You'll have to pry the gun (and Bible) out of my cold, dead hands

[GrumpyHillbilly]

If Obama isn't the anti-christ he's doing a great impersonation!

 

[crazycat]

“If a thief is caught in the act of breaking into a house and is struck and killed in the process, the person who killed the thief is not guilty of murder. Exodus 22:2

I see nothing wrong with a family defending itself from evil or tyranny. Every home should have a gun for protection, especially with the coming depression.

It is a scientific fact that people will steal and loot beginning 3 days after a disaster with no supplies. They will begin to kill for food at about 7 days.

 

[gracechick]

If Obama isn't the anti-christ he's doing a great impersonation!

I don't believe he fullfils all the criteria IMHO. But as a pastor stated he does contiue to need our prayers so that he may truely find Jesus.

We need to remember the antichrist is a spirit working through a human willing to be used by satan. Our battle is not flesh and blood, but the powers, principalities in the heavnelies

 

[4hurting]

Well, I said it and keep saying, sure pray for them, but I'm very wary of Obama.

I think the Berlin speech did it for a lot of people, cue Michael York in Omega code and such movies saying people of the world.
Good job Obama never said the word my, 'My people of the world.'
Never would have got elected of course then.

We were talking Berlin, yet it was if he was in his own back yard.

As if people are suddenly hypnotized into some trance, that Obama, one man, a human, will rescue all, will be perfect, save us.

Heck, nice smile, seems charming, if I was not awake, still before March 2003,I'd be over the moon too, be glad to see the back of Bush, so on.
But knowing what I know now, welcome to the end times.

Bit by bit, because of terrorism and now the global melt down in money, so on, we see more so called laws introduced and the vast majority ignore it, go along with it, cause after all, what can we do, they got us in to this mess, so who better to get us out of it right.

Think I recall Tony Blair practically saying, yes to freedoms being compromised at all costs if it averted Terrorism.
Well I'm sorry, that is just plain wrong, the terrorists then win, moral battle in a way, as we lose our freedoms and they just move on to something else, another way to attack us, or our interests.

Well done for being brave to step out and speak out.

Sadly though, because this forum is open, as opposed to, can not see unless you join, google and yahoo records it and anyone looking finds you and me, game over.

But if we are in Christ, where if we are killed, we live, lol, can never die, so what.

Again, keep battling, revealing and do what it seems you darn well do best, amen.

 

[4hurting]

By the way, remember Bible history repeats itself,last time when Israel was a nation, who was in their land, romans, right.
They sort of never really got beat out right, split up and East and West and one lasted bit longer than the other and so on.
Today thanks to the E.U the wound is healed.

If America does hold on to being the main super-power and we are closer to Jesus return, I still figure Obama to be more a false prophet than an anti-christ.

But then again what is an anti-christ, anyone who goes against what Christ stands for.

Where does Obama stand on abortion and homosexuality and the laws you mention being swiftly adopted, food for thought.

However the key is Israel and no doubt Jesus would have had them in mind first and foremost, hence telling his disciples, jews.
So could the anti-christ be eastern, Putin, or Arab leader, bu America sticks its nose in, pushing, pushing, then wonders why it gets hit, though much of that is due to sin and going away from God.

Been said that on the day the Israelis left Gaza Hurricane Katrina Hit New Orleans, coincidence, pershaps.
But according to Joel 3, stop forcing Israel to give up her land.

Or else Americans come back to the UK, all of you and hand the land back to the Indians you stole it from, lol.
Israel was attacked in 1967 and won that short 6 days war.
Now being forced to give up those lands.
They pull out of Gaza and they fight each other and then still for 8 years send tons of rockets in to Israel.
But the biased press make out like Israel stole the land.
Look back through history, always been a remnant there.

Look at what us British did, no wonder God took our empire away from us.

Not a land, but spiritual issue.

So keep watching what happens to Israel, they are the main key concerning Christs return, God has not done with them, still the apple of His eye, we are adopted into the vine, we are the branches, no replacement theology.
Jesus is dark, Jewish and does not have blue eyes or speak English, lol, and time all Christian, knew and accepted that.

 

[gracechick]

Littlelamb your sigs crack me up. As for the lady diving off the boat Hey I feel like I've had days like that

 

[gracechick]

Israel is our key to understanding so much and knowing the season. I cringed when Rice who talks about being a believer pushing Isreal to give peace for land which has never worked. Now this administration makes me want to run and buy mres, medicines and whatever we need to survive in the woods...

 

[Bible2]

crazycat posted in message #182 of this thread:

“If a thief is caught in the act of breaking into a house and is struck
and killed in the process, the person who killed the thief is not guilty
of murder. Exodus 22:2

I see nothing wrong with a family defending itself from evil or
tyranny. Every home should have a gun for protection, especially
with the coming depression.

Greetings.

Jesus' New Covenant commandments supersede the commandments
of the Old Covenant (Matthew 5:38-48, 26:52). Biblical Christians do
not employ physical weapons (2 Corinthians 10:3-5) or attack flesh
and blood people (Ephesians 6:12). They do not think that their lives
(John 12:25) or possessions (Hebrews 10:34) are more important than
the lives of others, who could one day become mighty apostles of
God, even though today they may be attacking Christians (1 Timothy
1:13-16). Biblical Christians know that they are to follow the example
of Jesus when he was attacked (1 Peter 2:19-23, cf. 1 Peter 4:12-19),
that they are to be as unarmed as sheep among wolves, and as
harmless as doves (Matthew 10:16).

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

This thread sounds like a thread Clint Eastwood would have started.

 

[BrightCandle]

{In reference to Obama's put-down of middle-Americans where he said they are bitter and they cling to their guns and their religion.}

With a national, military-style police force being formed, the Fairness doctrine, a Marxist-socialist agenda, and anti-Americanism coming from our government and newly elected leaders, is anybody else feeling like the dawn of police-state USA is just around the corner?

Welcome to the USSA (United Socialist States of American)!