Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

[BeyondET]

please note sabbath(s) plurial.... the law of Moses had about 13 of them, i lost count. It does not mean the weekly sabbath part of the 10 commandment that are the covenant is not to be kept. Since Jesus, the 12 and Paul kept the Saturday sabbath it says a lot on the validity of the weekly sabbath!

The verse didn't say except for the weekly Sabbath. Sabbaths mean all not all but one.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The verse didn't say except for the weekly Sabbath. Sabbaths mean all not all but one.

It doesn't say all either its sabbath(s) in the plural, in the Sabbath commandment, it is the Sabbath Exo 20:8-11, the holy day of the Lord thy God Isa 58:13. After the fall of man, there were 7 annual feasts days that some were also sabbath(s) which means rest days. They didn't necessarily fall on the seventh day and had to do with food and drink offerings the context of this passage and were ordinances handwritten by Moses, the context of this passage which we also see in Eph 2:15 Heb 9:10 that all pointed to Jesus Heb 10:1-22

Paul was very careful to provide the context....which no one ever seems to quote for some reason.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Please provide one scripture where the Sabbath commandment was handwritten?
God called the Sabbath part of "My commandments" Exo 20:6 and "My covenant" Deut 4:13 not My ordinances
Where does it say in the bible that holy and blessed means contrary and against?

Please use scripture to answer these questions because Paul was very careful to ensure we knew the sabbath(s) he was referring to. Not something God started at Creation Exo 20:11 His perfect plan before the fall of man, that God wrote with His own finger Exo 31:18 that God blessed and made holy, that no man has the authority to reverse. Num 23:20 as if any man was above God.

Jesus in His own words told His faithful to pray forty years after the Cross that their flight would not be on the Sabbath day Mat 24:20 so Jesus expected His people to be keeping and will be keeping in God's new Kingdom thus saith the Lord Isa 66:23 because it was always God's plan for humanity, man will always need God's blessing Isa 56:2 and His sanctification Eze 20:12 because we can't sanctify ourselves Is 66:17 we need God Eze 20:20 and keeping the Sabbath so we know we are worshipping the God of Creation Exo 20:11 Rev 14:7. Not the one who changed God's times and laws we were warned about Dan 7:25

There is a reason we have this warning in scripture about Paul's writings 2 Peter3:15-16. Paul himself kept every Sabbath decades after the Cross because if we abide in Christ John15:4-6,10 we ought to follow His example 1 John 2:6. Jesus kept the Sabbath and all of the commandments and He is who we are to follow. He is the way, through no one else. John 14:6

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

The verse didn't say except for the weekly Sabbath. Sabbaths mean all not all but one.

I am preparing a study on the Sabbath so we know what GOD said about it. I will let you know when it is finished, hopefully this week, I think you will be surprised how important the weekly sabbath is and should not be dismissed

I will post it as a new thread so everyone has access in case they want to read it.

Peace.

 

[BeyondET]

It doesn't say all either its sabbath(s) in the plural, in the Sabbath commandment, it is the Sabbath Exo 20:8-11, the holy day of the Lord thy God Isa 58:13. After the fall of man, there were 7 annual feasts days that some were also sabbath(s) which means rest days. They didn't necessarily fall on the seventh day and had to do with food and drink offerings the context of this passage and were ordinances handwritten by Moses, the context of this passage which we also see in Eph 2:15 Heb 9:10 that all pointed to Jesus Heb 10:1-22

Paul was very careful to provide the context....which no one ever seems to quote for some reason.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Please provide one scripture where the Sabbath commandment was handwritten?
God called the Sabbath part of "My commandments" Exo 20:6 and "My covenant" Deut 4:13 not My ordinances
Where does it say in the bible that holy and blessed means contrary and against?

Please use scripture to answer these questions because Paul was very careful to ensure we knew the sabbath(s) he was referring to. Not something God started at Creation Exo 20:11 His perfect plan before the fall of man, that God wrote with His own finger Exo 31:18 that God blessed and made holy, that no man has the authority to reverse. Num 23:20 as if any man was above God.

