Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

[YahwehisHisname]

Am I to understand that you believe that Jesus offered the souls of men to appease the Father ??

No. I won't waste my time explaining the answer further.

This is even more incredible (and heterodox) than the belief that Christ sacrificed Himself to appease an Angry God. Nor did Christ sacrifice His soul. Your doctrines are unorthodox in the extreme.


If you have a question, ask it, but for you to jump to conclusions and affix labels without knowing the slightest bit of background information is telling. You have probably never even heard of the Miqra, and certainly do not understand how it fits into the picture of mankind's plan of redemption Yahweh painted for us through His 7 annual meetings, yet you are arrogant enough to pronounce that which you are ignorant of, "incredible" and Heterodox". This was the foundation I had to shed when I was ignorantly proclaiming that there was no god a few years back. How ironic

 

[johnd]

1. they do not understand the purpose of the decalogue

The ten commandments were the beginning of the Law of Moses.

Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Romans 3:31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

2. that rigid obedience to the decalogue is not required

It is the initial portion of the Law of Moses expressed to convict the world of sin. No one other than Jesus Christ was able to perfectly obey the Law (ten commandments, and the Sanhedrin actually found 613 commandments in the whole Law, if you are going down that path)

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Furthermore, the Sabbath day of the week was a shadow of things to come (Hebrews 10:1) namely the Sabbath AGE in which we now live.
I am not against Sabbath worship / observance or Sunday or any day or night of the week. In the Sabbath Age, it's all on the Sabbath anyway.

 

[YahwehisHisname]

I would love to respond to Johnd's post, but unfortunately I must go. I hope someone goes through it.

 

[kw5kw]

Do you still, after all I've said here, think that I keep the Sabbath because I'm worried about my salvation? Then you've missed the point of all I've said. Let me repeat it once more: I do NOT keep the Sabbath in order to be saved. I keep it because God has already saved me through Jesus' sacrifice. I keep it in remembrance of His creative, redemptive, finished work. My Sabbath-keeping is a result of my salvation--not a prerequisite. Not works-righteousness--loving obedience.

Do you keep Saturday or Sunday as your Sabbath?
As a Reformed Protestant - Southern Baptist actually, as much as a fundamentalist as I can be and still be an Old Earth Creationist, I keep Sunday as to honor my Lord's resurrection from the grave.

 

[BrightCandle]

1. they do not understand the purpose of the decalogue

The ten commandments were the beginning of the Law of Moses.

Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Romans 3:31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

2. that rigid obedience to the decalogue is not required

It is the initial portion of the Law of Moses expressed to convict the world of sin. No one other than Jesus Christ was able to perfectly obey the Law (ten commandments, and the Sanhedrin actually found 613 commandments in the whole Law, if you are going down that path)

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Furthermore, the Sabbath day of the week was a shadow of things to come (Hebrews 10:1) namely the Sabbath AGE in which we now live.
I am not against Sabbath worship / observance or Sunday or any day or night of the week. In the Sabbath Age, it's all on the Sabbath anyway.

Let me ask you a few questions:

1. Why did Jesus have to die for our sins if the Ten Commandments could have been changed?

2. The Bible defines sin as "lawlessness" see I John 3:4, therefore if what you have stated above is true, then are we now free to continue in lawlessness, now that Jesus died for our sins?

3. Hebrews 4:9 uses a capital "S" for "Sabbath" in the two most literal English translations the NASB and the ESV, denoting the 7th day Sabbath, not a ceremonial sabbath or age of sabbath rest. Literally meaning a Sabbath keeping as been left for the people of God in the last days. Which is exactly the SDA position. And if as you stated above, we are indeed living in the "Sabbath Age", why not keep the 7th day Sabbath every week, as the 4th Commandment clearly states, as written in stone by the finger of Jesus?

 

[Oblio]

Why did Jesus have to die for our sins if the Ten Commandments could have been changed?

Because it is not the failure to keep them that Christ saved us from. You have the cart before the horse. The Law does not save, cannot save, therefore changing the Law cannot, nor could it save us.

 

[ThreeAM]

The 7th day was made Holy before sin occured. Why would sin and the solution for sin...Christ....change the Sabbath?

 

[JimfromOhio]

The 7th day was made Holy before sin occured. Why would sin and the solution for sin...Christ....change the Sabbath?

By being legalist or be following the law from the heart? Ritual traditions are just that, action without the heart. True Sabbath is to be from the heart rather than legalism. Every 7th day, people will rest because they are allowed to work 6 days a week. The first SEVEN days happened when God created the earth and we didn't even have a calendar until much later.

