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Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]PROTESTANT CONFESSIONS[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Protestant theologians and preachers from a wide spectrum of denominations have been quite candid in admitting that there is no Biblical authority for observing Sunday as a sabbath.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Anglican/Episcopal[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Isaac Williams, Plain Sermons on the Catechism, vol. 1, pp.334, 336. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"And where are we told in the Scriptures that we are to keep the first day at all? We are commanded to keep the seventh; but we are nowhere commanded to keep the first day .... The reason why we keep the first day of the week holy instead of the seventh is for the same reason that we observe many other things, not because the Bible, but because the church has enjoined it."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Canon Eyton, The Ten Commandments, pp. 52, 63, 65.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"There is no word, no hint, in the New Testament about abstaining from work on Sunday .... into the rest of Sunday no divine law enters.... The observance of Ash Wednesday or Lent stands exactly on the same footing as the observance of Sunday."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Bishop Seymour, Why We Keep Sunday.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]We have made the change from the seventh day to the first day, from Saturday to Sunday, on the authority of the one holy Catholic Church."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Baptist[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Dr. Edward T. Hiscox, a paper read before a New York ministers' conference, Nov. 13, 1893, reported in New York Examiner, Nov.16, 1893.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not Sunday. It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week .... Where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament absolutely not.[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"To me it seems unaccountable that Jesus, during three years' intercourse with His disciples, often conversing with them upon the Sabbath question . . . never alluded to any transference of the day; also, that during forty days of His resurrection life, no such thing was intimated.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history . . . . But what a pity it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of the sun god, adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]William Owen Carver, The Lord's Day in Our Day, p. 49.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"There was never any formal or authoritative change from the Jewish seventh-day Sabbath to the Christian first-day observance."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Congregationalist[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Dr. R. W. Dale, The Ten Commandments (New York: Eaton &Mains), p. 127-129.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]" . . . it is quite clear that however rigidly or devotedly we may spend Sunday, we are not keeping the Sabbath — . . 'The Sabbath was founded on a specific Divine command. We can plead no such command for the obligation to observe Sunday .... There is not a single sentence in the New Testament to suggest that we incur any penalty by violating the supposed sanctity of Sunday."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Timothy Dwight, Theology: Explained and Defended (1823), Ser. 107, vol. 3, p. 258.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]" . . . the Christian Sabbath [Sunday] is not in the Scriptures, and was not by the primitive Church called the Sabbath."[/FONT]​
 
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Disciples of Christ[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Alexander Campbell, The Christian Baptist, Feb. 2, 1824,vol. 1. no. 7, p. 164.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"'But,' say some, 'it was changed from the seventh to the first day.' Where? when? and by whom? No man can tell. No; it never was changed, nor could it be, unless creation was to be gone through again: for the reason assigned must be changed before the observance, or respect to the reason, can be changed! It is all old wives' fables to talk of the change of the Sabbath from the seventh to the first day. If it be changed, it was that august personage changed it who changes times and laws ex officio - I think his name is Doctor Antichrist.'[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]First Day Observance, pp. 17, 19.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"The first day of the week is commonly called the Sabbath. This is a mistake. The Sabbath of the Bible was the day just preceding the first day of the week. The first day of the week is never called the Sabbath anywhere in the entire Scriptures. It is also an error to talk about the change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. There is not in any place in the Bible any intimation of such a change."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Lutheran[/FONT]​


[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]The Sunday Problem, a study book of the United Lutheran Church (1923), p. 36.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"We have seen how gradually the impression of the Jewish sabbath faded from the mind of the Christian Church, and how completely the newer thought underlying the observance of the first day took possession of the church. We have seen that the Christians of the first three centuries never confused one with the other, but for a time celebrated both."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Augsburg Confession of Faith art. 28; written by Melanchthon, approved by Martin Luther, 1530; as published in The Book of Concord of the Evangelical Lutheran Church Henry Jacobs, ed. (1 91 1), p. 63.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"They [Roman Catholics] refer to the Sabbath Day, a shaving been changed into the Lord's Day, contrary to the Decalogue, as it seems. Neither is there any example whereof they make more than concerning the changing of the Sabbath Day. Great, say they, is the power of the Church, since it has dispensed with one of the Ten Commandments!"[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Dr. Augustus Neander, The History of the Christian Religion and Church Henry John Rose, tr. (1843), p. 186.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"The festival of Sunday, like all other festivals, was always only a human ordinance, and it was far from the intentions of the apostles to establish a Divine command in this respect, far from them, and from the early apostolic Church, to transfer the laws of the Sabbath to Sunday."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]John Theodore Mueller, Sabbath or Sunday, pp. 15, 16.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"But they err in teaching that Sunday has taken the place of the Old Testament Sabbath and therefore must be kept as the seventh day had to be kept by the children of Israel .... These churches err in their teaching, for Scripture has in no way ordained the first day of the week in place of the Sabbath. There is simply no law in the New Testament to that effect."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Methodist[/FONT]​


