, ruling that they engaged in a yearslong scheme to dupe banks and others with financial statements that inflated the former president’s wealth.

Trump, who built his reputation as a real estate titan, also was barred from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation for three years.

However, the judge backed away from an earlier ruling that would have dissolved the former president’s companies.


Trump’s lawyers vowed to appeal.

Group featured in debunked ‘2000 Mules’ election doc admits it has no evidence


Conspiracy theory group True the Vote claims it was victimized by an “orchestrated hit” after presenting no evidence to support election fraud claims it made in the debunked “2000 Mules” documentary, which alleged the 2020 election was rigged.
In late 2023, a Fulton County Superior Court judge in Atlanta ordered the Texas-based organization to present proof of its false claims that illegal ballot stuffing occurred in 2020 and again in a 2021 runoff election in Georgia, where Democrats won both of that state’s Senate seats.
True the Vote told Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in 2021 that it possessed “a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta.”
A Raffensperger spokesman said Wednesday that True the Vote has offered bupkis, according to the Associated Press.
“Once again, True the Vote has proven itself untrustworthy and unable to provide a shred of evidence for a single one of their fairy-tale allegations,” spokesman Mike Hassinger said. “Like all the lies about Georgia’s 2020 election, their fabricated claims of ballot harvesting have been repeatedly debunked.”

Evidence of Hebrew Slavery in Egypt?

So, the Exodus. What can I say? Here's the short of it. As many of us already know, the tendency among secular historians today
is to firmly recognize that there is no evidence for the Exodus account in the Book of, Exodus. They don't see any evidence, and thus, they don't feel confident that any of it ever happened. They often simply take it as an ancient interpolation that a few Semitic groups were jumbled around and moved.

The following video, though, seems to offer up some interesting historical items for our consideration, and it applies to the possible historicity of the Exodus.

Let's watch, and feel free to comment:

Signs of Israelite Slavery in Egypt - The Exodus​

by PatternsOfEvidence​

And more trouble for Comer...

Former FBI informant charged with lying about the Bidens’ role in Ukraine business, undercutting GOP impeachment inquiry


Alexander Smirnov, 43, is facing charges in connection with lying to the FBI and creating false records. He was arrested Thursday at Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas, after his arrival in the US from overseas, and will make his initial appearance in federal court Thursday afternoon.

CNN is working to determine whether Smirnov has an attorney.

The indictment alleges that Smirnov’s story to the FBI “was a fabrication, an amalgam of otherwise unremarkable business meetings and contacts that had actually occurred but at a later date than he claimed and for the purpose of pitching Burisma on the Defendant’s services and products, not for discussing bribes to [Joe Biden] when he was in office.”

Congressional Republicans have championed Smirnov’s now-discredited allegations for roughly a year, though not by name. They fought with the FBI to obtain memos about what Smirnov told investigators and publicly released the materials over the FBI’s objections. The congressional Republicans repeatedly praised Smirnov as “credible” and put his uncorroborated claims front-and-center in their impeachment inquiry into the president.

While announcing the impeachment inquiry, then-House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said “a trusted FBI informant has alleged a bribe to the Biden family.” The FBI is now using some of the same memos that congressional Republicans released as part of their indictment against Smirnov.

“For months we have warned that Republicans have built their conspiracies about Hunter and his family on lies told by people with political agendas, not facts,” said Abbe Lowell, Hunter Biden’s lawyer, in a statement to CNN.

“We were right and the air is out of their balloon. This is just another instance of Chairmen Comer and Jordan peddling falsehoods based on dishonest, uncredible allegations and witnesses,” he added.


Comer, who was embarrassed when he was caught lying about the testimony of another witness, seems to have done it to himself, again.

Greece becomes first Orthodox Christian country to legalize same-sex marriage

Greece on Thursday became the first majority Orthodox Christian country to legalize same-sex marriage — a watershed moment for the country’s LGBTQ community, which has long fought for visibility and rights in the shadow of the highly influential Greek church.

