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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

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there is so many verses, kike the ones you write here and elsewhere in your excellent posts, that clearly proves they all followed the sabbath command yet many still refuse see the truth of it.
Yes, its sad. All of God's commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 as if our perfect Savior could personally write an imperfect law that was against His creation right after He created man in His own image. This is an attack on God's character that sadly people can't seem to see.
 
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Finger is not the hand. God wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger. God placed the Sabbath commandment in the same unit as only worship God and not to murder.

Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

Moses handwrote the law of Moses that was placed beside the ark as a witness against (contrary and against) and were ordinances the context of this passage, which is where the annual sabbath(s) were written.

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;


2 Cor 33:8 and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.”
So the finger isn't part of the hand?, your just trying to avoid the truth, no one writes with their palm.
 
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there is so many verses, like the ones you write here and elsewhere in your excellent posts, that clearly proves they all followed the sabbath command yet many still refuse see the truth of it.
If you miss one weekly Sabbath there is no second chance.
 
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So the finger isn't part of the hand?, your just trying to avoid the truth, no one writes with their palm.
No the finger is not the hand. I would like to see man trying to write on stone with their finger. Moses handwrote on paper, God wrote with His finger on tablets of stone, then He wrote His law in our hearts Heb 8:10. You can choose to believe or not believe these scriptures.

The finger of God is the Holy Spirit Mat 12:28 Luke 11:20, and if you think the Holy Spirit is against us, I don't know what more I can say to convince you otherwise. The Holy Spirit is what helps us keeps God's commandments John 14:15-18, if we cooperate with Him.
 
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Why was the Law within the ark and what is the purpose of Christ's blood on the mercy seat?
I am not correcting anyone, but isn't the ark also called a coffin ? And the old and new Testaments, are they not the last will of that ?
They had to be repeated each year and still the hebrew people were only saved for that one point in time?
As I see it, the old Testament was dead, made void......you pick.
It's gone and a new Testament, or will of God was established when the only person who could do that. Jesus.

The OT has been replaced with a new and better way.
 
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Why was the Law within the ark and what is the purpose of Christ's blood on the mercy seat?
I am not correcting anyone, but isn't the ark also called a coffin ? And the old and new Testaments, are they not the last will of that ?
They had to be repeated each year and still the hebrew people were only saved for that one point in time?
As I see it, the old Testament was dead, made void......you pick.
It's gone and a new Testament, or will of God was established when the only person who could do that. Jesus.

The OT has been replaced with a new and better way.
The New Covenant is established on better promises Heb 8:6 not established on better or new laws. It still has God's law, just written on a better surface, from tablets of stone Exo 31:18 to tablets of the heart Heb 8:10 2 Cor 3:3 not based on our strength Exo 19:8 but on what God will do Heb 8:10 John 14:15-18 if we cooperate with Him. Why its still a sin to break the least of God's commandments even in the NT 1 John 3:4 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 Mat 5:19-30 and hence why Jesus kept and taught them and is our example to follow 1 John 2:6. The main laws that ended were what Moses wrote that was beside the ark that contained the earthy priesthood laws of animal sacrifice and other ceremonial laws that all pointed forward to the sacrifice of Jesus. Heb 10:1-22 What Jesus did not come to do was destroy His law why its still a sin to worship other gods, murder, covet or break His holy Sabbath day. We do not keep these things to save us, we keep them because we love Jesus and want to abide in Him and in order to do this, we must follow how Jesus lived and what He taught. John 15:4-6, 10, 1 John 2:6 Rev 14:12

The purpose of Christ's blood on the mercy seat is He is the Lamb that takes away the sins of man. Rev 5:12 John 1:29 and it tells us right in the Ten Commandments who He gives mercy to

Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Our salvation is from sin Mat 1:21 we are not saved in our sins Heb 10:26-30 Pro 28:13 Sin is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 His version, not what man changed we were told not to as if man is above God. God Creates us in His image which the Sabbath points to Eze 20:20 Exo 2:11 and then re-Creates us through His sanctification Eze 20:12. Jesus does not only save us from the penalty of sin., He saved us from the power of sin, if we allow Him to work through us, obeying Him through faith and love. John 14:14 John 15:10 1 John 5:3 Exo 20:6
 
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No the finger is not the hand. I would like to see man trying to write on stone with their finger. Moses handwrote on paper, God wrote with His finger on tablets of stone, then He wrote His law in our hearts Heb 8:10. You can choose to believe or not believe these scriptures.

The finger of God is the Holy Spirit Mat 12:28 Luke 11:20, and if you think the Holy Spirit is against us, I don't know what more I can say to convince you otherwise. The Holy Spirit is what helps us keeps God's commandments John 14:15-18, if we cooperate with Him.
You can choose not to believe the finger is part of the hand.