 

[ThreeAM]

By being legalist or be following the law from the heart? Ritual traditions are just that, action without the heart. True Sabbath is to be from the heart rather than legalism. Every 7th day, people will rest because they are allowed to work 6 days a week. The first SEVEN days happened when God created the earth and we didn't even have a calendar until much later.

Then why would God give Manna six days a week and non on the 7th for 40 years. Marraige is ritual tradition given to us by God in Eden should we not be legalistic about that as well? Perharps male to male or female to female marraige is OK by your reasoning?

Also God only made the 7th day Holy not days 1-6. If they all to be held Holy or not Holy intermittantly then He should not have with held Manna on the 7th day ONLY.

 

[JimfromOhio]

The why would God give Manna six days a week and non on the 7th for 40 years. Marraige is ritual tradition given to us by God in Eden should we not be legalistic about that as well? Perharps male to male or female to female marraige is OK by your reasoning?

Ritual, traditional, legalistic and ceremonial laws:
Mark 10:5
"It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law"

Old Testament: Law
New Testament: Grace

We follow the sabbath but not as traditional ceremonial as like the Pharisees did.

Don't see how the marriage issue relates to Sabbath but if you want to argue about same-sex marriage, you can start a new thread and I will say "God created man & woman and they are to cleave". This is no law but God's created image how we should live.

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

In the Old Testament, it mentioned what foods we can and cannot eat and how those foods must be prepared and eaten. In the New Testament, "What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy." This mean that the meats formerly considered unclean were now cleansed. (Read Acts, Chapter 10). Under the old testament LAW cannot eat certain food (example: pork) however under the new testament GRACE, we can eat pork.

The New Testament (Reference: Book of Galatians, Chapter 5) speaks about the believer's freedom or liberty in Christ, but what exactly does this mean biblically speaking for the Christian? Christian liberty means the power to do as we ought by God's enablement in accordance with the way Christians have been recreated in Christ. True liberty means the freedom to be all that we were designed to be, but this is not a freedom that is without restrictions or responsibilities. Plainly speaking, without law, there could be no freedom.

"One of the marks of maturity is the ability to disagree without becoming disagreeable. It takes grace. In fact, handling disagreements with tact is one of the crowning achievements of grace." Chuck Swindoll

Charles Swindoll paraphrases the main points of Romans 14 in his book "The Grace Awakening:"
"Nothing that is not specifically designated as evil in Scripture is evil but rather a matter of one's personal preference or taste. So let it be. Even if you personally would not do what another is doing, let it be. And you who feel the freedom to do so, don't flaunt it or mock those who disagree. We are in the construction business, not destruction. And let's all remember that God's big-picture kingdom plan is not being shaped by small things like what one person prefers over another, but by large things, like righteousness and peace and joy."

We don't want to be a legalistic about our Christian daily life at the same time we don't want to abuse our Christian liberty. Christian Legalists cannot change a heart, it tries to control people with laws and expectations that are not even kept by the religionists who interpret and apply the rules. With this "burden factor" in mind, Jesus said, "Woe to you also, lawyers [experts in religious law]! For you load men with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers" (Luke 11:46). Religion is good at describing high standards of right behavior and relationships, but poor at giving real and merciful help to those who realize they have not lived up to those expectations.

We have to understand that God saves people even though they are yet sinners (Rom.5:1-11). However, He does not simply leave them in their sins, but rather, forgives their sins and imputes to them the righteousness of Christ (Rom. 4). God wants us to declare ourselves alive in the Spirit, confession that there is a new life within us. "If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit." Galatians 5:25. We are not only to live the deadness of our old life, we are also to recognize the new person who lives within us. The Holy Spirit dwells in us with all the power and gifts of God, necessary to enable us to walk the noble, spiritual, Son-like life with God.

By grace He brings them into the family of God and starts the process of transforming them into the image of Jesus Christ (Rom. 8:28,29). The Biblical process of solving personality and behavioral problems begins with God's Word revealing our hearts (James 1:21-25, Heb. 4:12). At that point we can then go to the real Christ for grace, mercy and help (Heb. 4:13-16). Then as the real Holy Spirit ministers in our lives through the Word of God, we will grow in abundant life and godliness (II Pet. 1:3) and become adequate for every good work (II Tim. 3:16,17). Read Romans Chapters 12, 13, 14 and 15 and Book of Galatians because they teach believers to have a real relationship with God. You can enjoy living a Christian life without being a legalist. Have a relationship with Jesus Christ, your Lord and Savior.