The bill also allows same-sex couples to adopt children and confers full parental rights on married partners, though it stops short of permitting gay couples to become parents through surrogacy, a limitation that has drawn criticism from rights groups.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said on social media that Greece is “proud to become the 16th E.U. country to legislate marriage equality.” He called the step “a milestone for human rights, reflecting today’s Greece — a progressive, and democratic country, passionately committed to European values.”


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[Basil learns of Kurt's crush on Manuel]
Basil Fawlty : I should never have hired a Frenchman.
Polly : He's Greek, Mr. Fawlty.
Basil Fawlty : Greek?
Polly : Of course.
Basil Fawlty : Well, that's even worse. I mean, they invented it.
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Alexei Navalny died in prison


MOSCOW, Feb 16 (Reuters) - Russia's most prominent opposition leader Alexei Navalny collapsed and died on Friday after a walk at the "Polar Wolf" Arctic penal colony where he was serving a long jail term, the Russian prison service said. Navalny, a 47-year-old former lawyer, rose to prominence more than a decade ago with blogs on what he said was vast corruption and opulence among the "crooks and thieves" of Russia's elite.

Not a surprising news, but saddening.

Whenever Our Heart Condemns Us

“By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything. Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God; and whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him. And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us.” (1 John 3:19-24 ESV)

It is always good when we can read passages of Scripture in their full context, for so many misunderstandings and misinterpretations of the Scriptures stem from Scriptures being taught out of context. And sometimes (or often) this is being done purposefully in order to deceive naïve minds and those lacking in biblical knowledge and understanding, and in order to trap the addicted to sin who want to hear that they can continue to live like hell and yet still have heaven secured them for eternity.

And so I am going to mention a few of the previous passages in 1 John so that we have some context here. For in 1 John 1:5-10 we learn that if we walk (in conduct, in practice) in sin but while claiming that we are in fellowship with God, we are liars. And in 1 John 2:3-6 we learn that if we claim to know God but while we do not make it our practice to obey his commandments under the New Covenant, we are liars. We are not of the truth, the truth is not in us, and we do not live by (practice) the truth.

And then in 1 John 3:4-10 we read that no one who abides in Christ makes a practice of sinning. And if we keep on sinning, in practice, after making a profession of faith in Jesus Christ, and if obedience to God is not our practice, then we don’t really know the Lord. For it is he who practices righteousness who is righteous in the sight of God, not those who give lip service only to the Lord. And whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil. He is not of God, not born of God, and so not a child of God.

So, the measurement for us to go by with regard to knowing if the condemnation we are feeling in our hearts is of God or of Satan is the truth of God’s word, taught to us in the appropriate context. For the Holy Spirit convicts us of sin and all wrongdoing, but Satan also likes to condemn us and to charge us with wrongdoing when we may not be doing anything wrong at all. So we can’t trust our feelings to determine if it is Satan or the Holy Spirit condemning or convicting us. God’s word is our measurement.

But, again, the word must be taught in context. Many preachers will use the Scriptures out of context both to condemn and to exonerate, but not necessarily in truth. For some of them who are liars and deceivers will try to convict the godly who are living righteously of wrongdoing while they will exonerate the truly wicked and habitual sinners of their sinful practices by teaching them a cheapened and altered form of God’s true grace to us. And so evil is being taught as good, and good is being taught as evil.

So, if you want to know the truth, study the Scriptures in their context prayerfully seeking understanding from the Lord and not from other humans. And this is not saying that we humans cannot help one another to learn the Scriptures. We can and we should. But we are always to be those who are testing what other humans are teaching us against the fulness of the Scriptures in their appropriate context. And this way we are less likely to be deceived and led astray to following after the lies and not the truth.

So, what I am saying here is that we cannot go by a feeling of condemnation. For there are times when we will feel condemned when there is no biblical basis for that condemnation. And there will be times when we feel the freedom to keep going in the direction we are headed without any feelings of condemnation, but that doesn’t mean that what we are doing is right and just and faithful and loving and what God wants us to do. So don’t go by what your emotions tell you. Go by the Scriptures (in context).