Jesus in His own words told His faithful to pray forty years after the Cross that their flight would not be on the Sabbath day Mat 24:20 so Jesus expected His people to be keeping and will be keeping in God's new Kingdom thus saith the Lord Isa 66:23 because it was always God's plan for humanity, man will always need God's blessing Isa 56:2 and His sanctification Eze 20:12 because we can't sanctify ourselves Is 66:17 we need God Eze 20:20 and keeping the Sabbath so we know we are worshipping the God of Creation Exo 20:11 Rev 14:7. Not the one who changed God's times and laws we were warned about Dan 7:25

There is a reason we have this warning in scripture about Paul's writings 2 Peter3:15-16. Paul himself kept every Sabbath decades after the Cross because if we abide in Christ John15:4-6,10 we ought to follow His example 1 John 2:6. Jesus kept the Sabbath and all of the commandments and He is who we are to follow. He is the way, through no one else. John 14:6

Paul was careful that's why he says "was against us". It was taken away by nailing it to his cross.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Paul was careful that's why he says "was against us". It was taken away by nailing it to his cross.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

The Sabbath is holy and blessed by God Exo 20:8-11 Gen 2:1-3, God's holy day thus saith the Lord Isa 58:13 keeping shows He blesses us Isa 56:2 and how He sanctifies us Eze 20:12 and shows He is our Creator Exo 20:11 who we are only to worship Rev 14:7 and He is our God Eze 20:20 God kept Exo 20:11, Jesus kept Luke 4:16 and we are told to follow Him 1 John 2:6 why His saints will keep for eternity Isa 66:23.

Jesus never took the weekly Sabbath away after His cross Mat 24:20 Isa 66:23 hence why the apostles all kept for 30+ years after Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21 Acts 16:13 Acts 18:4

Not sure how one comes to the conclusion the Sabbath would be against us, Jesus said it was made for us Mark 2:27. Sounds like a doctrine from someone against God.

Would you care to find the verse where the Sabbath was handwritten and where God making holy, sanctified, blessed means contrary and against?

 

[BeyondET]

The Sabbath is holy and blessed by God Exo 20:8-11 Gen 2:1-3, keeping shows He blesses us Isa 56:2 and how He sanctifies us Eze 20:12 and shows He is our Creator Exo 20:11 who we are only to worship Rev 14:7 and He is our God Eze 20:20 God kept Exo 20:11, Jesus kept Luke 4:16 and His saints will keep for eternity Isa 66:23

Not sure how one comes to the conclusion that would be against. Sounds like a doctrine from someone against God.

Paul came to that conclusion when he said was against us. It was contrary.

 

[trophy33]

please note sabbath(s) plurial.... the law of Moses had about 13 of them, i lost count. It does not mean the weekly sabbath part of the 10 commandment that are the covenant is not to be kept. Since Jesus, the 12 and Paul kept the Saturday sabbath it says a lot on the validity of the weekly sabbath!

Of course it means the weekly Sabbath. Plural form of the word was used commonly for it. For example, Mt 12:1, Luke 4:31, Acts 20:7

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Paul came to that conclusion when he said was against us. It was contrary.

So Paul practiced for 30 years after the Cross and taught the Gentiles as well something that was contrary and against them? Paul is saying what God wrote with His own finger and blessed and made holy to sanctify man is contrary and against man? Basically, this is saying Paul is above God to countermand what Jesus taught, how Jesus lived, what Jesus in His own Words said His faithful would be doing. Jesus said to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, but you're claiming Paul has more authority than Jesus. God made the Sabbath at Creation before sin, so this was contrary and against man right from Creation? We must be serving a different god.

I think we need to be careful, there is a stern warning about this very thing 2 Peter3:15-16

 

[trophy33]

So Paul practiced for 30 years after the Cross and taught the Gentiles as well something that was contrary and against them? Paul is saying what God wrote with His own finger and blessed and made holy to sanctify man is contrary and against man? Basically, this is saying Paul is above God to countermand what Jesus taught, how Jesus lived, what Jesus in His own Words said His faithful would be doing.

I think we need to be careful, there is a stern warning about this very thing 2 Peter3:15-16

Paul did not teach Gentiles to keep the Mosaic Law. He actually told even Jews not to keep the Mosaic Law which was the point of the issue why he was in conflict with other apostles and had to go to Jerusalem.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Paul did not teach Gentiles to keep the Mosaic Law. He actually told even Jews not to keep the Mosaic Law which was the point of the issue why he was in conflict with other apostles and had to go to Jerusalem.

Where do you find "Moses" in these verses?

God wrote the Ten Commandments and said in the Ten Commandments
Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

You mistake the creation, Moses, for God, the Creator. God claimed the Ten Commandments as "My commandments" not the commandments of Moses. Moses is not God, God is not Moses.

Did Paul ever correct the Gentiles not to keep the Sabbath when they begged for more gospel preaching the next Sabbath because it was "contrary and against" them.


Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Of course not...

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

God's people keep God's commandments. The Sabbath is a commandment of God, thus saith the Lord. But you are free to believe what you want. All gets sorted out soon enough. God will never force one to worship Him on the Sabbath Isa 66:23 its why God's Judgement is a Judgement of love.