 

[ThreeAM]

Ritual, traditional, legalistic and ceremonial laws:
Mark 10:5
"It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law"

Old Testament: Law
New Testament: Grace

We follow the sabbath but not as traditional ceremonial as like the Pharisees did.

Don't see how the marriage issue relates to Sabbath but if you want to argue about same-sex marriage, you can start a new thread and I will say "God created man & woman and they are to cleave". This is no law but God's created image how we should live.

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

In the Old Testament, it mentioned what foods we can and cannot eat and how those foods must be prepared and eaten. In the New Testament, "What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy." This mean that the meats formerly considered unclean were now cleansed. (Read Acts, Chapter 10). Under the old testament LAW cannot eat certain food (example: pork) however under the new testament GRACE, we can eat pork.

The New Testament (Reference: Book of Galatians, Chapter 5) speaks about the believer's freedom or liberty in Christ, but what exactly does this mean biblically speaking for the Christian? Christian liberty means the power to do as we ought by God's enablement in accordance with the way Christians have been recreated in Christ. True liberty means the freedom to be all that we were designed to be, but this is not a freedom that is without restrictions or responsibilities. Plainly speaking, without law, there could be no freedom.

"One of the marks of maturity is the ability to disagree without becoming disagreeable. It takes grace. In fact, handling disagreements with tact is one of the crowning achievements of grace." Chuck Swindoll

Charles Swindoll paraphrases the main points of Romans 14 in his book "The Grace Awakening:"
"Nothing that is not specifically designated as evil in Scripture is evil but rather a matter of one's personal preference or taste. So let it be. Even if you personally would not do what another is doing, let it be. And you who feel the freedom to do so, don't flaunt it or mock those who disagree. We are in the construction business, not destruction. And let's all remember that God's big-picture kingdom plan is not being shaped by small things like what one person prefers over another, but by large things, like righteousness and peace and joy."

We don't want to be a legalistic about our Christian daily life at the same time we don't want to abuse our Christian liberty. Christian Legalists cannot change a heart, it tries to control people with laws and expectations that are not even kept by the religionists who interpret and apply the rules. With this "burden factor" in mind, Jesus said, "Woe to you also, lawyers [experts in religious law]! For you load men with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers" (Luke 11:46). Religion is good at describing high standards of right behavior and relationships, but poor at giving real and merciful help to those who realize they have not lived up to those expectations.

We have to understand that God saves people even though they are yet sinners (Rom.5:1-11). However, He does not simply leave them in their sins, but rather, forgives their sins and imputes to them the righteousness of Christ (Rom. 4). God wants us to declare ourselves alive in the Spirit, confession that there is a new life within us. "If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit." Galatians 5:25. We are not only to live the deadness of our old life, we are also to recognize the new person who lives within us. The Holy Spirit dwells in us with all the power and gifts of God, necessary to enable us to walk the noble, spiritual, Son-like life with God.

By grace He brings them into the family of God and starts the process of transforming them into the image of Jesus Christ (Rom. 8:28,29). The Biblical process of solving personality and behavioral problems begins with God's Word revealing our hearts (James 1:21-25, Heb. 4:12). At that point we can then go to the real Christ for grace, mercy and help (Heb. 4:13-16). Then as the real Holy Spirit ministers in our lives through the Word of God, we will grow in abundant life and godliness (II Pet. 1:3) and become adequate for every good work (II Tim. 3:16,17). Read Romans Chapters 12, 13, 14 and 15 and Book of Galatians because they teach believers to have a real relationship with God. You can enjoy living a Christian life without being a legalist. Have a relationship with Jesus Christ, your Lord and Savior.

You never answered my orginal question

 

[JimfromOhio]

You never answered my orginal question

See Post Number 658 regarding the cycle of 7 days

I wonder how many loan contracts are for 7 years or less? Deuteronomy 15:1 [ The Year for Canceling Debts ] At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts. If we are going to be legalistic about this, we should have all loan contracts to the minimum of 7 years. No more.

 

[JimfromOhio]

See Post Number 658 regarding the cycle of 7 days

I wonder how many loan contracts are for 7 years or less? Deuteronomy 15:1 [ The Year for Canceling Debts ] At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts. If we are going to be legalistic about this, we should have all loan contracts to the minimum of 7 years. No more.

Also see my post # 654 in the same link.

 

[ThreeAM]

See Post Number 658 regarding the cycle of 7 days

I wonder how many loan contracts are for 7 years or less? Deuteronomy 15:1 [ The Year for Canceling Debts ] At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts. If we are going to be legalistic about this, we should have all loan contracts to the minimum of 7 years. No more.