[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Harris Franklin Rall, Christian Advocate, July 2, 1942, p.26.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"Take the matter of Sunday. There are indications in the New Testament as to how the church came to keep the first day of the week as its day of worship, but there is no passage telling Christians to keep that day, or to transfer the Jewish Sabbath to that day."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]John Wesley, The Works of the Rev. John Wesley, A.M., John Emory, ed. (New York: Eaton & Mains), Sermon 25,vol. 1, p. 221. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"But, the moral law contained in the ten commandments, and enforced by the prophets, he [Christ] did not take away. It was not the design of his coming to revoke any part of this. This is a law which never can be broken .... Every part of this law must remain in force upon all mankind, and in all ages; as not depending either on time or place, or any other circumstances liable to change, but on the nature of God and the nature of man, and their unchangeable relation to each other."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Dwight L. Moody[/FONT]​


[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]D. L. Moody, Weighed and Wanting (Fleming H. Revell Co.: New York), pp. 47, 48.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]The Sabbath was binding in Eden, and it has been in force ever since. This fourth commandment begins with the word 'remember,' showing that the Sabbath already existed when God Wrote the law on the tables of stone at Sinai. How can men claim that this one commandment has been done away with when they will admit that the other nine are still binding?"[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]Presbyterian[/FONT]​


[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]T. C. Blake, D.D., Theology Condensed, pp.474, 475.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Arial]"The Sabbath is a part of the decalogue — the Ten Commandments. This alone forever settles the question as to the perpetuity of the institution . . . . Until, therefore, it can be shown that the whole moral law has been repealed, the Sabbath will stand . . . . The teaching of Christ confirms the perpetuity of the Sabbath."[/FONT]​
 
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JimfromOhio said:
...As long as our conscience is clear and our heart is pure before God, don't be concerned with issues. That is GRACE.
Let me give you a hypothetical situation: You and I are members of the same church. Somehow you discover that I, a married man, am engaging in a sexual affair with a young woman. My conscience seems clear about this; I even quote Scriptures about grace to justify my actions. Would you not make every effort to show me, from Scripture, reason, and example, that no matter what I may think, I am still sinning? Same if I were to engage in, say, a Transcendental Meditation-style mantra that named, not YHWH God our Lord, but some Greek or Hindu deity; or if I were a young person who constantly disobeyed my parents; or if I were a corporate executive who skimmed profits from my company. Yet, isn't that "concern about issues" by the standards you use in the post I quoted? Would I not be justified in using the Scriptures about grace to justify my actions or lack of action?

This is the absurdity of the "grace is sufficient" argument against the seventh-day Sabbath. Again, I do not rely on my obedience to save me from Hell; it can never be good enough!:sorry: But, because of the grace that I have been given, I obey as well as I am able and trust in God's grace shown in Jesus of Nazareth for what I can never do for myself. You see? Not to GAIN grace, but BECAUSE I have been GIVEN grace.

Just as faith without works is dead, so grace without obedience is fruitless.
 
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jochanaan said:
Let me give you a hypothetical situation: You and I are members of the same church. Somehow you discover that I, a married man, am engaging in a sexual affair with a young woman. My conscience seems clear about this; I even quote Scriptures about grace to justify my actions. Would you not make every effort to show me, from Scripture, reason, and example, that no matter what I may think, I am still sinning? Same if I were to engage in, say, a Transcendental Meditation-style mantra that named, not YHWH God our Lord, but some Greek or Hindu deity; or if I were a young person who constantly disobeyed my parents; or if I were a corporate executive who skimmed profits from my company. Yet, isn't that "concern about issues" by the standards you use in the post I quoted? Would I not be justified in using the Scriptures about grace to justify my actions or lack of action?

This is the absurdity of the "grace is sufficient" argument against the seventh-day Sabbath. Again, I do not rely on my obedience to save me from Hell; it can never be good enough!:sorry: But, because of the grace that I have been given, I obey as well as I am able and trust in God's grace shown in Jesus of Nazareth for what I can never do for myself. You see? Not to GAIN grace, but BECAUSE I have been GIVEN grace.

Just as faith without works is dead, so grace without obedience is fruitless.

