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You just keep stomping your feet and saying no. That isn't making the evidence that humans are apes go away. The same thing with magic words like "supposition". You think it poofs away the evidence in a puff of smoke, but it's still there unaddressed when it clears.

Its still unproven though
 
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No. I don't think it's odd, and I really have no idea how you justify trying to hold me accountable for YOUR assumptions. Get a grip already.

And FYI, the first person to make it up the edge of space did in fact say it looked flat.
Uhh these are not MY assumptions. This is observable evidence from 500 humans who went into space and SAW with their own 2 eyes a round Earth, NOT a flat Earth. If the Earth was flat they would have reported seeing a flat Earth. This is a FACT, not an assumption. Nobody that made it into space ever said the Earth was flat. Funny that someone who has ZERO evidence or facts is telling me to get a grip. The humans below must be lying about what they saw eh?

As we got further and further away, it [the Earth] diminished in size. Finally it shrank to the size of a marble, the most beautiful you can imagine.
That beautiful, warm, living object looked so fragile, so delicate, that if you touched it with a finger it would crumble and fall apart. Seeing this has to change a man.”

– James B. Irwin,
Astronaut, Apollo Program



“The Earth was small, light blue, and so touchingly alone, our home that must be defended like a holy relic.
The Earth was absolutely round.
I believe I never knew what the word round meant until I saw Earth from space. ”

– Aleksei Leonov, Cosmonaut,
First Human to Conduct Extra-Vehicular Activity
 
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Its still unproven though

So isn't that the earth is round and goes around the sun, that germs cause diseases and that object fall towards to earth when dropped instead of floating off into space. Nothing is ever proven in science. We've discussed that many times here.

Instead of playing word games, how about you toss me a bone here and answer one simple question. Is this skull (it's three different angles of a single skull) ape or human and why do you conclude as you do?
Turkana Profiles.jpg
 
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No. I don't think it's odd, and I really have no idea how you justify trying to hold me accountable for YOUR assumptions. Get a grip already.

And FYI, the first person to make it up the edge of space did in fact say it looked flat.
More for you SeventyOne. All liars right? Just assumptions right?

Don L. Lind, astonaut and STS-51-B mission specialist: “Intellectually, I knew what to expect. I have probably looked at as many pictures from space as anybody … so I knew exactly what I was going to see … But there is no way you can be prepared for the emotional impact … It brought tears to my eyes.”

"For the first time in my life I saw the horizon as a curved line. It was accentuated by a thin seam of dark blue light—our atmosphere. Obviously this was not the ocean of air I had been told it was so many times in my life. I was terrified by its fragile appearance."

— Ulf Merbold, ESA Astronaut

"I think the one overwhelming emotion that we had was when we saw the earth rising in the distance over the lunar landscape . . . . It makes us realize that we all do exist on one small globe. For from 230,000 miles away it really is a small planet."

— Frank Borman, Commander of Apollo 8

"Suddenly, from behind the rim of the Moon, in long, slow-motion moments of immense majesty, there emerges a sparkling blue and white jewel, a light, delicate sky-blue sphere laced with slowly swirling veils of white, rising gradually like a small pearl in a thick sea of black mystery. It takes more than a moment to fully realize this is Earth . . . home."

— Edgar Mitchell, Apollo Astronaut
 
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Uhh these are not MY assumptions. This is observable evidence from 500 humans who went into space and SAW with their own 2 eyes a round Earth, NOT a flat Earth. If the Earth was flat they would have reported seeing a flat Earth. This is a FACT, not an assumption. Nobody that made it into space ever said the Earth was flat. Funny that someone who has ZERO evidence or facts is telling me to get a grip. The humans below must be lying about what they saw eh?

As we got further and further away, it [the Earth] diminished in size. Finally it shrank to the size of a marble, the most beautiful you can imagine.
That beautiful, warm, living object looked so fragile, so delicate, that if you touched it with a finger it would crumble and fall apart. Seeing this has to change a man.”

– James B. Irwin,
Astronaut, Apollo Program



“The Earth was small, light blue, and so touchingly alone, our home that must be defended like a holy relic.
The Earth was absolutely round.
I believe I never knew what the word round meant until I saw Earth from space. ”

– Aleksei Leonov, Cosmonaut,
First Human to Conduct Extra-Vehicular Activity

Interesting there is no film footage of this amazing feat, that would sure be a very valuable teaching tool for citizens all over the earth.

Unless you have access to film footage or a rocket leaving earth and as this person describes (As we got further and further away, it [the Earth] diminished in size. Finally it shrank to the size of a marble, the most beautiful you can imagine.)

I looked and this is the closest i could find. A rocket being shot up into the air and finally levels off and fly's over the surface of the earth. But before the rocket comes back down into the ocean. The film is stopped, or it is not stopped, but just this part is made available for viewing.

