Why teach creationism in public school science classes?

[AV1611VET]

No. The creator would be incorrect. The earth is spherical. A view from space or "his throne" would reveal a spherical earth.

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[Supernaut]

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[Nathan Poe]

Nope -- you can't have it both ways:

isn't it you who is trying to have it both ways -- claiming the Earth is flat and round?

You can't slag the Bible for [allegedly] stating the earth is flat, then turn around and claim the whole universe is technically flat as a pancake.

Except we're not doing that -- you're just getting desperate and trying to change the subject.

 

[AV1611VET]

isn't it you who is trying to have it both ways -- claiming the Earth is flat and round?

Nope

Except we're not doing that --

So the universe is flat, but the earth is a sphere?

Note: Mzungu gave an excellent link reconciling this paradox. Did you read it?

 

[MoonLancer]

Nope -- you can't have it both ways:

You can't slag the Bible for [allegedly] stating the earth is flat, then turn around and claim the whole universe is technically flat as a pancake.

Yes they can. Is the curvature of space flat; yes. Is the earth flat. no

Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it wrong.

is the bible wrong? yes

 

[AV1611VET]

is the bible wrong? yes

Not

The Bible doesn't say the earth is flat -- but I will.

In fact, the earth is both flat and spheroid.

I never thought I'd hear myself say the earth is flat, but my Boolean standards force me to agree with science here.

 

[MoonLancer]

I never thought I'd hear myself say the earth is flat, but my Boolean standards force me to agree with science here.

Your totally trolling. The earth is not flat.

 

[AV1611VET]

Your totally trolling. The earth is not flat.

Is the universe flat?

 

[Skavau]

Not

The Bible doesn't say the earth is flat -- but I will.

In fact, the earth is both flat and spheroid.

I never thought I'd hear myself say the earth is flat, but my Boolean standards force me to agree with science here.

DOUBLETHINK!

 

[mzungu]

Nope

So the universe is flat, but the earth is a sphere?

Note: Mzungu gave an excellent link reconciling this paradox. Did you read it?

AV you misunderstood one thing; Let me explain it to you a little better:

Take a flat sheet of expanded styrofoam; It is flat but is made up of thousands of spheres of expanded styrofoam. So imagine the universe being the flat sheet while all the Galaxies and everything contained within are the spheres.

Or even an ant farm:

 

[MoonLancer]

Is the universe flat?

The curvature of the universe is flat. This does not mean the 3rd dimension does not exist. XYZ still exist.

 

[AV1611VET]

AV you misunderstood one thing; Let me explain it to you a little better:

Mzungu, I pretty-well understand it pretty well.

The point I'm making though, is that the distinction is a semantic distinction.

Notice how the universe can be be considered "flat" -- yet made up of "spheres".

Like a layer of apples laid out -- flat, yet round.

By the same token, i.e. semantics, the earth can be both 4.57 billion years old and ~6000 years old at once.

 

[AV1611VET]

The curvature of the universe is flat. This does not mean the 3rd dimension does not exist. XYZ still exist.

You're preaching to the choir here.

 

[mzungu]

This is what should be taught in schools as history regarding the Bible. It looks at the historical evolution of the Bible (Nicene creed etc.):

Banned from the Bible | Watch Free Documentary Online

 

[AV1611VET]

This is what should be taught in schools as history regarding the Bible.http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/banned-from-the-bible/

That's garbage.

Over here, they kicked the Bible out of school, then dare talk about It.

Thank God, I'm not waiting to hear a school bell, I'm waiting to hear a trumpet!

 

[mzungu]

That's garbage.

Over here, they kicked the Bible out of school, then dare talk about It.

Thank God, I'm not waiting to hear a school bell, I'm waiting to hear a trumpet!

Must you dismiss something without watching it in full? There is ample history in the documantary. Watch it all then pass judgement.

Your faith will not be shaken by this documentary! It even says some of the things you have said which are not contained in the Bible.

You wanted history and this is a historical documentary of how the Christian Bible came to be!

 

[AV1611VET]

You wanted history and this is a historical documentary of how the Christian Bible came to be!

One question, mzungu: Does the documentary conclude: God did it?

If not, I'm not going to waste my time; and if so, then the documentary is preaching to the choir.

I don't need the details -- you do.

ETA: And, by the way, why did you call It the "Christian Bible", and not the more familiar: "AV1611 King James Bible"?

 

[mzungu]

ETA: And, by the way, why did you call It the "Christian Bible", and not the more familiar: "AV1611 King James Bible"?

Because the KJV is centuries newer than the original Hebrew and Greek texts and is only a translation. Show me where does it say in the Bible that we should disregard all other Bibles and use the KJV specifically?

Where does Jesus or God say suchg a thing?



I am interested in Historical truth and facts. I cannot achieve such knowledge if I just disregard everything without studying it.

Here is another documentary that does not question God but gives an account of how the Devil came to be:

The History of the Devil | Watch Free Documentary Online

 

[AV1611VET]

Because the KJV is centuries newer than the original Hebrew and Greek texts and is only a translation.

Only a translation -- LOL.

Show me where does it say in the Bible that we should disregard all other Bibles and use the KJV specifically?

Is this what they call 'special pleading'?

And once again: Did the documentary conclude: God did it?

Or didn't you watch it, yourself?

 

[mzungu]

One question, mzungu: Does the documentary conclude: God did it?

If not, I'm not going to waste my time; and if so, then the documentary is preaching to the choir.

I don't need the details -- you do.

ETA: And, by the way, why did you call It the "Christian Bible", and not the more familiar: "AV1611 King James Bible"?

You are going to like this one and I bet you will watch it in its entirety: Lessons in Hate and Violence | Watch Free Documentary Online