Sexual Sin is alot different than Ceremonial Law of the Sabbath. In my opinion, Spiritual Warfare is in our hearts. God looks into my heart for our spiritual obedience rather than perfection. We will never be perfect as long as we live in our body. Like David's experiences, God meets us in our heart rather than our mind therefore we need to focus on the "heart of the matter". Every wrong act or practice begins with a "thought". Even though, our actions may "appear to be right" but we need to understand that Christians are always engaged in a spiritual warfare. Proverbs 4:23, it says "Above all else, guard your heart, for it affects everything you do." Spiritual maturity requires great care and a true knowledge of ourselves to distinguish a spiritual burden from irritation around us but at the same time, we cannot close our minds to everything that is happening around us. "Be very careful, then, how you live--not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil." (Ephesians 5:15-16). We are to worship God from our hearts because we are the temple of the living God (2 Corinthians 6:16), that God will search us and try us, and know our thoughts.(Psalm 139:23).

We must NOT confuse between sin and Law and Grace.

Jesus Christ cleaned our sins and all God wants us to do is be Christ-like. Jesus said in Matthew 5:8 "God blesses those whose hearts are pure, for they will see God." God wants our hearts more than He want us to follow rules. If we give our hearts to God, then we will know what is sinful and what is not sinful. During our struggles with the flesh and facing temptations, we have to learn that we should not be looking at our inadequacies because obviously, they will always be there. We just need to be looking at our adequacy in the Holy Spirit, which will always be in us. This is God's design, and it pleases Him to do so that we can rely on the Holy Spirit. "Watch and pray that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."--Matt. 26:41. Biblically, Christians are no longer "in the flesh": "You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him" (Rom 8:9).

Gotta Stop for Dinner, I will be back to talk about
"Grace is sufficient" :D
 
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We should all be aware that every day is a day of testing. Reading Paul's Letters in the New Testament, he had the wisdom to recognize that God's power can be experienced in trials and God does not always delivers us from trials but that He brings us through trials more like Christ and closer to Him. Reading Paul's Letters and aware of his afflictions that we can learn much truth from such trials, some of it depressing and some altogether elevating and wonderful. Reading 2 Corinthians 12:9 says "God said 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me." Christ is our strength, our enablement. We are hopelessly weak in ourselves but powerfully strong in Him!

This is from my journal:
In reality, we cannot escape circumstances because they will always happen, one way or another. Without circumstances, our self-discovery of spiritual maturity will not be completed. Our greatest teachers are circumstances because they train us into spiritual growth occurred in the most unfavorable of circumstances. When we most aware of our weaknesses, we are more inclined to collapse into God's strength and experience His amazing grace. "My grace is sufficient for you, for power is made perfect in weakness." (2 Cor. 12:9).

Its like Jesus is the Vine and we are the fruits. The fruitless branches are cut off from our life. Jesus is the vine and our vinedresser is the Father. God is pruning in the concept of purging. The word purge means "to cleanse", "to prune". God purges/prunes a branch that bears fruit (a Christian) so that it might bear more fruit (become spiritually mature). Our wonderful God removes sin or worldly distractions that would hinder our fruit-bearing because He wants us to bear godly fruit.
 
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JimfromOhio said:
We should all be aware that every day is a day of testing. Reading Paul's Letters in the New Testament, he had the wisdom to recognize that God's power can be experienced in trials and God does not always delivers us from trials but that He brings us through trials more like Christ and closer to Him. Reading Paul's Letters and aware of his afflictions that we can learn much truth from such trials, some of it depressing and some altogether elevating and wonderful. Reading 2 Corinthians 12:9 says "God said 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me." Christ is our strength, our enablement. We are hopelessly weak in ourselves but powerfully strong in Him!

Jim:

Don't you think that Jesus can give you the grace to keep the Sabbath? Note, the quote below from your own denomination, Presbyterians, exhalting the Sabbath.

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T. C. Blake, D.D., Theology Condensed, pp.474, 475.
"The Sabbath is a part of the decalogue — the Ten Commandments. This alone forever settles the question as to the perpetuity of the institution . . . . Until, therefore, it can be shown that the whole moral law has been repealed, the Sabbath will stand . . . . The teaching of Christ confirms the perpetuity of the Sabbath."
 
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BrightCandle said:
Jim:

Don't you think that Jesus can give you the grace to keep the Sabbath? Note, the quote below from your own denomination, Presbyterians, exhalting the Sabbath.