They had loans before sin in the Garden of Eden????????

 

[kw5kw]

See Post Number 658 regarding the cycle of 7 days

I wonder how many loan contracts are for 7 years or less? Deuteronomy 15:1 [ The Year for Canceling Debts ] At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts. If we are going to be legalistic about this, we should have all loan contracts to the minimum of 7 years. No more.

That'd make for some really 'healthy' house payments, wouldn't it?

 

[kw5kw]

Hebrews 4:9 uses a capital "S" for "Sabbath" in the two most literal English translations the NASB and the ESV, denoting the 7th day Sabbath, not a ceremonial sabbath or age of sabbath rest. Literally meaning a Sabbath keeping as been left for the people of God in the last days. Which is exactly the SDA position. And if as you stated above, we are indeed living in the "Sabbath Age", why not keep the 7th day Sabbath every week, as the 4th Commandment clearly states, as written in stone by the finger of Jesus?

In the original (GNT below) Greek, it (the New Testament) was all written in ALL CAPS!

Your argument is mute. For the other translators, it was a personal preference, either individually or by a committee it was a 'human' decision on which way to go. The most 'popular' version of all time -- the KJV -- didn't even use the word 'sabbath'!


For instance:

Heb 4:9
(ALT) So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
(ASV) There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
(BBE) So that there is still a Sabbath-keeping for the people of God.
(Bishops) There remayneth therfore yet a rest to the people of God.
(CEV) But God has promised us a Sabbath when we will rest, even though it has not yet come.
(Darby) There remains then a sabbatism to the people of God.
(DRB) There remaineth therefore a day of rest for the people of God.
(EMTV) Then there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
(ESV) So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
(GB) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(Geneva) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(GNB) As it is, however, there still remains for God's people a rest like God's resting on the seventh day.
(GNT)ἄρα ἀπολείπεται σαββατισμὸς τῷ λαῷ τοῦ Θεοῦ.
(GW) Therefore, a time of rest and worship exists for God's people.
(HCSB) A Sabbath rest remains, therefore, for God's people.
(HNV) There remains therefore a Shabbat rest for the people of God.
(ISV) There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
(JPS)
(KJV) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(KJV+) There remaineth620 therefore686 a rest4520 to the3588 people2992 of God.2316
(KJV-1611) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(KJVA) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(KJVR) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(LITV) So, then, there remains a sabbath rest to the people of God.

(MKJV) So then there remains a rest to the people of God.
(MRC) There remains therefore a Shabbat-keeping for the people of God.
(MSG) The promise of "arrival" and "rest" is still there for God's people.
(Murdock) Therefore it is established, that the people of God are to have a sabbath.
(NIV) There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;
(Vulgate) itaque relinquitur sabbatismus populo Dei
(WEB) There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
(Webster) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(WNT) It follows that there still remains a sabbath rest for the people of God.
(YLT) there doth remain, then, a sabbatic rest to the people of God,

And, from Robertson's Word Pictures:
Heb 4:9 -
A sabbath rest (σαββατισμὸς = sabbatismos). Late word from sabbatizō (Exo 16:30) to keep the Sabbath, apparently coined by the author (a doubtful passage in Plutarch). Here it is parallel with katapausis (cf. Rev 14:13).
For the people of God (tōi laōi tou theou). Dative case of blessed personal interest to the true Israel (Gal 6:16).

 

[ThreeAM]

In the original (GNT below) Greek, it (the New Testament) was all written in ALL CAPS!

Your argument is mute. For the other translators, it was a personal preference, either individually or by a committee it was a 'human' decision on which way to go.


For instance:

Heb 4:9
(ALT) So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
(ASV) There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
(BBE) So that there is still a Sabbath-keeping for the people of God.
(Bishops) There remayneth therfore yet a rest to the people of God.
(CEV) But God has promised us a Sabbath when we will rest, even though it has not yet come.
(Darby) There remains then a sabbatism to the people of God.
(DRB) There remaineth therefore a day of rest for the people of God.
(EMTV) Then there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
(ESV) So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
(GB) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(Geneva) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(GNB) As it is, however, there still remains for God's people a rest like God's resting on the seventh day.
(GNT)ἄρα ἀπολείπεται σαββατισμὸς τῷ λαῷ τοῦ Θεοῦ.
(GW) Therefore, a time of rest and worship exists for God's people.
(HCSB) A Sabbath rest remains, therefore, for God's people.
(HNV) There remains therefore a Shabbat rest for the people of God.
(ISV) There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
(JPS)
(KJV) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(KJV+) There remaineth620 therefore686 a rest4520 to the3588 people2992 of God.2316
(KJV-1611) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(KJVA) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(KJVR) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(LITV) So, then, there remains a sabbath rest to the people of God.