You have to honor the whole weekly Sabbath law, you have to kill those who disobey it. You can't have part of the commandments and forget about the other commandments pertaining to the weekly Sabbath. I'm a 100% confident you haven't honored every weekly Sabbath in your life.
 
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You can choose not to believe the finger is part of the hand.
I never said it wasn't part of the hand, but its not the same. When I write something on paper I handwrite, I do not write on paper with my finger. Thats why they call it handwriting. Not finger writing. So not the same, look it up, the difference between the finger and the hand.
You have to honor the whole weekly Sabbath law, you have to kill those who disobey it. You can't have part of the commandments and forget about the other commandments pertaining to the weekly Sabbath. I'm a 100% confident you haven't honored every weekly Sabbath in your life.
The Sabbath commandment is not treated any differently than only worshipping God, or lying. James 2:10-12 If we break any of His commandments without repenting and turning from sin Pro 28:13 we have this to look forward to Heb 10:26-30. We are not saved in our sins, Jesus came to save us from sin Mat 1:21 and He lived not just take away the penalty of sin, which we have to confess, repent and turn from, He came to save us from the power of sin and lived to show us the way by example, our example 1 Peter 2:21-22 1 John 2:6. Sadly, not everyone wants to come to the light to God's Truth as we are told John 3:19-21 all of His commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 even the one that God blessed, made holy and told us to Remember, because He knew everyone would forget.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree and all will sort itself out soon enough. I wish you well.
 
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I never said it wasn't part of the hand, but its not the same. When I write something on paper I handwrite, I do not write on paper with my finger. Thats why they call it handwriting. Not finger writing. So not the same, look it up, the difference between the finger and the hand.

The Sabbath commandment is not treated any differently than only worshipping God, or lying. James 2:10-12 If we break any of His commandments without repenting and turning from sin Pro 28:13 we have this to look forward to Heb 10:26-30. We are not saved in our sins, Jesus came to save us from sin Mat 1:21 and He lived not just take away the penalty of sin, which we have to confess, repent and turn from, He came to save us from the power of sin and lived to show us the way by example, our example 1 Peter 2:21-22 1 John 2:6. Sadly, not everyone wants to come to the light to God's Truth as we are told John 3:19-21 all of His commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 even the one that God blessed, made holy and told us to Remember, because He knew everyone would forget.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree and all will sort itself out soon enough. I wish you well.
Isn't God writing through the hands of the writers of His word?


If you try and abide by all the OT commandments. You have to Include the ones that require killing people for breaking commandments. There is no repenting and turning from breaking any of the commandments if you try and obey them all.

Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Wish me well? Hope your not leaving or anything, I have enjoyed our conversation my friend.
 
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If you try and abide by all the OT commandments. You have to Include the ones that require killing people for breaking commandments. There is no repenting and turning from breaking any of the commandments if you try and obey them all.

Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Wish me well? Hope your not leaving or anything, I have enjoyed our conversation my friend.
This is where understanding the difference of the laws really helps.

What law is Paul referring to:

Gal 3:10 Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

So what was written in the Book of the law held all the curses and blessing for breaking God’s commandments hence why it was a witness against i.e. contrary and against

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

Also, breaking the Sabbath was not the only commandment that came with the death penalty in the OT. So did committing adultery so did murder. I hope you do not think these things are okay to do today as well.

Jesus came to take away the curse, which is death, the penalty of sin which is breaking God’s law is death Rom 6:23 but Jesus gives us another option, that is to be reborn in Him, walking and abiding in Him but that comes with obeying His commandments, just as He did John 15:10 1 John 2:6

In the OC they were under a theocracy. We are in the NC now and judgement for sin, is on the last day. John 12:48 Once Jesus comes all decision will be final Rev 22:11 Rev 22:14-15 Mat 7:21-23

I have enjoyed the conversation as well but I don’t think we are going to agree. Only a thus saith the Lord that we don’t have to obey one of God‘s finger-written commandments and I have searched the scripture high and low and not one verse says this, but God over and over again saying if you love Me, keep My commandments, don’t profane my Sabbath because it really profanes God Eze 22:26 and the gift and sign He made for mankind.
 
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This is where understanding the difference of the laws really helps.

What law is Paul referring to:



So what was written in the Book of the law held all the curses and blessing for breaking God’s commandments hence why it was a witness against i.e. contrary and against

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

Also, breaking the Sabbath was not the only commandment that came with the death penalty in the OT. So did committing adultery so did murder. I hope you do not think these things are okay to do today as well.