And all throughout the book of 1 John we are taught that if sin is what we practice, and not obedience to our Lord, and not righteousness, then we are condemned. And we only receive what we ask of the Lord if we are those who are walking in obedience to our Lord’s commandments under the New Covenant, and if we are doing what pleases the Lord, and providing that what we ask is according to the will of God for our lives and that we are asking for the right reasons and in faith (James 1:5-8; James 4:1-10).

Now when this concludes that the Lord’s commandment is that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, and that if we do that we are now abiding in God and God in us, we need to read this in the whole context of 1 John. And we need to understand that belief in Jesus is not just a confession of faith, but it is walking in obedience to our Lord in holy living and no longer in sin. And loving others is agape love which prefers what God prefers – what is honest, faithful, and morally pure.

[Matthew 7:21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 1:12-13; John 6:44; Romans 2:6-8; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10,19-20; 2 Corinthians 5:15; Galatians 5:16-21; Galatians 6:7-8; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 10:23-31; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 Jn 1:5-10; 1 Jn 2:3-6; 1 Jn 3:4-10]

Trust and Obey

Words by John H. Sammis, 1887
Music by Daniel B. Towner, 1887


When we walk with the Lord
in the light of His Word,
What a glory He sheds on our way!
While we do His good will,
He abides with us still,
And with all who will trust and obey.

But we never can prove
the delights of His love
Until all on the altar we lay;
For the favor He shows,
for the joy He bestows,
Are for them who will trust and obey.

Then in fellowship sweet
We will sit at His feet.
Or we’ll walk by His side in the way.
What He says we will do,
Where He sends we will go;
Never fear, only trust and obey.

Trust and obey, for there’s no other way
To be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey.

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Take up your cross and follow me...

Jesus said take up your cross and follow me.. To me this means that Jesus is saying that we must be willing to suffer and descend into Hades (in a sense), face isolation and abandonment.
That sounds to me like a good thing.. In a Jungian sense, an encounter with the Shadow in both it's personal and collective dimension. We have to face our evil!

But there is also the idea that we are saved from that... that Jesus did it for us... So that seems like a contradiction.

But is there a way both can be true? Do we have to face that descent in order to repent and truly appreciate how much Jesus has done for us?

Why the Sabbath shines brighter

Someone had mentioned EGW and her comments on that the Sabbath shined brighter than all of the other commandments. I was listening to Walter Veith who explained in detail why (better than I do) and it makes perfect sense.

The reason the Sabbath shines brighter it is the only commandment that reveals the Author of God's law the Ten Commandments and only law that reveals the Authority and Creator over all heaven and earth. Its the commandment that contains the seal of God.

Without the power of God, we could never obey God's commandments. Removing the one commandment that reveals the Author, the Authority and the Seal the rest of the law is useless and without His power and no one could keep.

Can you imagine having a set of laws that congress passes into government and is not signed by the President, would be useless. The Sabbath is the one commandments that shows God's Authority which leads to the controversy.

Is our allegiance with the authority of God who created heaven and earth or to the one who changed times and laws Dan 7:25 we are warned about and receive their mark of their authority. No wonder there is so much attack on the Sabbath commandment as it all comes down to the authority of who we worship. Someone is trying to take the place of God Isa 14:14 who is working through an alternate system Revelation 13:4 that the whole world follows when they follow their teachings over God's.

Their authority

Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God... The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.'
—Catholic Record, September 1, 1923.

God's Authority

Psa 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet
And a light to my path.


Their authority

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

God's Authority

Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.


Their mark

Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.
—C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11, 1895.

God's Seal

Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

The Sabbath contains the three elements of a seal:
Name: Lord thy God
Title: Creator
Territory: Heaven and Earth

Eze 20:20 hallow My Sabbaths, and they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.’


Their authority

Tradition, not Scripture, is the rock on which the church of Jesus Christ is built.
—Adrien Nampon, Catholic Doctrine as Defined by the Council of Trent, p. 157

God's Authority

And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men


At the end it will come down to our worship. In vain by keeping the traditions of man or following God and obeying His commandments just the way He wrote and spoke and no one has Authority over God.

Rev 14: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Or the antidote we can obey God which is true worship.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Two of cups

I have mixed feelings about Christianity. I feel a sense of rightness about Buddhism, but I keep being drawn towards the Bible.