(MKJV) So then there remains a rest to the people of God.
(MRC) There remains therefore a Shabbat-keeping for the people of God.
(MSG) The promise of "arrival" and "rest" is still there for God's people.
(Murdock) Therefore it is established, that the people of God are to have a sabbath.
(NIV) There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;
(Vulgate) itaque relinquitur sabbatismus populo Dei
(WEB) There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
(Webster) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
(WNT) It follows that there still remains a sabbath rest for the people of God.
(YLT) there doth remain, then, a sabbatic rest to the people of God,

And, from Robertson's Word Pictures:
Heb 4:9 -
A sabbath rest (σαββατισμὸς = sabbatismos). Late word from sabbatizō (Exo 16:30) to keep the Sabbath, apparently coined by the author (a doubtful passage in Plutarch). Here it is parallel with katapausis (cf. Rev 14:13).
For the people of God (tōi laōi tou theou). Dative case of blessed personal interest to the true Israel (Gal 6:16).

RSV Hebrews 4:9-10 So then, there remains a sabbath rest for the people of God;for whoever enters God's rest also ceases from his labors as God did from his.

And How did God rest from His Labors?


Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

We just need to follow God's example.

 

[kw5kw]

The 'quirk' about this whole argument is:
The words using the names of the week never appear in the Bible.
Nowhere will you find these words:
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday or Saturday.

The only references are:
The first day of the week, cf Mark 16:9; John 20:1, 19; Matt 28:1; Mark 16:1,2; Acts 20:7 Now on the first [day] of the week [i.e. Sunday], the disciples having been gathered together to break bread, Paul began holding a discussion with them, being about to be departing the next day, and he kept prolonging the word [fig., discussion] until midnight.
; 1Co 16:1,2 Now concerning the collection, the [one] for the holy ones, just as I gave instructions to the assemblies of Galatia, in the same way also _you*_ must be doing. On every first [day] of [the] week [i.e. every Sunday], let each one of you* be putting aside [something], storing up [or, saving] whatever he shall be prospering, so that when I come, at that time, collections shall not be taking place.
and Rev 1:10


The last day of the week, the Sabbath day is, as we all know, all through the Holy Scriptures.

 

[JimfromOhio]

They had loans before sin in the Garden of Eden????????

Wow you are that literal. !!

 

[ThreeAM]

The 'quirk' about this whole argument is:
The words using the names of the week never appear in the Bible.
Nowhere will you find these words:
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday or Saturday.

The only references are:
The first day of the week, cf Mark 16:9; John 20:1, 19; Matt 28:1; Mark 16:1,2; Acts 20:7 Now on the first [day] of the week [i.e. Sunday], the disciples having been gathered together to break bread, Paul began holding a discussion with them, being about to be departing the next day, and he kept prolonging the word [fig., discussion] until midnight.
; 1Co 16:1,2 Now concerning the collection, the [one] for the holy ones, just as I gave instructions to the assemblies of Galatia, in the same way also _you*_ must be doing. On every first [day] of [the] week [i.e. every Sunday], let each one of you* be putting aside [something], storing up [or, saving] whatever he shall be prospering, so that when I come, at that time, collections shall not be taking place.
and Rev 1:10


The last day of the week, the Sabbath day is, as we all know, all through the Holy Scriptures.

Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.8 And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together....9 .And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead. 10. And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him. 11 When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.

What is interesting about these verses is the lights were on and it was dark and the bread was actually broken after midnight. Obviously this means this meeting took place later saturday night. If the meeting were Sunday night as some contend then and after midnight Lord's supper would have been on monday.

Some contend Acts 20:7 is the cookie cutter patten for typical Christian Church services. Hardly! This was an unusual Church service that took place because Paul was leaving the Next Sunday morning for a 20+ mile hike. If Paul followed His custom he preached Sabbath and they gather one last time for a final meeting with Paul that night before he departed in the morning.

1 Cor 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

The interesting points of 1Cor 16:2 is the greek does not support the use of the word "every" as your translation suggested. The verse say "let evey one of you" making this an individualized order not a group order. The Greek literally say lay by HIMSELF in store.

This is hardly a group collection at church but rather Paul's order for an individual to store up money by HIMSELF in a systematic fashion so he would not have to try to raise the funds when Paul Came. Not this verse saays nothing about assembling the church, nothing about reading scripturs, nothing about preaching, nothing about prayer, nothing about breaking bread etc. etc.