Jesus came to take away the curse, which is death, the penalty of sin which is breaking God’s law is death Rom 6:23 but Jesus gives us another option, that is to be reborn in Him, walking and abiding in Him but that comes with obeying His commandments, just as He did John 15:10 1 John 2:6

In the OC they were under a theocracy. We are in the NC now and judgement for sin, is on the last day. John 12:48 Once Jesus comes all decision will be final Rev 22:11 Rev 22:14-15 Mat 7:21-23

I have enjoyed the conversation as well but I don’t think we are going to agree. Only a thus saith the Lord that we don’t have to obey one of God‘s finger-written commandments and I have searched the scripture high and low and not one verse says this, but God over and over again saying if you love Me, keep My commandments, don’t profane my Sabbath because it really profanes God Eze 22:26 and the gift and sign He made for mankind.
What do you think is the habit? Who was making meetings a habit? It is what you quoted Hebrews 10 26-30

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

The day approaching is the Sabbath.
 
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What do you think is the habit? Who was making meetings a habit? It is what you quoted Hebrews 10 26-30

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

The day approaching is the Sabbath.
Heb 10:26-30 is referring to practiced sin without repenting and turning from

26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,”[g]says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Sin is breaking God’s law 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 as stated our salvation is from sin Mat 1:21, we are not saved in our sins, thats a deception of the other spirit, thats we can disobey God and live, his first lie in the garden thats sadly this lie still deceives so many
 
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we are not saved in our sins, thats a deception of the other spirit, thats we can disobey God and live, his first lie in the garden thats sadly this lie still deceives so many
That is a deception "saved in our sins". It's saved from the sins, that the Spirit of grace already knows before anyone commits the first sin.
 
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Jesus practices what He preaches. It's more than 490 weekly Sabbaths missed.

Matthew 18
21Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother who sins against me? Up to seven times?”

22Jesus answered, “I tell you, not just seven times, but seventy-seven times!
 
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Jesus practices what He preaches. It's more than 490 weekly Sabbaths missed.
Are you claiming Jesus broke the Sabbath? This is what the Pharisees accused Jesus of doing and sinning. Are you siding with those who crucified Jesus? Jesus in His own words said He did not. John 8:46-47 John 15:10 Luke 4:16

There is no scripture that says Jesus broke the Sabbath 490 weeks or even one week. He was accused of breaking the Sabbath accused of not being God, but its not what Jesus said.
Matthew 18
21Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother who sins against me? Up to seven times?”

22Jesus answered, “I tell you, not just seven times, but seventy-seven times!
This is about forgiving sins against each other, I am referring to sin against God. God forgives us every time we repent, but repentance means a change of heart, meaning a change of direction, not doing the same thing.

Pro 28:13 He who covers his sins will not prosper,
But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy.
 
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Are you claiming Jesus broke the Sabbath? This is what the Pharisees accused Jesus of doing and sinning. Are you siding with those who crucified Jesus?

There is no scripture that says Jesus broke the Sabbath 490 weeks.

This is about forgiving sins against each other, I am referring to sin against God. God forgives us every time we repent, but repentance means a change of heart, meaning a change of direction.

Pro 28:13 He who covers his sins will not prosper,
But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy.
Hmm that's quite the twist, from forgive those who sin, break a commandment.

You don't think Jesus practices forgiveness even 490 times if need be?
 
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Hmm that's quite the twist, from forgive those who sin, break a commandment.

You don't think Jesus practices forgiveness even 490 times if need be?
Of course, He knows our heart if one is really trying to overcome or not. If we sin willfully, there remains no more sacrifice Heb 10:26
 
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Pro 28:13 He who covers his sins will not prosper,
But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy.

Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
 
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Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Yes, we have a longsuffering Savior, but there is a limit, just like He did with Israel. He forgave them over and over again, just like He will do for us, but once we have made the decision to stop trying to overcome sin, He will have no choice but to destroy all sin and sinners, its a promise of the bible. Through Christ anything is possible including overcoming sin through His Spirit and keeping His commandments John 14:15-18

I need to run. God bless!
 
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Yes, we have a longsuffering Savior, but there is a limit, just like He did with Israel. He forgave them over and over again, just like He will do for us, but once we have made the decision to stop trying to overcome sin, He will have no choice but to destroy all sin and sinners, its a promise of the bible. Through Christ anything is possible including overcoming sin through His Spirit and keeping His commandments John 14:15-18

I need to run. God bless!
So what you are saying is that there is a time limit. Say at 491 times and the deals off?. He Don't care if you believe in Him or not. Sin to much and its over?.

Romans 8:1

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Regardless of the above you only have so many chances to find a job that doesn't require you to work on a Sabbath.
 
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