Anyway, I decided it was best to ask the cards about i Christianity and I got the two of cups reversed... this suggests the the end of a relationship. So it feels like I should draw a line under the Bible and stop confusing myself with it.
However, I still feel conflicted and part of me finds it hard to get rid of my Bibles.
I feel though that I must be decisive as it's impossible to serve two masters.
I'm thinking I should stop bothering people on this site too with my endless questions, I'm sure you've had enough of it by now. I've asked so many and it feels pointless and time wasting.
I feel I have to withdraw from here even though you are all lovely. Best wishes dear friends. ♥️

Hello Friends

Hello friends! How are you?
How are you this day?
What’s doing in your life?
What have you to say?

Do you have a prayer
Or a praise on your lips?
Is all going well or
Are things now amiss?

Are you of good fortune
Or desperate for help?
Will you now be silent
Or will you now tell?

Are tears now your practice
Or smiles on your face?
Can you get about or
Are you slow at pace?

You need a good word?
Or are words not enough?
Do you share emotions?
Or do them you stuff?

My friend, He’s our helper,
He loved us so much,
That He died on Calv’ry
For our sins, and such.

He gave up His life,
Gave it for you and me,
That from our sins’ practice
We would now be free.

He rose from the grave
To give life to us now
If we would before Him,
Before Him would bow.

This life is now free
Free from sin, self, and wane.
If we will surrender
to Jesus, we’ll gain.

He’ll fill us with joy
And His peace by our side,
If we bow before him
And give up our pride.

And He will give purpose
And meaning to life,
And fill us with peace
When in life we do strive.

There’s nothing like
Serving our Lord, by His side,
And doing His will
And in Him we abide.

He’s there for us now
Through life’s sorrow and pain,
To comfort and lead us
So we will not wane.

So, trust the Lord Jesus
With all of your life,
And yield not to worry,
Give up not to strife.

Embrace Him, obey Him,
For He truly cares
About you and all that
In life you do bear.

Walk with Him, go with Him
Wherever He leads,
And follow Him daily,
And on His word feed.

And He will supply you
With all that you need,
So you can continue
On Him to now feed.

An Original Work / February 15, 2024

"Environmentalist" Group calls English Countryside "racist and colonial"


The modern West especially the "progressive" west (read regressive) has long irk me to no end. The reason; blatant racism masked as social justice. Their primary target white people and culture. I hate racism in ALL its permutations, variations & forms. No people on earth should be subjected to prejudice for their genetic make up or their collective culture. Yet the side that champions anti-racism is the side that commits some of the most racist acts I have the displeasure read about. This atmosphere of intolerance to anything perceived as "white" is cultivated by the left. There is no argument about this. Wokeness is a leftist ideology made worse with the intersectionality of other leftist ideologies such LGBT, CRT and the like. Now any left leaning ideology will to some degree incorporate values unrelated to its cause. And this is systemic as the laws of the land are seldom enforced or unequally enforced against these racist acts.

The situation has deteriorated to the point that environmentalism now espouses such racist ideology in their cause. So let's introduce this group called "Wildlife and Countryside Link". A group with 80 members including WWF, the RSPCA and National Trust. This group published a report claiming that the English countryside is a racist, white colonial space. And because of this "Whiteness" somehow nature is mismanaged and exclusionary due to the inherit "colonialism" of the white people. I haven't read such GARBAGE (I reiterate - GARBAGE) devoid of scientific evidence or any academic standard since the Onion (a satirical site). This group however is no satirical site. Here is where the danger lies, the normalization of white-hate into every aspect of life. Any issue regardless of the root cause will inevitability be linked to white people.

No arrest is made and no investigate is opened against the group - so far. You might ask why should there be? The answer is simple, because regular people has gotten worse for the similar unsavory opinions about "minorities". When your country can't enforce law equally, it is systemic failure. In this case it becomes systemic racism, where hate and vilification of a group of people is ignored or downplayed.

And before someone comes and write "white grievance" thread, know that I'm not white and don't live in the Western world. My profile will tell you all you need to know about me. I'm also not right-leaning by any measure of the political spectrum. I'm just a classical liberal and that unfortunately means I'm right by today's western standards.