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T. C. Blake, D.D., Theology Condensed, pp.474, 475.
"The Sabbath is a part of the decalogue — the Ten Commandments. This alone forever settles the question as to the perpetuity of the institution . . . . Until, therefore, it can be shown that the whole moral law has been repealed, the Sabbath will stand . . . . The teaching of Christ confirms the perpetuity of the Sabbath."

That's a quote. Did he say "Saturday" or "Every 7th Day"? Not sure if you knew that I am a member of a Presbyterian Church so I have seen their rules regarding Sabbath. :)
 
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JimfromOhio said:
That's a quote. Did he say "Saturday" or "Every 7th Day"? Not sure if you knew that I am a member of a Presbyterian Church so I have seen their rules regarding Sabbath. :)

Jim,

In the quote below the Presbyterian theologian refers to the Sabbath as being part of the decalogue, and the only Sabbath that is part of the decalogue is the 7th day Sabbath, and the 7th day of week, starts at Friday sundown and ends on Saturday sundown according to biblical time reckoning. The Jews are meticulous time keepers, and they have not lost track of what day the Sabbath falls on since the time of Christ. Addtionally, the Roman Catholic Church has kept good records as well, and they know what day Sunday falls on, so by default we know what day the Sabbath is.

T. C. Blake, D.D., Theology Condensed, pp.474, 475.
"The Sabbath is a part of the decalogue — the Ten Commandments. This alone forever settles the question as to the perpetuity of the institution . . . . Until, therefore, it can be shown that the whole moral law has been repealed, the Sabbath will stand . . . . The teaching of Christ confirms the perpetuity of the Sabbath."
 
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JimfromOhio said:
Sexual Sin is alot different than Ceremonial Law of the Sabbath.
But they are both in the Decalogue...
JimfromOhio said:
In my opinion, Spiritual Warfare is in our hearts. God looks into my heart for our spiritual obedience rather than perfection. We will never be perfect as long as we live in our body.
Of course not! But that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for perfection, nor that we should excuse any lapse.
 
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BrightCandle said:
Isaiah 66: 23, blows away your whole concept of a "Sabbath age", and the idea that the 7th day Sabbath will be not be literally keep in the new earth.

verse 23, Isaiah 66

"From new moon to new moon,
and from Sabbath to Sabbath,
all flesh shall come to worship before me,
declares the LORD."
Translation: month after month, week after week. I.e. all the time. This hardly strengthens the case for a single day of worship! It is part of a formula ("Festivals, New Moons, Sabbaths") used throughout the Bible. This is actually a clue to the purpose God had with these religious festivals.

Let me illustrate: Let's say Isaiah was prophesying to the Babylonians, for example, and said: "From new moon to new moon [pagans also observed new moons - that's where months come from], from the nth day to the nth day [whatever they called the last day of the week], all flesh shall come to worship before me, declared the LORD" -- what would they understand? That the message is that they should take care to observe the end of the week, or that all flesh shall worship God all the time?

Or didn't you wonder what a "new moon" would be if there was never any night (Rev. 22:5), or how it would be observed in a city that "does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it" (21:23)?
 
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BrightCandle said:
Jim,

In the quote below the Presbyterian theologian refers to the Sabbath as being part of the decalogue, and the only Sabbath that is part of the decalogue is the 7th day Sabbath, and the 7th day of week, starts at Friday sundown and ends on Saturday sundown according to biblical time reckoning. The Jews are meticulous time keepers, and they have not lost track of what day the Sabbath falls on since the time of Christ. Addtionally, the Roman Catholic Church has kept good records as well, and they know what day Sunday falls on, so by default we know what day the Sabbath is.

T. C. Blake, D.D., Theology Condensed, pp.474, 475.
"The Sabbath is a part of the decalogue — the Ten Commandments. This alone forever settles the question as to the perpetuity of the institution . . . . Until, therefore, it can be shown that the whole moral law has been repealed, the Sabbath will stand . . . . The teaching of Christ confirms the perpetuity of the Sabbath."

The Roman Catholic Church knows when the 1st day of the week is.

Once we know that then we know what the 7th day is.

Not hard to work out then what day is the Sabbath.

My calculations say that the 7th day of the week is Saturday/Sabbath
 
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JimfromOhio said:
Old Testament is LAW
New Testament is GRACE

In the new earth, will we have calendar or God will have a cycle of 7 days? No on knows.

I will repeat, I will respect your Sabbath and you should honor and respect others who have their own Sabbath... if you don't, that's between you and God. Colossians 3:13 Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.

