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Why worry about global warming?

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Great idea! You and your fundamentalist kind, please just focus on your impending journey to heaven, and us rational non-believers and believers (you must remember the majority of christians don't believe in the rapture) alike will govern this world as best we can.

All Christians believe that Jesus will return and that we will be with Him. While on earth, some Christians have feet, and a vote, and maybe even some cash in some cases. It would suit me fine if there were whole sheaths and states full of just your kind. It would make things easier. Funny, that is precisely what God is waiting for, a harvest.

Oh and don't worry, we want this world to thrive and survive, so you will all be safe while you are waiting for your saviour.
Won't we all....

And please, gravitate where ever you would like, but you'll quickly find that with very few scientists and a shortage of doctors, your side will likely be the one that is "diseased".
I couldn't care less what so called science swallowers take a do.
 
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No, all christians do not believe jesus will come down after the anti-christ is enters the dome of the rock that will bring forth a 7 year "tribulation" of war, famine, pestilence and death, where the 400,000 or so of christ's apparent "true believers" will be spared and ascend to heaven while the rest remain on earth to perish and be sucked into the abyss of hell.
No, not all christians believe in the rapture.
Yes they do. No choice. Jesus said He would come again.

Won't we all what, be safe? Not with believers of the rapture like you in charge. You'd more likely try to initiate war in the middle east to "accelerate the events of the rapture, which would no doubt turn nuclear.

Not me. I vote you end the wars you did start already. Neither will we be in charge here. Maybe influential in some states or countries etc. Like believers were in the US once. After all did they not used to pray to God in school?




What?! That doesn't even make sense
Well, in other words if there were a few godly states and I moved to one, I would not care if so called scientists moved there or not.
 
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Yes they do. No choice. Jesus said He would come again.

Not really. there are lots of Christians who take historical or even allegorical views of revelations and associated passages. Both the catholic church and eastern orthodox churches by and large take a more allegorical view. The return of Christ has broad support, but not all the other nonsense that has been read into it all.
 
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Go on. Name 1 war caused or started by an athiest / agnostic.

Name one such king or leader that didn't claim some belief?

I can name 2 recently that were started by fundamental religious. Iraq and afghanistan.
Now you go

I disagree.
 
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[serious];58450148 said:
Not really. there are lots of Christians who take historical or even allegorical views of revelations and associated passages. Both the catholic church and eastern orthodox churches by and large take a more allegorical view. The return of Christ has broad support, but not all the other nonsense that has been read into it all.

That depends on what other stuff you tack on. He shall return. He shall stand on the mount of Olives. He will rule the earth. He will slay the wicked. He will....add any and all prophetic scriptures here.....
 
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No, all christians do not believe jesus will come down after the anti-christ is enters the dome of the rock that will bring forth a 7 year "tribulation" of war, famine, pestilence and death, where the 400,000 or so of christ's apparent "true believers" will be spared and ascend to heaven while the rest remain on earth to perish and be sucked into the abyss of hell.
No, not all christians believe in the rapture.
At the rapture we find out who are the real christians. Those who are left behind were in bed with the world and so they will have to endure the same as the world. "Friendship With the World is Enmity With God"

We know who is a son of God because He chastens true sons.

7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9 Heb 12
 
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I'm not sure if global warming exists or not, but Al Gore seems to think it does. He's probably right though, cause it would fit in with the bible. The rapture is coming. We shouldn't worry tho because Jesus is going to take all the believers to heaven. Why can't science understand this? It don't matter if the planet dies because there will be noone left on it! :angel:
First of all you have to understand that Science deals with the physical world while religion is purely faith based.
Secondly what Al Gore believes is irrelevant to science. Global warming is a climate change and this is the norm for planet Earth. What scientists and Al Gore are saying is that human activity has influenced the degree of change both in severity and speed.

Hurricanes need energy in order to exist and they take this energy in the form of heat from the oceans. The warmer the climate the stronger the hurricanes will be and I need not remind you how devastating a force 5 hurricane will be if one were to reach New York!

If you believe in the rapture then it is your personal choice, but I and Billions of others do not share your death wish and subsequently care what happens to this planet.
 
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At the rapture we find out who are the real christians. Those who are left behind were in bed with the world and so they will have to endure the same as the world. "Friendship With the World is Enmity With God"

We know who is a son of God because He chastens true sons.

7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9 Heb 12
I am too old to be frightened by bogeymen! I am sure that you can do better than to try to frighten adults into accepting what you believe in.

Kool Aid just does not do it for me. I prefer to lead a decent and honest life!

Thanks anyway but no thanks!

Have a pleasant day :wave:
 
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I don't think he sold many albums. He was Prime Minister of the UK.
So what did he do, cause global warming?...why mention the dead guy?

Wars are caused by sin. So it behoves us to look beyond what tee shirt some war monger wears, that has some religion on it. I don't see the present US leader getting out of all wars...on the contrary...do you? So forget the tee shirt....
 
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Clement Attlee.

Missed a few:

Jiang Zemin
E. M. S. Namboodiripad
Lenin
Stalin
Gorbachev
Benito Mussolini
Santiago Casares Quiroga
James Callaghan KG
Alastair Campbell
Dimitris Christofias
Enver Hoxha
Aleksander Kwaśniewski
Alexander Lukashenko
Slobodan Milošević
Jens Stoltenberg
Janet Jagan
José Gaspar Rodríguez de Francia

Now, there are certainly some bad names on there, but I don't believe in cherry picking to drive home a point.

Also, since our friend doesn't seem to want to actually address the challenge of naming a war started by an atheist, I'll point out that many of the conflicts soviet russia were involved in (all the way back to the revolution) were under atheist leadership. There's other ones too, but that list isn't as easy to come up with as the list of atheist heads of state.
 
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I think science has a scare tactic for every generation.

The Red Scare, then overcrowding & depletion of planetary resources, then radon gas in the basement, asbestos in the attic and lead paint in between, now global warming.

Throw in a few Hale Bopps, a couple El Niños, some earth yanking syzygies, and an LIA for good measure, and who gives a Y2K?

Um, didn't all of those things actually happen or are currently happening?
 
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I am too old to be frightened by bogeymen!
You did not read your Bible. God does not give us the spirit of fear, He gives us power, love and a sound mind. Fear is a weapon of the enemy of God. Used to put people in bondage. God sets us free. The rapture is good news for the church. We have the promise of God that we will not be punished with the world for their sins.

Rom 1 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
 
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Is it time for your nap dad? I mentioned it because you asked:

Some also ran without a religion tee shirt? Wow. Fact is that no wars were started by Jesus, or me. How about Mao, or Stalin, or Lenin, or Trotsky, or Attila the hun..etc?
 
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