But I'll end with this: racism in any manifestation is still racism. I hate ALL RACISM.

He is obsessed

I just need to unload this. I'm sorry. I don't want to keep making these kinds of posts but please consider how painful it is for me.

My dad is on a new kick to sabotage my walk with God. The newest thing is him saying how he wants to bring relatives from Pakistan (he doesn’t say who though) to live closer to us – and when I expressed my objection, he retorted “Is CHRISTIANITY more important??” When I accused him of doing this on purpose, he denied it, but I don’t believe it. He knows how much this makes me uncomfortable, and I don't doubt for a single moment that he doesn't relish in what he believes is the "fact" that I will give up the faith for the sake of his relatives, who I have no responsibility to obey. Even if my dad is doing this out of genuine desire to have his family around, I can't believe that he isn't dying for this to happen to me.

I'm not sure I can get Communion next time around (I just did confession on Ash Wednesday) because the thought crossed my mind "I hate his guts." I tried to sweep it aside, and I think I did (I don't know how long it took), but I'm still nothing short of exasperated at him.
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FBI Informant at Heart of GOP’s Biden Bribery Allegations Charged with Lying About Hunter and Joe Bidens’ Role in Ukraine Business.

Is this undercutting the GOP's impeachment inquiry?

The FBI source who claimed to have information regarding alleged bribes paid to President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, has been charged with fabricating the allegations during interviews with federal agents.

David Weiss, the special prosecutor and Trump appointee who is overseeing two federal cases against Hunter Biden, obtained a grand jury indictment in the Central District of California against Alexander Smirnov on charges that he made false statements to federal investigators during his time as a confidential human source for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

According to the indictment, Mr Smirnov allegedly “provided false derogatory information” to agents about President Biden, who is described in the court documents as “Public Official 1, an elected official in the Obama-Biden Administration who left office in January 2017,” and Hunter Biden, who prosecutors describe as “Businessperson 1, the son of Public Official 1, in 2020, after Public Official 1 became a candidate for President of the United States of America”.

These false allegations have formed the backbone of a Republican impeachment probe into President Biden.
Are these allegations of the Informant lying a massive blow to House Republicans’ attempt to impeach Biden?

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YEC is physically impossible

I've decided to post this thread in the Physical and Life Science forum instead of the Creationism and Evolution forum as it deals with debunking YEC when it presents itself as a "science" (creation science) rather than a purely literal interpretation of the Bible.

A typical YEC argument is radiometric dating can't be trusted as the decay rates may have been much faster in the past before setting down to the rates we observe today.
Even if this was true radioactive decay being an exothermic process produces heat irrespective of the decay rate which raises the question how was all this heat spanning Earth's history dissipated in the YEC time frame?

A PhD student has done her homework on the question and the answer it is impossible which starts from the 9 minute mark of the video.

Former FBI informant charged with lying about the Bidens’ role in Ukraine business, undercutting GOP impeachment inquiry

Who could have predicted that Republican slam dunk witness in anti Biden farce would be charged with lying?



Fox News link now found.

"The FBI's Involvement Was Deep, Not Just On J-6 But In The Days, Weeks, And Months Prior"

RealClearPolitics

GOP Rep. Clay Higgins: "The FBI's Involvement Was Deep, Not Just On J-6 But In The Days, Weeks, And Months Prior"​

November 30, 2023

REP. CLAY HIGGINS: The FBI was not only involved in actions on January 6 from within, they had I suspect over 200 agents embedded within the crowd, including agents they would call human assets inside the Capitol dressed as Trump supporters before the doors were opened. Beyond that, the FBI had embedded themselves and infiltrated online chat groups, websites, and social media accounts across the country.

NewYorkPost

FBI lost count of how many paid informants were at Capitol on Jan. 6, and later performed audit to figure out exact number: ex-official​

Sep. 19, 2023

The FBI had so many paid informants at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, that it lost track of the number and had to perform a later audit to determine exactly how many “Confidential Human Sources” run by different FBI field offices were present that day, a former assistant director of the bureau has told lawmakers.
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