I will repeat:
As long as our conscience is clear and our heart is pure before God, don't be concerned with issues. That is GRACE. In Romans 14:5 "One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind." 1 Corinthians 10:28-29 "both for the sake of the man who told you and for conscience' sake, the other man's conscience, I mean, not yours. For why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience?" I mean, it's like losing ourselves in the pursuit of Christ and let everything else take its place like legalism. Romans 14:10 "You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat." Colossians 2:16 "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day." Romans 14:22 "So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God."

That was very well put Jim :clap:

It was the LEGALISM that tripped up the Pharasees. It is the LEGALISM that trips up modern day Christians of all Demoninations.

We need to carefully read and re-read, study and re-study, pray and pray more and more and more.

It was a closed mind that didn't/hasen't allowed the Jews to accept Christ. It is a closed mind that keeps many, many more away from Christ's full gift today.

Take everything I say and carefully compare it with what the Scripture says,
I am your brother in Christ,
Russ
 
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Cliff2 said:
The Roman Catholic Church knows when the 1st day of the week is.

Once we know that then we know what the 7th day is.

Not hard to work out then what day is the Sabbath.

My calculations say that the 7th day of the week is Saturday/Sabbath

Show me anywhere in the Bible... where it actually names the names of the week. Where is Saturday? Where is Good Friday? Where is Sunday?

They aren't there because they aren't Godly names! God didn't name the days of the week!
 
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kw5kw said:
Show me anywhere in the Bible... where it actually names the names of the week. Where is Saturday? Where is Good Friday? Where is Sunday?

They aren't there because they aren't Godly names! God didn't name the days of the week!

He didn't name the other 6 says, but He did name the 7th day, look it up in Hebrew/English Lexicon, here is what you wil find:

tbbX (hebrew) shabbath (transliterated english)

The Sabbath is the only day that God did name.
 
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kw5kw said:
That was very well put Jim :clap:

It was the LEGALISM that tripped up the Pharasees. It is the LEGALISM that trips up modern day Christians of all Demoninations.

We need to carefully read and re-read, study and re-study, pray and pray more and more and more.

It was a closed mind that didn't/hasen't allowed the Jews to accept Christ. It is a closed mind that keeps many, many more away from Christ's full gift today.

Take everything I say and carefully compare it with what the Scripture says,
I am your brother in Christ,
Russ

The last church on earth is symbolically portrayed as lukewarn in the book of Revelation. Lukewarm Christians are not legalistic, they are live a life full of compromise, exactly what we see in the North America today, Christians who talk the talk, but who don't walk the walk! That's why Jesus said "Remember" when it comes to the Sabbath, and He also said: If you love me, keep my commandments."
 
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Nightfire said:
Translation: month after month, week after week. I.e. all the time. This hardly strengthens the case for a single day of worship! It is part of a formula ("Festivals, New Moons, Sabbaths") used throughout the Bible. This is actually a clue to the purpose God had with these religious festivals.

Let me illustrate: Let's say Isaiah was prophesying to the Babylonians, for example, and said: "From new moon to new moon [pagans also observed new moons - that's where months come from], from the nth day to the nth day [whatever they called the last day of the week], all flesh shall come to worship before me, declared the LORD" -- what would they understand? That the message is that they should take care to observe the end of the week, or that all flesh shall worship God all the time?

Or didn't you wonder what a "new moon" would be if there was never any night (Rev. 22:5), or how it would be observed in a city that "does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it" (21:23)?

The Jewish month was based on the cycles of the moon, while the weekly cycle is based on the 7 day cycle that originated in Genesis, with the Sabbath taking place on the 7th day. When God says Sabbath He means Sabbath! Don't try to complicate something that is simple. Remember, truth is simple, while error is complex.
 
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BrightCandle said:
The last church on earth is symbolically portrayed as lukewarn in the book of Revelation. Lukewarm Christians are not legalistic, they are live a life full of compromise, exactly what we see in the North America today, Christians who talk the talk, but who don't walk the walk! That's why Jesus said "Remember" when it comes to the Sabbath, and He also said: If you love me, keep my commandments."

As per Romans 3:25-29

25Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker. 28A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.

This passage describes what I affectionatelly call: "Drugstore Christians". Just as "drugstore cowboys" dress and act the part in a drugstore, they couldn't ride a horse or rope a calf if their life depended on it. They might wear the hat, the jeans, the boots, the buckle--but, they are not cowboys. They are pretenders. Sadly today, there are many pretenders in the church(es)! They talk the talk, they work the work. They teach the word! But, they're just pretenders.
They 'pretend' to be righteous, by condeming adultry, yet they go out and************** (Rom 2:22) The world hasn't changed! Men are the same. A simple reading of Proverbs will prove that!
 
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