 
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Interesting there is no film footage of this amazing feat, that would sure be a very valuable teaching tool for citizens all over the earth.

Unless you have access to film footage or a rocket leaving earth and as this person describes (As we got further and further away, it [the Earth] diminished in size. Finally it shrank to the size of a marble, the most beautiful you can imagine.)

I looked and this is the closest i could find. A rocket being shot up into the air and finally levels off and fly's over the surface of the earth. But before the rocket comes back down into the ocean. The film is stopped, or it is not stopped, but just this part is made available for viewing.

So basically you are calling this astronaut a liar. I’ll give you a hint. This astronaut saw the Earth in 1966. They didn’t have the video technology back then to film an entire mission leaving Earth.

Btw in that video you start to see curvature of the Earth.
 
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I'm committed to believing it because it's the truth and the truth matters to me. It's really not much deeper than that.

Why are you so convinced it's the truth, to the point where you have to invoke such a conspiracy and outright deny all conflicting evidence?
 
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Interesting there is no film footage of this amazing feat

Like you’d accept it if there was.



Unless you have access to film footage or a rocket leaving earth and as this person describes (As we got further and further away, it [the Earth] diminished in size. Finally it shrank to the size of a marble, the most beautiful you can imagine.)

I looked and this is the closest i could find. A rocket being shot up into the air and finally levels off and fly's over the surface of the earth. But before the rocket comes back down into the ocean. The film is stopped, or it is not stopped, but just this part is made available for viewing.


You can find all sorts of rocket footage. You’re not going to accept any of it, so I don’t much see why you care.
 
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And FYI, the first person to make it up the edge of space did in fact say it looked flat.

August Picard didn't get anywhere near the edge of space. That flight was about 84km short of outer space.
 
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No. I don't think it's odd, and I really have no idea how you justify trying to hold me accountable for YOUR assumptions. Get a grip already.

And FYI, the first person to make it up the edge of space did in fact say it looked flat.

No. He didn’t.

Actually read the article. Piccard himself never said that - the person writing the article did. Piccard is quoted in that article, and he isn’t quoted as saying that.

He did write about that journey, however. In all of his writings, he only ever describes the Earth as a globe.
 
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No where in any of my post have i said anything about the earth being shape like a pancake.
You continue to make false statements, in my original post i state the Bible as my reason for my belief in flat stationary earth.

The Bible states that Joshua commanded the sun and moon to stop moving. Joshua 10,

Isaiah 38 states that the sun returned 10 degrees in a promise God made to Hezekiah

Psalms 19 states that the sun circuit is from one end of heaven to the other end.

Prove from the Bible that the earth moves around the sun.

You don't think God could make the sun stand still in the sky on a round earth?
 
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You don't think God could make the sun stand still in the sky on a round earth?

God can do anything
But what i am asking this person is from the Bible, to show where in the Bible, the Bible states that the earth moves around the sun.
 
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But what i am asking this person is from the Bible, to show where in the Bible, the Bible states that the earth moves around the sun.

It doesn't explicitly state that, but it doesn't explicitly state the opposite either.
 
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It's things like this that make people who believe in Flerf look silly.

Earth's atmosphere extends far beyond the Moon, scientists discover

Earth’s atmosphere is made up of layers of gas surrounding the planet and held in place by gravity. The different layers are known as the troposphere, the stratosphere, the mesosphere, the thermosphere and the exosphere. The geocorona—where the atmosphere merges with outer space—is a cloud of hydrogen atoms.
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The hydrogen cloud was mapped in the 1990s by NASA and the European Space Agency using the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) instrument. The initial aim of SOHO was to study the Sun’s deep core, outer corona and solar wind. It orbits Earth at a distance of almost a million miles—that’s around three times the distance between us and the Moon.​

So, flat earthers think that a satellite orbiting the earth at a distance of 1,000,000 miles launched by NASA, the supposed all powerful boogie man of Flerf, observing a wispy layer of hydrogen atoms surrounding the earth at the edge of outer space extending to beyond the orbit of the moon supports their claims?

:doh:
 
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It doesn't explicitly state that, but it doesn't explicitly state the opposite either.

The Bible clearly states that it is the sun moving.

And Psalms 19 states God has placed a tent over the earth and that the sun's circuit is from one end to the other of the tent.
 
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The Bible clearly states that it is the sun moving.

And Psalms 19 states God has placed a tent over the earth and that the sun's circuit is from one end to the other of the tent.

Does it matter? Is there anybody so foolish that they think that the whole of Christianity (and Judaism) will collapse if it is proved that the Bible is wrong about the Earth's shape and rotation and its orbital motion around the Sun?
 
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