Will someone explain the 7 churches that was addressed in Revelations?

[1stcenturylady]

Every scholar on earth knows there are two rides of the white horse in revelation-- The war in heaven with this result-Rev 6, and Har-mageddon with this result( Daniel 2:44)---White = righteous in the bible. Jesus has been ruling heaven since 1914--he comes to the earth at Har-mageddon-- Jesus is Gods exact image--God showed all in the OT he isn't fooling around.

Jesus does come riding a white horse, but not in Rev. 6, but later. It is the very reason that Jesus would ride a white horse, that the Antichrist, impersonating the Christ, would be also. Don't you see that?

You still haven't said why you chose 1914.

 

[Radagast]

There are many mistranslated errors and alterations in every trinity bible in existence--that is proven fact.

This is a forum for Trinitarian Christians only.

 

[Open Heart]

The war in heaven was the righteous war. Not the war on earth.

The suggest was that the verse was related to the war of 1914. That's WWI.

The spiritual war has been going on since the beginning of time and will continue until the devil and his angels are cast into the lake of fire.

 

[Open Heart]

No, Scripture explains Scripture.

This is simply not true, especially when it comes to Apocalyptic writings.

May I recommend the book, Revelation: Four Views and a Parallel Commentary by Steve Gregg. It goes passage by passage, and gives the interpretation of each of the four different interpretations: Historic, Preterist, Futurist, and Idealist. It is very deep and heavy reading that you have to take slowly so that you can think and pray on what it says. I've been reading it for 10 months now and I'm still not through.

 

[Radagast]

The suggest was that the verse was related to the war of 1914.

The idea that Satan was cast out of heaven in 1914 and that Jesus is the Archangel Michael are standard Jehovah's Witness doctrines.

 

[1stcenturylady]

This is simply not true, especially when it comes to Apocalyptic writings.

May I recommend the book, Revelation: Four Views and a Parallel Commentary by Steve Gregg. It goes passage by passage, and gives the interpretation of each of the four different interpretations: Historic, Preterist, Futurist, and Idealist. It is very deep and heavy reading that you have to take slowly so that you can think and pray on what it says. I've been reading it for 10 months now and I'm still not through.

Matthew 24 is about end times, just as is Revelation. There are a lot of interpretations out there, but God wrote His Word, and His method of comparing Scripture to Scripture is the best way to weed out the fanciful interpretations from the real. Read the Word, not books about the Word.

 

[kjw47]

Jesus does come riding a white horse, but not in Rev. 6, but later. It is the very reason that Jesus would ride a white horse, that the Antichrist, impersonating the Christ, would be also. Don't you see that?

You still haven't said why you chose 1914.

There will be no man antichrist. The term was number of a man, NUMBER is the key not man-666. In the numbers of man-7 = complete, thus 6 falls short of complete. 3 things in the ruling power positions on earth
1) govts-6
2)the commercial system- 6
3)false religions.- 6 --- All incomplete with their promises in comparison to the promises made concerning Gods kingdom rule= 7-- These promises will come to pass.

 

[kjw47]

The suggest was that the verse was related to the war of 1914. That's WWI.

The spiritual war has been going on since the beginning of time and will continue until the devil and his angels are cast into the lake of fire.

No, Michael battles satan and his angels-the war in heaven. The bible says--satan was cast down to the earth, knowing his time was short. Rev 12 explains the war in heaven, but it was at Rev 6 when it occurred. The first ride of the white horse as I said. At the second ride Jesus comes to earth and captures satan to abyss him for 1000 years. So Rev 6 has to be the war in heaven--Yet he recieves his crown--only Jesus is Gods appointed king but Michael got the crown because Michael is Jesus.

 

[Radagast]

because Michael is Jesus.

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[1stcenturylady]

There will be no man antichrist. The term was number of a man, NUMBER is the key not man-666. In the numbers of man-7 = complete, thus 6 falls short of complete. 3 things in the ruling power positions on earth
1) govts-6
2)the commercial system- 6
3)false religions.- 6 --- All incomplete with their promises in comparison to the promises made concerning Gods kingdom rule= 7-- These promises will come to pass.

So did you just pull 1914 out of the air, or what!

 

[Open Heart]

No, Michael battles satan and his angels-the war in heaven. The bible says--satan was cast down to the earth, knowing his time was short. Rev 12 explains the war in heaven, but it was at Rev 6 when it occurred. The first ride of the white horse as I said. At the second ride Jesus comes to earth and captures satan to abyss him for 1000 years. So Rev 6 has to be the war in heaven--Yet he recieves his crown--only Jesus is Gods appointed king but Michael got the crown because Michael is Jesus.

And you honestly think this battle happened in 1914? Sigh*

 

[1stcenturylady]

And you honestly think this battle happened in 1914? Sigh*

I've asked him to explain, and he's ignored me...

 

[Radagast]

So did you just pull 1914 out of the air, or what!

Originally it was a "prophecy" that the world would end in 1914 (in 1894 they said "bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble"). When the world didn't end as predicted, the "Jehovah's Witnesses" switched to saying that 1914 marked a "battle in heaven." World War I actually has nothing to do with it.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Originally it was a "prophecy" that the world would end in 1914 (in 1894 they said "bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble"). When the world didn't end as predicted, the "Jehovah's Witnesses" switched to saying that 1914 marked a "battle in heaven." World War I actually has nothing to do with it.

Oh, so kjw47 is JW. No wonder he has been saying some things I've never heard before. Thanks...

 

[Radagast]

Oh, so kjw47 is JW.

That's also why he attacks the Trinity and says that Jesus is the Archangel Michael.

 

[1stcenturylady]

That's also why he attacks the Trinity and says that Jesus is the Archangel Michael.

God is bigger than our puny minds can fathom. It was a long time after I was saved that I discovered that the Bible actually said that Jesus is God. JW's love Jesus too, as well as the Father, so they are saved, IMO. We all have doctrines we believe that may actually be false. We don't have to be scholars to be saved.

 

[kjw47]

So did you just pull 1914 out of the air, or what!

No , The events that occurred in 1914 prove it.

 

[kjw47]

The idea that Satan was cast out of heaven in 1914 and that Jesus is the Archangel Michael are standard Jehovah's Witness doctrines.

The bible proves both truths.

 

[1stcenturylady]

No , The events that occurred in 1914 prove it.

So are you going to tell me or not? Or is this just some kind of con?

 

[kjw47]

So are you going to tell me or not? Or is this just some kind of con?

I already explained what occurred at rev 6.