 

[BeyondET]

So Paul practiced for 30 years after the Cross and taught the Gentiles as well something that was contrary and against them? Paul is saying what God wrote with His own finger and blessed and made holy to sanctify man is contrary and against man? Basically, this is saying Paul is above God to countermand what Jesus taught, how Jesus lived, what Jesus in His own Words said His faithful would be doing. Jesus said to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, but you're claiming Paul has more authority than Jesus. God made the Sabbath at Creation before sin, so this was contrary and against man right from Creation? We must be serving a different god.

I think we need to be careful, there is a stern warning about this very thing 2 Peter3:15-16

What God wrote is still handwriting from His hand.

 

[trophy33]

Where do you find "Moses" in these verses?

God wrote the Ten Commandments and said in the Ten Commandments
Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

You mistake the creation, Moses, for God, the Creator. God claimed the Ten Commandments as "My commandments" not the commandments of Moses. Moses is not God, God is not Moses.

Did Paul ever correct the Gentiles not to keep the Sabbath when they begged for more gospel preaching the next Sabbath because it was "contrary and against" them.


Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Of course not...

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

God's people keep God's commandments. The Sabbath is a commandment of God, thus saith the Lord. But you are free to believe what you want. All gets sorted out soon enough. God will never force one to worship Him on the Sabbath Isa 66:23 its why God's Judgement is a Judgement of love.

Dont try to manipulate the issue, again. We are talking about Paul, not about whether there is the word "Moses" in Exodus 20:6.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

What God wrote is still handwriting from His hand.

Finger is not the hand. God wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger. God placed the Sabbath commandment in the same unit as only worship God and not to murder.

Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

Moses handwrote the law of Moses that was placed beside the ark as a witness against (contrary and against) and were ordinances the context of this passage, which is where the annual sabbath(s) were written.

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;


2 Cor 33:8 and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.”

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Dont try to manipulate the issue, again. We are talking about Paul, not about whether there is the word "Moses" in Exodus 20:6.

You claimed it was by Moses. I showed you what the bible actually teaches. You can choose to believe it or not.

 

[trophy33]

You claimed it was by Moses. I showed you what the bible actually teaches. You can choose to believe it or not.

No. I claimed that Paul did not teach the Mosaic Law to Gentiles. And that he even taught Jews not to keep it, which brought him to Jerusalem to discuss it with other apostles. Keep focus.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No. I claimed that Paul did not teach the Mosaic Law to Gentiles. And that he even taught Jews not to keep it, which brought him to Jerusalem to discuss it with other apostles. Keep focus.

Again, God wrote the Ten Commandments which includes the Sabbath commandment, never was it called the law of Moses, it was God's commandments, God's covenant. Even Moses gave credit to God Exo 32:16. Paul never taught anyone not to keep the weekly Sabbath commandment, , hence why they kept it weekly decades after the Cross, just as Jesus indicated His faithful would be doing.

Jesus is our example, never does it say we follow Jesus expect we can forget the one commandment God said Remember.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Dont try to manipulate the issue, again. We are talking about Paul, not about whether there is the word "Moses" in Exodus 20:6.

since when is saying the truth is manipulation? please read your bible you need to to this or will remain in your error.

 

[trophy33]

since when is saying the truth is manipulation?

For example in the situation I described.

please read your bible you need to to this or will remain in your error.

Says somebody who claims that the plural form of Sabbath does not mean the weekly Sabbath?

 

[trophy33]

Again, God wrote the Ten Commandments which includes the Sabbath commandment, never was it called the law of Moses, it was God's commandments, God's covenant. Even Moses gave credit to God Exo 32:16. Paul never taught anyone not to keep the weekly Sabbath commandment, , hence why they kept it weekly decades after the Cross, just as Jesus indicated His faithful would be doing.

Jesus is our example, never does it say we follow Jesus expect we can forget the one commandment God said Remember.

Again, I am not talking about who wrote the Ten Commandments. Keep focus and dont jump from one idea of yours to another in one post. I am talking about what Paul taught.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Where do you find "Moses" in these verses?

God wrote the Ten Commandments and said in the Ten Commandments
Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

You mistake the creation, Moses, for God, the Creator. God claimed the Ten Commandments as "My commandments" not the commandments of Moses. Moses is not God, God is not Moses.

Did Paul ever correct the Gentiles not to keep the Sabbath when they begged for more gospel preaching the next Sabbath because it was "contrary and against" them.


Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Of course not...

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

God's people keep God's commandments. The Sabbath is a commandment of God, thus saith the Lord. But you are free to believe what you want. All gets sorted out soon enough. God will never force one to worship Him on the Sabbath Isa 66:23 its why God's Judgement is a Judgement of love.

there is so many verses, like the ones you write here and elsewhere in your excellent posts, that clearly proves they all followed the sabbath command yet many still refuse see the truth of it.