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Exodus 20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your workSee the first quote above.
As I said, there are God's words--some of which you cite all the time. But he didn't just say those particular words.Exodus 20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work
Not sure where God said the first day is anything other than a working day. These are Gods Words, not mine.
Like I said previously, I am open to scripture where God declared Sunday the Lords day. Jesus resting and keeping Sabbath in death and rising on Sunday is not God telling us Sunday is Sacred, should be kept Holy and the new day of worship. Until scripture is provided that corrects what God has told us previously, I am going to keep to the scriptures. But I think God telling us He is unchanging is everything I need to know. Hebrews 13:8 God bless.As I said, there are God's words--some of which you cite all the time. But he didn't just say those particular words.
It is pointless for anyone to say that he or she goes by God's words (as though other people do not) before proceeding to pick and choose which of the words of God are going to be acknowledged and which are going to be ignored.
Like I said previously, I am open to scripture where God declared Sunday the Lords day. Jesus resting and keeping Sabbath and rising on Sunday is not God telling us Sunday is Sacred, should be kept Holy and the new day of worship. Until scripture is provided that corrects what God has told us previously, I am going to keep to the scriptures. But I think God telling us He is unchanging is everything I need to know. Hebrews 13:8 God bless.
In a old testament vacuum perhaps, but then that's not all of God's word.You are free to call whatever day you want, but God said Sunday, the first day was not "The Lords day" but a working day. Your disagreement is with God's Words, not mine. God bless.
What a determined effort to uphold your contention! First, Sunday is ruled out as a day of worship because God did not declare Sunday the Lord's Day. Then, Sunday is ruled out because he kept the Jewish regulations (which would mean we should all be Messianic Christians...but you aren't). Then, the Resurrection is "not God telling us Sunday is Sacred," as though the Resurrection is not very significant. Then, we are told that nothing that was part of the Old Covenant can ever be modified (although Christ very explicitly did exactly that in many ways).
And yet, the actual issue as it has been laid out for you repeatedly is never addressed in that post.
Hello LGW, the law showed us that we are sinners...So being under the law is being under the ' power of Sin' both Jews and Gentiles..as it written; All have sinned and fall short of Glory of God... So here is a question for you; if the law gives us the knowledge of Sin, then how long would it takes for you to turn to Christ for the forgiveness of those sins?
Who is WE kemosabe?
[Acts of the Apostles 15:28-29]
"For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials:
that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell."
I have and added many scriptures in the diagrams post you are quoting from did you read them?You really have to read the account in John.
the early church jumped to these conclusions as well. I'm not sure how calling a day of the week the Lord's day incorrectly from its biblical usage can be called sinful except if it's being used to identify the Sabbath (then I understand that). However, hypothetically, if an individual were to separate the Lord's day from the Sabbath what sin is being committed if they incorrectly identity the Lord's day from its biblical counterpart? (which is limited Rev 1:10). it seems to put a lot on a single verse. I missed your scriptural support too, can you repost it?
those are verses about the Sabbath day. I'm referring to the scriptural support that identifies the Lord's day as the Sabbath day. I get the impression you are defending this idea that the Sabbath has not moved to Sunday. If that's so I agree with you and it's scripturally unsupported and there isn't a single place in the bible that suggests that, however, that's not what I'm saying. The Sabbath is the Sabbath, the day of rest, the 7th day. The Lord's day is the day Christ resurrected, it is on the first day of the week, the modern-day of Sunday. Scripture does support the early church worshiping on the first day of the week (and Christ did rise on the first day) also historically the early church worshiped on the first day of the week and it was called the Lord's day, it has always been called that and still is in Greek. Literally, the word for Sunday in Greek is the Lord's day. There is no explicit verse in the bible that says the Lord's day is Sunday but mainly because it's not a common line in the bible. It is mentioned once, and it's the last book written.
I get you have a strong identity with the name of the Lord's day with the Sabbath and so any suggestion that the Lord's day is on a different day feels like an attack on the Sabbath. It's not and that's not what I intend it to be. Historically speaking the Lord's day is without question on Sunday. The single biblical reference is ambiguous but the bible does support the early church valuing Sunday as a day to gather. I accept your desire to call the Sabbath the Lord's day and that it fits that day but this is more of a recent change that is unsupported throughout history. It's a none issue to me if you want to call the Sabbath the Lord's day but it is an issue if you reject the day I call the Lord's day simply because you want it to be the Sabbath. I don't share that identity with the name and I'm not attacking the Sabbath day so I'm confused about what the issue is?
I have and added many scriptures in the post you are quoting from did you read them?
You need to get your facts right here. The early Church kept the Sabbath.
The Lord's Day
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Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.The seventh day Sabbath is the Lord's day, not Sunday.
Mark 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Luke 6:5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
A more appropriate day than what God told us. Really?Because the early leaders of the Christian (Catholic) Church rightly believed it was more appropriate to worship on the day of Jesus Christ's glorious Resurrection, than on the day He layed dead in the tomb.
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